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| Topic | Just got a PS4. Rate my library. |
| Zithers 12/29/19 11:28:26 PM #6 | what are the good RPG games don't say the witcher 3 or persona 5 --- |
| Topic | Just got a PS4. Rate my library. |
| Zithers 12/29/19 10:51:57 PM #1 | Bought the bundle that was on sale for the holiday season. Figured I could get two good years out of it before I maybe get a PS5. Horizon: Zero Dawn (came w/) God of War (came w/) The Last of Us (came w/) Doom (online sale for $6) Spider-Man: GOTY (online sale for $20) GTAV ($19 from GameStop) Uncharted 1-3 ($free from GameStop) MLB The Show 19 (free from GameStop) Yakuza 0 ($19 from Gamespot) Apex Legends (free on PS+) Titanfall 2 (free on PS+) My roommate has Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne so I'll get around to those eventually too I guess. Woo! --- |
| Topic | Are MCU movies cinema in your opinion? |
| Zithers 12/17/19 1:25:20 AM #28 | MrNintendo1213 posted... I'm hoping that big wall of dumb pretentiousness is copypasta. Marvel movies definitely have to get made by someone with a vision usually. It's usually a collaboration, like all cinema. the russo bros are the definition of anonymous. they're literally crappy directors poached from television to be bullied by marvel's showrunner. oh wait hold on they did make that one visionary movie before the MCU... what was it called... oh yeah, you me and dupree. LOL! --- |
| Topic | Are MCU movies cinema in your opinion? |
| Zithers 12/16/19 1:49:30 AM #14 | proper definition of cinema Now we finally arrive at the subject of this rant, which is the state of cinema. First of all, is there a difference between cinema and movies? Yeah. The simplest way that I can describe it is that a movie is something you see, and cinema is something thats made. It has nothing to do with the captured medium, it doesnt have anything to do with where the screen is, if its in your bedroom, your iPad, it doesnt even really have to be a movie. It could be a commercial, it could be something on YouTube. Cinema is a specificity of vision. Its an approach in which everything matters. Its the polar opposite of generic or arbitrary and the result is as unique as a signature or a fingerprint. It isnt made by a committee, and it isnt made by a company, and it isnt made by the audience. It means that if this filmmaker didnt do it, it either wouldnt exist at all, or it wouldnt exist in anything like this form. marvel does not find under this umbrella unfortunately --- |
| Topic | Are MCU movies cinema in your opinion? |
| Zithers 12/15/19 8:03:15 PM #12 | |
| Topic | Is Wario A Libertarian |
| Zithers 12/01/19 3:43:01 AM #1 | Is Wario A Libertarian
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| Topic | Trump repeals the Paramount Decree, makes movie studios more powerful |
| Zithers 11/21/19 12:13:54 PM #14 | |
| Topic | Trump repeals the Paramount Decree, makes movie studios more powerful |
| Zithers 11/21/19 1:52:07 AM #13 | Bat178 posted... sondast posted...Duncanwii posted...sondast posted...The first step to making sure the only movies you can see are pro-fascist.I doubt this. How many pro-fascist movies are even made? remember when captain marvel did an air force ad? hell yeah disney making military propaganda owns. also the dude who runs marvel donates to trump and bob iger probably does too! i mean, who do you think was trying to influence this being repealed??? --- |
| Topic | Trump repeals the Paramount Decree, makes movie studios more powerful |
| Zithers 11/21/19 1:06:42 AM #4 | sondast posted... The first step to making sure the only movies you can see are pro-fascist. remember when black panther was about a cia-backed dynastic monarch who illegally stole the throne from the rightful king, who was a former rebel who fought for the oppressed???? --- |
| Topic | Trump repeals the Paramount Decree, makes movie studios more powerful |
| Zithers 11/21/19 12:57:55 AM #1 | Is this good or bad?
