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TopicDonald Trump is a shitty president that deserves to be impeached Megathread
Sir_Specter
11/15/19 9:45:53 PM
#215
OrangeDawn posted...
Sir_Specter posted...
Mead posted...
Sir_Specter posted...
But beyond that, removing him at the tail end of his term, if they even can, is pretty impotent.


Except that he is abusing his position for personal gain in the next election. So removing him is actually pretty important.

Read the whole post, please. "I understand that he HAS to be impeached to set precedent that presidents must be held accountable for this kind of thing." I agree that impeaching him is important. That's why they should have tried sooner, but Pelosi and Schumer are cowards who don't know what direction the party is moving in.

OrangeDawn posted...
And that, you know, it's their fucking duty to impeach him if he's not going to hold himself accountable after doing illegal things. Anyone with a brain knows he's not going to get removed but impeaching him so that there are trials and more of the shady shit comes to light benefits every american citizen

You too. Read the whole post. Don't cherry pick. You're arguing with someone who agrees with you.

I don't think his Ukrainian opposition research is gonna do him any good in the next election. I think he's fucked. But hey, the democrats could botch it again and run Biden or something.

I disagree. The Ukraine stuff is the perfect thing to impeach him over. Polling even shows its much less divisive then any other dumb thing he did. They couldn't do anything until Jan 1, 2019 anyway since they needed a house majority. I agree impeachment was always going to be an important issue for democrats since they talked about it so much before the midterms but the issue they chose to pin him on was definitely just as important.

Well I also disagree with your assessment. Especially because it's very similar to the whole Russian debacle, the key difference being that he wasn't president at the time, but he was still openly inviting a hostile foreign power to meddle in our election, which they then did. I don't think waiting a little for more public opinion to shift excuses all of the shit they let him get away with. Especially now that impeachment hearings have started and we're seeing public opinion shift as they go on and more comes out. I think the same shift would have happened if they had started them sooner. But we're both speculating here so it's hard to say who's right about that one. That's my take though.

Mead posted...
Sir_Specter posted...
Read the whole post


Make me

You're so cool, dude. What a rebel
TopicDonald Trump is a shitty president that deserves to be impeached Megathread
Sir_Specter
11/15/19 9:18:55 PM
#212
Mead posted...
Sir_Specter posted...
But beyond that, removing him at the tail end of his term, if they even can, is pretty impotent.


Except that he is abusing his position for personal gain in the next election. So removing him is actually pretty important.

Read the whole post, please. "I understand that he HAS to be impeached to set precedent that presidents must be held accountable for this kind of thing." I agree that impeaching him is important. That's why they should have tried sooner, but Pelosi and Schumer are cowards who don't know what direction the party is moving in.

OrangeDawn posted...
And that, you know, it's their fucking duty to impeach him if he's not going to hold himself accountable after doing illegal things. Anyone with a brain knows he's not going to get removed but impeaching him so that there are trials and more of the shady shit comes to light benefits every american citizen

You too. Read the whole post. Don't cherry pick. You're arguing with someone who agrees with you.

I don't think his Ukrainian opposition research is gonna do him any good in the next election. I think he's fucked. But hey, the democrats could botch it again and run Biden or something.
TopicDonald Trump is a shitty president that deserves to be impeached Megathread
Sir_Specter
11/15/19 9:15:04 PM
#210
TyVulpine posted...
The reason the impeachment hearings took so long to start is because Democrats wanted to ensure that they wouldnt be facing a backlash in the 2020 elections. They didnt want to enrage Trumps base in a way that would cost Democrats the House again and possibly worse if their impeachment attempt failed miserably (Trump winning a second term) But the way its going now, they have Trump by the balls and he keeps digging himself deeper into a hole.

