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TopicI just executed a mouse
Rasmoh
12/06/19 11:49:51 PM
#5
If you love mice, why do you have glue traps laying around?

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TopicMurderer sues parents of victim
Rasmoh
12/06/19 2:19:06 PM
#93
Revelation34 posted...
They decided stalking black people is perfectly okay.

Even the black juror involved? Interesting.

I'm beginning to think you're deliberately misrepresenting a neighborhood watch captain following a suspected criminal to push your agenda.

Considering that you think it's acceptable to beat someone to death because you suspect they might have racially profiled someone, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

EvilMegas posted...
the jury isn't infallible.

Neither are the infinite internet crime scene investigators who think Zimmerman is a murderer despite all evidence to the contrary.

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TopicDogs Vs Cats
Rasmoh
12/06/19 4:12:11 AM
#16
Gaawa_chan posted...
I live with five cats atm, rescues no one else wanted. We have too many of them, but it seems wrong to re-home them

I know the feeling, I have 3 cats(had 4 but one passed about a month or so ago) and it's pretty tough sometimes. Hard not to love them though.

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TopicMurderer sues parents of victim
Rasmoh
12/06/19 4:07:27 AM
#74
Gaawa_chan posted...
Zimmerman's decision to stalk and approach Martin when he was given clear instructions not to do so is a clear indicator that he was out for blood/itching for a fight.

Being told not to by a dispatcher doesn't mean anything, they have no authority.

Confronting someone you suspect to be a burglar doesn't mean that you are out for blood. It's something Zimmerman was fully within his rights to do, even if it may not have been the wisest decision. Trayvon, however, was not within his rights to mount Zimmerman and start pummeling him.

It's funny that you mention manslaughter, because the charge was included in what Zimmerman was facing and they couldn't even get him on that.

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TopicMurderer sues parents of victim
Rasmoh
12/06/19 3:51:55 AM
#71
There are still people that think Zimmerman is a murderer because he shot a guy who had mounted him and was beating the shit out of him? Was he supposed to just let Trayvon beat him to death?

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TopicCompany is HEARTBROKEN people think this AD is SEXIST and LOST 1 BILLION! Is it
Rasmoh
12/05/19 1:28:11 AM
#11
I've seen this commercial multiple times. It's not offensive in the slightest, but I did find the premise stupid and overly dramatic. All of the Peloton commercials are pretty cringe-worthy, to be honest.

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TopicI Back to the Future...
Rasmoh
11/01/19 12:47:16 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
As the photograph is fading how did Marty's sister exist as 2 legs without a connecting body, and later just a pair of shoes?

Both the photograph and Marty's memory are forms of storing information. If the photograph was changing to fit the new timeline why didn't Marty's memory of his siblings fade along with the photograph of them?

Why do George and Lorraine wait until their 3rd child to name one in honor of the person that helped get them together?

In part 2 Doc says if they go to 2015 again it will be a different 2015. So why was Biff able to return the Delorian to the same timeline he left from, after his actions in 1955 created a new timeline in which Doc never built it?

Marty traveled to 11/5/1955 and stayed until 11/12. Future Biff travels to 11/12/1955 and returns the same day. Marty had 7 days before the timeline changes reach his departure date in 1985. Why don't Biff's timeline changes take 14 days to propagate to 2015?

What happened to the original Jennifer when the timeline she was left in got overwritten after Marty burned the almanac?


Yes.
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TopicAmber Guyger has immediately APPEALED her 10 year MURDER CONVICTION ALREADY!!!
Rasmoh
10/26/19 1:08:54 AM
#92
LinkPizza posted...
No. When did I say it had to be successful. All I said was if they waste time. But that doesnt mean it has to be successful. And as I said, its not punishment for questioning the state. Its punishment for wasting time. Its like you arent reading at all. If it was punishment for questioning the state, then it wouldnt matter if they wasted time or were successful. It would be punishing anyone who appealed. But I said only if time is wasted. It there is evidence overlooked, that doesnt really seem like wasted time. Or if there is new evidence. Or something that proves that something was unfair. Or really anything. In the end, its not up to me to decide what counts as wasted time. But its punishment for that. If you dont understand that, I dont know what to tell you. But its obviously not punishment for questioning the state or that would mean to punish anyone who appeals at all. And I didnt say that. Only when time is wasted. And even then, the judge or whoever doesnt have to punish them.


