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TopicMLB Offseason Topic
HookedOnSonics
12/13/19 5:26:08 PM
#48
RaidenGarai posted...
At least the Mets have won the World Series at some point in their history (most recently 1986).

You know the last time my Brewers went to the World Series? 1982, before I was born, and they lost. It could be a lot worse, dont forget that.

The Brewers did everything they could to shed payroll so far this offseason, and at historic spending levels for the team last season they still fell in around league average for payroll. They have one of, if not the worst farm system in the league. We have a ton of holes on the team now because they decided to not even try on Grandal and Moustakas because they dont want to spend anything right now.

I know Ive said all of the above before, but I had to repeat it again. It really seems like you dont realize that other teams have it worse than the Mets do, both in terms of history and present outlook.


Also, If you want to talk just going to the WS, sure. But it still ultimately leads to disappointment. We all want to win and many of us haven't experienced it. Getting there is nice, and sure I suppose I'd rather make it and lose than not make it, but its all minor differences when neither of us have experienced the win.

Also get out of here if you think you can argue present value the Mets have it better- No way. Maybe in 5 years after the Wilpons are gone (assuming they are). Your team actually went out and showed you it cared. It made the team good. It hasn't come to fruition but chance hasn't been on your side. Your future/present is better when you actually are making winning moves like when you got Yelich and Cain and made your team great for the next many years.

Farm system, we have one of the worst so nothing there either.

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TopicMLB Offseason Topic
HookedOnSonics
12/13/19 5:11:52 PM
#46
GeneralKenobi85 posted...
I still don't buy that. Earlier today even I saw that the Mets are apparently interested in Hader. I can't see them getting Hader though, especially because their last trade for an "elite" reliever backfired horribly. But I'm guessing Brodie will add some other cheap relievers. He just won't go after guys he probably should be, like Betances.

But if they literally add nobody except Brad Brach, you're right it's an awful look.

Hey we'll see. They also did add Chasen Shreve, but I'm not counting that now because they need at least one "solid" reliever signing. Betances, maybe but risky. McHugh , Will Harris, Cishek, McHugh are like the other best options...

And actually on that note I have a new story! Apparently the mets have a greivence against Cespedes stemming to his "stepping in a hole on his ranch" injury from last year, and they recouped money from his salary last year (that did not go into the team, naturally, since they don't careabout winning). and this year his salary will be "signifcantly reduced", and some of the $ will translate into incentive-based.

So that is good news for the Wilpons pockets since obviously that saved $ we know isn't gonna go back into the team since the insurance $ doesn't. Funny how they waited until all the big names signed with other teams, and they signed from the bargain bin already to announce this.

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TopicMLB Offseason Topic
HookedOnSonics
12/13/19 5:05:40 PM
#45
RaidenGarai posted...
At least the Mets have won the World Series at some point in their history (most recently 1986).

You know the last time my Brewers went to the World Series? 1982, before I was born, and they lost. It could be a lot worse, dont forget that.

The Brewers did everything they could to shed payroll so far this offseason, and at historic spending levels for the team last season they still fell in around league average for payroll. They have one of, if not the worst farm system in the league. We have a ton of holes on the team now because they decided to not even try on Grandal and Moustakas because they dont want to spend anything right now.

I know Ive said all of the above before, but I had to repeat it again. It really seems like you dont realize that other teams have it worse than the Mets do, both in terms of history and present outlook.

So? I don't get to share in any of the joy or experiences of them winning in 1986 because I wasn't alive for it. 1986, 1982, it's still "never in my lifetime" and its never in yours as well, unless you're a little older than me. If you were alive for the Mets winning then fine I will concede that point. From my point of view, and for contemporaries close to my age, all that matters is if we have experienced that team winning or not.

Until 2016 for example, a 30-year old Cubs fan and a Mets fan suffered the same amount when it came to not winning a championship.

I've said this before a thousand times too so don't try to play that history/ "could be a lot worse" card on me. No, it could not.


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