And in the meantime, they allowed him to pass a number of terrible measures like getting funding for the wall, stripping various environmental protection laws including gutting the endangered species act, and most damning for the Democrats, he passed tax reform that set small cuts for middle class families which are set to expire in, I think it was 2021, alongside massive cuts for corporations that aren't set to expire. It was a calculated move by people smarter than Trump so that when 2021 rolls around, they can say "See? President Democrat is raising your taxes now because they can't extend these deficit-raising cuts on your family! The democrats want to take all your money!"

They had enough evidence with Russia. They had enough evidence when he fired Comey. They dragged their feet and dug themselves into a hole and it cost the country many millions of dollars spent on aiding the rich and building a useless wall.

Remember when the Mueller report was supposed to have Trump "by the balls?" I remember. I didn't believe it for a second. The democrats are allergic to taking action.
TopicDonald Trump is a shitty president that deserves to be impeached Megathread
Sir_Specter
11/15/19 7:17:37 PM
#207
TyVulpine posted...
Sir_Specter posted...
HornedLion posted...
streamofthesky posted...
HornedLion posted...
OMFG!!! The GOPs came out swinging attacking Schiff about the whistleblower, and Swalwell just asked that Trumps threats towards the whistleblower and talking about how they handled thing back in the old days to be put into the record.

THIS SHIT IS FUCKING CRAZY!

The weak, easy-to-push-around Dems have left the building! Now entering the no-shit-taking-hard-hitting Dems.

Its like Clark Kent just jumped into a fucking phone booth with the closest kryptonite is 100,000,000 light years away!!!!!

IM MAKING POPCORN FOR THE NEXT HEARING!

Honestly, I won't believe that the Democrats have grown a spine until the next Democratic president is sworn in on 2021 and refuses to bow to the urges from the craven and the compromised to pardon Trump and spare him from jail, "for the sake of national unity, and to end this hyper polarized era"

You KNOW that shit is coming. GWB fucking tortured people and never even stood trial b/c the Dems didn't want to be "dividers." Only Republicans can be that. Dems are supposed to just let the Reps get away with shit and move on, "be the bigger man."
Hell, I bet the second that there's a Dem president and Dem majority Senate, the Republicans will say we need to restore the filibuster, too.


You speak the truth.

Yeah that's pretty much what I expect too. There's precedent for it and the dems sure are fucking spineless.

And yet whos holding impeachment hearings and whos trying to obstruct?

It took them a ridiculous amount of time to start impeachment hearings in no small part because Nancy Pelosi is a "centrist" (read: "conservative in blue") idiot and she and others like her were holding them back.

There was plenty of material to work with before the Ukraine call.

Look I'm not defending republican obstructionism here. Those guys are like a fucking cult. I'm saying that the democrats have wildly mismanaged their response to Trump and made themselves look painfully inept and weak. It began right from the inception of this whole mess when they threw their populist candidate under the bus in favor of Hillary "It's my fucking turn!" Clinton. They ran one of the highest profile Washington insiders against a man who's campaign was largely about how washington insiders are ruining the country, drain the swamp, etc. Doesn't matter that he lied about it. He sold that message and Clinton couldn't combat it.

Trump's term is practically over. I understand that he HAS to be impeached to set precedent that presidents must be held accountable for this kind of thing. But beyond that, removing him at the tail end of his term, if they even can, is pretty impotent.

Edit: Is that sig an Aquabats reference?
TopicDonald Trump is a shitty president that deserves to be impeached Megathread
Sir_Specter
11/15/19 6:48:10 PM
#204
HornedLion posted...
streamofthesky posted...
HornedLion posted...
OMFG!!! The GOPs came out swinging attacking Schiff about the whistleblower, and Swalwell just asked that Trumps threats towards the whistleblower and talking about how they handled thing back in the old days to be put into the record.

THIS SHIT IS FUCKING CRAZY!

The weak, easy-to-push-around Dems have left the building! Now entering the no-shit-taking-hard-hitting Dems.

Its like Clark Kent just jumped into a fucking phone booth with the closest kryptonite is 100,000,000 light years away!!!!!

IM MAKING POPCORN FOR THE NEXT HEARING!