Ultimately, you are looking to punish anyone who is unsuccessful in appealing a case. It's interesting that you went from jailing people for appealing to maybe making people take a class for appealing though after a lengthy review to determine whether or not the appeal was a "waste of time"(which is something the appellant can't possibly know) though. Did you realize just how fascist your idea was?
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TopicAmber Guyger has immediately APPEALED her 10 year MURDER CONVICTION ALREADY!!!
Rasmoh
10/26/19 12:19:36 AM
#90
LinkPizza posted...
People arent getting punished for questioning the state


They absolutely are in your scenario though. You are proposing a punishment for being unsuccessful in an appeal. I feel like I'm being trolled at this point.
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TopicAmber Guyger has immediately APPEALED her 10 year MURDER CONVICTION ALREADY!!!
Rasmoh
10/25/19 5:40:20 PM
#88
LinkPizza posted...
Which is why not all of them will take it...


Then you will need different guards to teach the classes because they can't teach the classes and supervise the inmates at the same time.

LinkPizza posted...
No. Its like youre not listening at all.


I am, you're just being either disingenuous or deliberately obtuse. Having a potential punishment for unsuccessfully appealing a criminal case is punishing someone for questioning the State.
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TopicAmber Guyger has immediately APPEALED her 10 year MURDER CONVICTION ALREADY!!!
Rasmoh
10/25/19 4:47:27 PM
#85
LinkPizza posted...
Dont they have guards who already watch the prisoners. They can teach the class while watching the prisoners theyre teaching.


That doesn't work because the not all prisoners are prisoners being forced to take a class as retaliation for exercising their rights.

LinkPizza posted...
Who said I was? I wouldnt be the one making the decisions. It would be up to the people dealing with the prisoners.


By virtue of you putting forth the argument that people should be punished for appealing, you are.

LinkPizza posted...
And if they found out the trial was fair, and feels it was a waste of time, they could deal with it appropriately. Like if they found there was no reason to appeal at all or something.


That's not how the appellate process works though. Appeals are literally a request for another party to review the case. There doesn't need to be a specific reason set forth because there could be things that the parties involved in trying and defending the case missed. An appeal can literally just be the party appealing saying "we want this looked over by a neutral party to make everything that happened was appropriate." They are a prime example of the numerous checks and balances in our system. Again, you are proposing to punish people for questioning the State's decision.
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TopicAmber Guyger has immediately APPEALED her 10 year MURDER CONVICTION ALREADY!!!
Rasmoh
10/25/19 2:53:07 PM
#81
LinkPizza posted...
The guards. They make us do training all the time by giving us the material. It even has examples...


So these guards are going to take on the duty of teaching hours long classes on top of their current responsibilities? How is that going to work without either dishing out raises or hiring more staff?

LinkPizza posted...
It is when you are wasting time, though.


And why are you qualified to determine what is a waste of time? What is a waste of time to you is a chance at freedom to the appelant.

LinkPizza posted...
Basically, it doesnt seem like theres any reason for an appeal already...


New evidence isn't the only reason to appeal. You saying that the trial was fair doesn't actually make it so, that's the job of the appellate court to decide. That's literally the purpose of the appellate process.
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TopicAmber Guyger has immediately APPEALED her 10 year MURDER CONVICTION ALREADY!!!
Rasmoh
10/25/19 1:14:08 PM
#78
LinkPizza posted...
You give the materials. They dont need to actually learn anything I depth. They need to read from the materials.


"They" being the prisoners? Or the guards?

LinkPizza posted...
The punishment isnt for questioning the state. Its for wasting time and resources.


It is de facto for questioning the state because exercising your rights typically isn't considered wasting time and resources to people who aren't fascists like yourself.
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Rasmoh
10/25/19 12:15:10 PM
#76
LinkPizza posted...
It would cost that much. Anybody can teach it. Including the people that are already there and have to watch the prisoners.


Don't think it's that easy to just make prison guards teach classes on top of their existing job duties. It will cost extra in some way to teach these classes.

LinkPizza posted...
I dont think punishment for prisoners is bad.


Their prison sentence is their punishment, why do they need to be punished further for questioning the State?
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Rasmoh
10/25/19 3:01:05 AM
#74
LinkPizza posted...
So, what you think doesnt matter. Nor will anything you say change my mind. But it can stop people from constantly wasting time. And can learn something, as well.


I'm failing to see how forcing people to take a class as retaliation for daring to question the state is an effective deterrent. It won't stop anyone from doing so and it's a waste of time and it takes more resources to boot.

I like how you admitted that you've decided to dig your head into the sand though. I also like how you shifted from holding people in prison in retaliation for appealing to making them take an inconsequential class for appealing. Perhaps even you realized that punishing people for questioning the State is a bit tyrannical?
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TopicDallas Police says Amber Guyger Witness was KILLED over WEED!! Do u trust them?
Rasmoh
10/25/19 2:57:25 AM
#5
EvilMegas posted...
They drove out of state to buy weed? This ain't 1995, no one believes that dumb shit.


People drive out of state to buy dealer quantities of weed all the time.

People also get murdered over weed all the time.

Neither of those scenarios are outlandish or even uncommon.
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Rasmoh
10/25/19 1:05:25 AM
#72
LinkPizza posted...
Thats fine if you see it that way. So, whatever.


I mean, that is literally what you are advocating for.

LinkPizza posted...
Because it helps them to become better members of society. Some of them already do it on their own. But not all.


Forcing people to take classes akin to pointless work meetings that you attest to be tortuous in retaliation for questioning the state makes them better people? Seems like it's not only going to create more waste(since you have to pay people to teach these "classes"), but it won't deter anyone from filing an appeal early.
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Rasmoh
10/25/19 12:57:39 AM
#70
LinkPizza posted...
Sure.


Rad. LinkPizza thinks questioning the state should be a punishable offense. Good to know.

LinkPizza posted...
My punishment would be to make them take a class. And if they are already taking a class, to get a job (or work extra hours doing the job). Or taking a class. But not like the college course ones if they are already taking one. But like those stupid briefings we get at work. Those can be hours long. And they have to take a test at the end. And have to score high enough to pass. If they dont, theyll have to take the class again. Those classes are almost torture, tbh...


How does this cut down on waste at all?
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TopicMelissa McCarthy is spotted in her SUPERHERO COSTUME and starts FILMING now!!!
Rasmoh
10/25/19 12:55:38 AM
#5
Who needs trolls when the "humor" of a Melissa McCarthy is shitty enough on it's own?
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Rasmoh
10/25/19 12:51:28 AM
#68
LinkPizza posted...
Yeah. There can be penalties. But those penalties dont have to be jail time. Thats what Im talking about.


So then you believe someone exercising their right to question the State should be subject to punishment for doing so, is that correct?
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Rasmoh
10/25/19 12:00:59 AM
#66
LinkPizza posted...
When did I say that?


LinkPizza posted...
Like I said, just add that there can be penalties for going for appeals

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Rasmoh
10/24/19 7:28:17 PM
#61
LinkPizza posted...
Its a consequence. If you want to call all consequences threats, then do whatever you want. But its a consequence. Sometimes, things have consequences...


So then you believe the consequence of exercising your right to question the State should be jail time, am I understanding that correctly?
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Rasmoh
10/24/19 7:21:26 PM
#59
LinkPizza posted...
Because actions have consequences.


That doesn't mean it's not a threat. There's also a severely tyrannical element to the notion that there should be punishment for questioning the State.

Smarkil posted...
Freedom of rights doesn't mean freedom from consequences


So the consequence of questioning the State should be jail?
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Rasmoh
10/24/19 5:35:33 PM
#54
LinkPizza posted...
Rasmoh posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it.


Fundamentally, you are still saying that to someone. So again, there's a level of threat involved to the affected people.

Its not a threat. Its a possible consequence.


Threat:

a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

"If you do this, there could be negative consequences for you."

How is that not a threat, particularly in the context of exercising one's rights?
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Rasmoh
10/24/19 5:31:28 PM
#52
LinkPizza posted...
Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it.


Fundamentally, you are still saying that to someone. So again, there's a level of threat involved to the affected people.
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Rasmoh
10/24/19 5:19:25 PM
#50
LinkPizza posted...
I didnt say threaten them, either. So, it does sound like youre putting words in my mouth.


"If you don't wait to exercise your rights, you might be punished."

How is that not a threat?
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Rasmoh
10/24/19 4:44:40 PM
#48
LinkPizza posted...
Again, I didnt say that. But you sure like putting words into my mouth. I said theres a possibility of a penalty. And not always. Only sometimes. And even with the possibility, it doesnt always have to happen.