Honestly, I won't believe that the Democrats have grown a spine until the next Democratic president is sworn in on 2021 and refuses to bow to the urges from the craven and the compromised to pardon Trump and spare him from jail, "for the sake of national unity, and to end this hyper polarized era"

You KNOW that shit is coming. GWB fucking tortured people and never even stood trial b/c the Dems didn't want to be "dividers." Only Republicans can be that. Dems are supposed to just let the Reps get away with shit and move on, "be the bigger man."
Hell, I bet the second that there's a Dem president and Dem majority Senate, the Republicans will say we need to restore the filibuster, too.


You speak the truth.

Yeah that's pretty much what I expect too. There's precedent for it and the dems sure are fucking spineless.
TopicDonald Trump is a shitty president that deserves to be impeached Megathread
Sir_Specter
11/15/19 3:21:17 PM
#197
streamofthesky posted...
Mad_Max posted...
Roger Stone found guilty:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/15/us/politics/roger-stone-trial-guilty.html

One thing I've noticed w/ all the Nixon-like (Watergate) and Reagan-like (Iran-Contra) Trump scandals and crimes, is not only is it a lot like those two, but it seems like a lot of Nixon/Reagan people are involved in these modern scandals.
Whether Oliver Stone or that guy in charge of the NRA that's now embroiled in a Russian money scandal, etc...

Which makes me wonder....why the fuck did all these dudes get off so lightly back then? Seems like every single one of them remained a degenerate and went on to destroy this country further. But all of them either got no jail time or very little of it, and were free to keep on doing more of the same.
Hopefully the same mistakes aren't repeated this time w/ Trump's scandals. lock these creeps away for a long time!

Now you're asking the right questions. You probably already know the answer though. Our representational republic is a facade for oligarchy. We're given largely meaningless choices to quibble over while the heads of the party dictate the actual policy for their respective figureheads to follow. Simply put, those people are still there BECAUSE they're shady Washington insiders, not in spite of it.

Trump and Sanders were a rebellion against that since neither was backed by their party. However, Trump only wanted to line his own pockets and build his fame, so his interests largely aligned with the GOP as a whole anyway (since they're wholly concerned with hoarding wealth and using fear mongering about nonsense to hide that fact and keep their base in line) and they fell in behind him despite people like Mitch, Paul Ryan, and Little Lindsey initially having meltdowns about how he'd "be disastrous for the country" due to what they perceived might be a lack of control over him.
Topic[Serious] Why is there a general dislike for Kotaku and its writers?
Sir_Specter
11/15/19 3:04:41 PM
#57
Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...
But you could argue that the rot was already starting 20 years ago when magazines under the Ziff-Davis media company started to hire college grad journalism majors to write their magazines, and not actual gamers. In the early days of EGM (and many other gaming magazines) you had to pass a gaming aptitude test. Writing was second to that. You had to show that you were a gamer, and knew what you were talking about.


Do you have a source handy about the gaming aptitude thing? Not that I'm calling bullshit, just curious about it and what it entailed. It seems like the ideal solution to keep people like modern game reviewers far away from a business they have no right being in.
Topic[Serious] Why is there a general dislike for Kotaku and its writers?
Sir_Specter
11/15/19 12:24:29 PM
#55
Wow lots of butthurt right wing snowflakes here sure are mad that Kotaku invaded their gaming safe space.

I dunno what they're ranting about, but really, gaming "journalism" just sucks across the board. It's made by and for the lowest common denominator. They blindly give inflated scores to every triple A game that comes out (barring unmitigated disasters like Anthem, which they were still overly kind to) after playing about an hour of it at most. They get frustrated and score games lower when they can't figure out how to play them because their workflow demands that they act like kids with ADHD and mash through everything so they can review the game and get to the next one.

The biggest problem is that the profession has no integrity by design. They HAVE to give big-name games certain minimum scores or those companies won't send them early copies anymore and then their reviews come out later than those of the more obedient dogs, costing them click money.
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