I'm not putting words in your mouth, you are the one proposing that we threaten certain people with punishment for exercising their rights within a certain timeframe. What you are proposing is saying "in some cases there may or may not be a potential punishment that may or may not be enacted upon an individual who doesn't wait to exercise their rights". It's obviously threatening and needlessly convoluted. It creates waste by adding an additional lengthy legal process to precede an already lengthy legal process.
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Rasmoh
10/24/19 4:01:51 PM
#45
LinkPizza posted...
I still dont see how Im being disingenuous


You don't see how "you're not being punished, you just have to wait to exercise your rights or you'll be punished!" is disingenuous?

LinkPizza posted...
I said that in certain cases, they can carry certain penalties. It doesnt mean they have to. And even if it does carry penalties, it doesnt mean they have to act on them. But it should help to mitigate waste...


So basically your solution is to introduce a different extremely convoluted process that is going to be just as prone to waste, if not more?
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Rasmoh
10/24/19 3:21:55 PM
#43
LinkPizza posted...
Im not being disingenuous.


You absolutely are though. You are specifically saying that people should be punished for exercising their rights if they don't wait a certain amount of time to do so. That's restrictive on both ends.

HornedLion posted...
LinkPizza, how bout this...

You can appeal BUT... from the time the appeal is filed to when its concluded, your current sentence is frozen.

Its better than what we have and not bad enough to have folk cry about criminals rights being trampled.


Considering how long appeals take, you might as well just advocate for the removal of the appeals process.

And again, I'm all for taking away the rights of criminals, I just ask that you folks join me in being honest about it.
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Rasmoh
10/24/19 12:25:52 PM
#39
LinkPizza posted...
So, youre not reading what I said?


I am, you're just being disingenuous as you sit here and pretend you're not looking to discourage people from exercising their rights via veiled threats.

LinkPizza posted...
And again, not restricting rights...


Please explain to me how making people wait to exercise their rights under threat of penalty isn't restrictive.
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Rasmoh
10/24/19 2:35:25 AM
#35
LinkPizza posted...
Like maybe waiting a couple months in prison instead of immediately being able to appeal.


So then you are restricting their rights. "You have to wait x amount of time to exercise your rights" is restrictive, by definition.

LinkPizza posted...
And as I said, its not for all cases.


By justice system standards, it kind of has to be. Otherwise, you're restricting their rights.

LinkPizza posted...
And would save time and money.


I'm all for saving time and money, but you're going to have to restrict rights to do so in the justice system.
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10/24/19 2:15:49 AM
#32
LinkPizza posted...
Adding that there can be a consequence in certain cases isnt taking away all rights.


"If you exercise your rights but the reason is good enough, you should be punished."? Is that somehow not a method to reduce one's rights? Do you not see how this could discourage potentially innocent people from filing appeals?
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10/24/19 2:10:59 AM
#30
LinkPizza posted...
No. Like I said, just add that there can be penalties for going for appeals.


Seems like saying "we should punish people for exercising their rights or at least make them jump through a bunch of hoops to exercise them" is advocating for reducing their rights to me.

And don't get me wrong, I'm all for restricting the rights of criminals, it just seems like you are too while pretending not to be.
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10/24/19 2:04:58 AM
#28
LinkPizza posted...
Yeah. So maybe there should be something in place to limit that waste of time...

Again, it doesnt have to be all, or even a lot, of them. But limiting them would be nice. And less costly...


So are you saying we should take measures to reduce the rights of convicted criminals?
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10/24/19 1:57:48 AM
#26
LinkPizza posted...
It really does feel like a waste in this situation.


99% of the justice system involves huge amounts of waste. 99% of appeals are a waste.
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10/24/19 1:54:57 AM
#24
HornedLion posted...
Homeboy, thats how it works.


The rest of your post can be safely ignored because appeals are also "how it works", but here goes.

You also don't need new evidence to appeal. Also, going to trial, getting found guilty, and getting sentenced doesn't mean that it all took place fairly and appropriately. Appeals exist for that very reason.
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10/24/19 1:29:29 AM
#21
LinkPizza posted...
I wish I could see what's going on in her head


"I don't want to be in prison."
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10/24/19 1:18:13 AM
#19
PK_Spam posted...
How can you be more guilty than her? Someone who absolutely did it.


Perhaps the wording was poor. Maybe "people with much more damning evidence against them" would be a more accurate phrase.
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10/24/19 1:11:44 AM
#17
LinkPizza posted...
Like, I don't believe she did it accidentally. But Idk. But I wish I could see if she's actually replaying it and it's a nightmare for her. Or if she's just thinking, I "I thought I'd get away with it. Maybe I can get this appeal. Time to start crying again." Or something...


Appealing a criminal case is extremely standard, there's likely not some sinister ulterior motive. She's probably just hoping for a chance that there's something that could reduce her sentence or get her a new trial.

People definitively more guilty than her appeal cases all the time. Hell, even people who actually plea to their cases appeal them.
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Rasmoh
10/24/19 12:46:02 AM
#16
PK_Spam posted...
She got off lightly after ending a mans life for her own stupidity and racism, and yes, it makes me really fucking angry.


Ten years is a little light, I would agree, but overall it's a reasonable sentence when you consider all factors that go into it.

Your appeal idea was still stupid though.
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10/24/19 12:24:57 AM
#12
PK_Spam posted...
so we need to think about her little feefees


Nah, you just need to think about not saying dumb shit regarding revamping the justice system to satiate your bloodlust.
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10/24/19 12:13:46 AM
#9
HornedLion posted...
Would be nice if in appeals court they could actually extend the original sentence.


Yeah, we definitely should encourage the system to punish people for trying to make sure their case was tried properly and they were sentenced fairly.
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TopicPoor one out for all the PotDers we lost
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10/07/19 1:08:21 AM
#29
Clench281 posted...
)O(


The ultimate throwback, damn.
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TopicUniv of Kansas APOLOGIZES for this EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE EVENT!! Are u offended???
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10/06/19 6:36:11 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
- Thinking sexual-themed content is inappropriate for college students


This was my thought. At first I thought that this happened at an elementary school or something and would have understood the outrage. But college? Get real.
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TopicWhite House to deny visas to those who can't prove they can pay for health care.
Rasmoh
10/05/19 9:45:52 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
When you turn people away because they're not the clientele you're looking for, that's just wrong.


I disagree. We have plenty of people, I don't think it's too much to ask that if you are going to move here, you are able to contribute and pay for things yourself. It makes no sense to bring in people who need welfare.

Mead posted...
Because its a fundamentally American viewpoint

A better question might be why nationalists like yourself think such a philosophy should be disregarded. It shows a disturbing amount of historical ignorance.


"If you come here and work hard you can carve out a good life for yourself" is fundamentally American. "Anyone and everyone should come here and have the US Government should pay for everything they need!" has never been fundamentally American.

There's no reason to pay any actual heed to it. It's a poem written by a poet, rife with idealistic symbolism. It's nice, but not reflective of reality.
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TopicWhite House to deny visas to those who can't prove they can pay for health care.
Rasmoh
10/05/19 7:49:02 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,


Why do people think this poem has any relevance to how immigration policy should be dictated?
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TopicAnyways, is Trump finally finished?
Rasmoh
09/26/19 5:58:08 PM
#75
Doubt it, I'll believe it when I see it.
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TopicDo you guys have any movie pet peeves?
Rasmoh
09/26/19 10:44:59 AM
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RedPixel posted...
Muscles posted...
Love conquers all is a bullshit message

Always thought this was really silly in Harry Potter, despite the prophecy that foretold him as the boy who would live. Not sure the spoiler tag is necessary, but like wtf Harry survives because his parents loved him so much? So I guess other Voldemort victims weren't as loved as Harry was by his parents in the books? What a special snowflake.


Harry survived because Lily was given the opportunity to survive and chose to die to protect Harry, which invoked some ancient form of magic. Voldemort typically just killed anyone and everyone, so they likely weren't given that choice.
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Topic20 y/o Blonde Ohio Girl ACQUITTED of BURNING HER BABY is caught PARTY HARDYING!
Rasmoh
09/26/19 2:56:44 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Possibly manslaughter.


Can't secure a manslaughter conviction for the exact same reason though.

streamofthesky posted...
If not that, definitely obstruction of justice and other related charges that could put her in jail for years.


Obstruction of justice would require proof that she did it so that she wouldn't be caught. It kind of sounds like you want them to make up charges without evidence though.
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TopicDo you guys have any movie pet peeves?
Rasmoh
09/26/19 2:34:42 AM
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Not sure if this falls under movies or TV, but...

"There's no way I'm doing [silly or outrageous act]! I'll never do [silly or outrageous act]!"
*next scene*
"I can't believe I'm doing [silly or outrageous act]!"
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