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seems like a pretty awful idea to make disney more powerful in the entertainment industry hopefully it doesn't get through the courts!!! scary article to read! --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/19/19 12:14:05 AM #51 | bobbaaay posted... Zithers posted...Good ones, at least, since they hire people who know a thing or two about filmmaking. I was saying that the only "spectacle" movies that are good are the ones with practical fx because they provide weight to the action instead of being lifeless pre-viz creations. I don't know what is considered a shock movie but I don't have anything against horror or any other genre for that matter. I only care about movies being good! --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 11:19:16 PM #47 | fusespliff posted... Zithers posted...fusespliff posted...Zithers posted...fusespliff posted...Nah, I pay to see spectacles in the theater. 99.9% of comedy, drama, thriller, horror,... are better watched in the comfort of my own home. I really don't see the point of spending money to see giant talking heads. It's okay, you can admit that you don't appreciate good cinematography. I mean, you basically are doing that right now. I also don't have any old, jaded men telling me what's art. Weird assumption to make! --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 11:08:55 PM #43 | bobbaaay posted... Zithers posted...Yeah, Martin Scorsese doesn't know how to frame a beautiful image that deserves to be seen on the big screen... can't believe people want to see "spectacle" which is like, almost all green screen and CGI. Not only in the movies but period. That shit is so UGLY. Star Wars and Mission Impossible are the only spectacle movies to get away with it since they do practical stuff whenever possible... also Mad Max and John Wick. Good ones, at least, since they hire people who know a thing or two about filmmaking. --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 11:03:04 PM #40 | fusespliff posted... Zithers posted...fusespliff posted...Nah, I pay to see spectacles in the theater. 99.9% of comedy, drama, thriller, horror,... are better watched in the comfort of my own home. I really don't see the point of spending money to see giant talking heads. Yes, The Irishman uses plenty of CGI, considering they de-age the actors. But they aren't surrounded by fully CGI characters or living within CGI environs like many spectacle movies which, I reiterate, are quite ugly! Meanwhile a movie shot by Rodrigo Prieto or Bob Richardson is often one of the best looking movies of the year and you're gonna watch it half-assed at home while playing around on your phone! --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 10:51:53 PM #36 | Kastrada posted... Zithers posted... We also can't forget about the incredibly violent and psychopathic murderers of --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 10:16:12 PM #35 | Phantom_Nook posted... I thought it wasn't on Netflix yet. It isn't. Hits Netflix on the 27th. --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 10:13:43 PM #33 | metallica846 posted... Zithers posted...Yeah, Martin Scorsese doesn't know how to frame a beautiful image that deserves to be seen on the big screen... can't believe people want to see "spectacle" which is like, almost all green screen and CGI. Not only in the movies but period. That shit is so UGLY. Star Wars and Mission Impossible are the only spectacle movies to get away with it since they do practical stuff whenever possible... also Mad Max and John Wick. Just make the movies 100% animation like The Incredibles, which is by far the best superhero movie, since it isn't hindered by real life. The characters unleash their powers at full strength and it doesn't look out of place since everything is already animated. Because intertwining CGI and live-action is ugly as fuck. Hideous digital garbage. --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 9:52:36 PM #29 | FighterStreet2 posted... honestly gangster/mafia films are all the same. i really couldn't give a shit about any of them If you watch Goodfellas and think the movie is about how cool it is to be in the mob then you aren't very good at watching movies. And The Irishman is the final nail in the coffin to anyone who thinks depiction = endorsement in Scorsese's mob movies, because it is an absolute condemnation of the evil these men do. --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 9:50:55 PM #27 | 008Zulu posted... coh posted...If you've seen one MCU movie you've seen them all. Mean Streets in 74. Then waited sixteen years until he made Goodfellas in 90. Five years later he made Casino. Eleven years after that he made The Departed. Thirteen years later he got The Irishman. Dunno why everyone acts like he makes a ton of gangster movies. He's made more documentaries, actually. It also helps that Goodfellas and The Departed and The Irishman are nothing alike. --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 9:48:01 PM #26 | Purely posted... It's three and a half hours though... do they give you an intermission in the theater? There is no intermission. I managed to not have to pee. Sat in third row and didn't notice anyone from first two rows get up. Guy next to me had to go with about 20 minutes left though. Brutal. Almost made it. --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 9:47:14 PM #25 | fusespliff posted... Nah, I pay to see spectacles in the theater. 99.9% of comedy, drama, thriller, horror,... are better watched in the comfort of my own home. I really don't see the point of spending money to see giant talking heads. Yeah, Martin Scorsese doesn't know how to frame a beautiful image that deserves to be seen on the big screen... can't believe people want to see "spectacle" which is like, almost all green screen and CGI. Not only in the movies but period. That shit is so UGLY. Star Wars and Mission Impossible are the only spectacle movies to get away with it since they do practical stuff whenever possible... also Mad Max and John Wick. --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 7:55:39 PM #8 | |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 3:04:04 AM #5 | R1masher posted... Think people are butthurt cause he shit on marvel, so theyre boycotting your topic Why would anyone be upset about the biggest, most popular movies on the planet not being liked by one filmmaker? Malfunction posted... Well duh. Glad to see we have a champion of the theatrical release in our midst! --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 2:50:00 AM #2 | No one is interested in the newest film by King Marty Scorsese? smh. --- |
| Topic | The Irishman is better than all eleven MCU movies I have seen. |
| Zithers 11/18/19 2:00:56 AM #1 | And is most certainly cinema. Just want to let everyone know this. It is a monumental achievement and a perfect way for Scorsese to sendoff the gangster picture. The final hour was so replete with dread that I felt sick. It was horrifying and ultimately incredibly sad. Lives wasted for nothing. You should see it in a theater if you can! --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/08/19 10:01:40 PM #142 | Not enough people voted in the poll imo --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/07/19 1:48:35 AM #139 | Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Zithers posted...Feline_Heart posted...How are they pushing unique visions out of studios when we only get 3 of them at most per year? There are hundreds of other movies in theaters every year. They all have a chance to succeed. Marvel movies being popular doesnt mean that people cant make the movies they want to make anymore serious question: have you ever seen an arthouse movie? joker also had between a 50-70m budget and probably had the same in advertising. it is also the third iteration of the joker in the past ten years aka "franchise film" and there's already chatter of a sequel (duh). i don't really see how it qualifies. and even if i were to take that as an answer: good job naming *one* outlier. guess nothing is wrong then. keep making boring sequels, spinoffs, and reboots of things over and over and kill off grownup filmmaking unless it is tangientally related to these franchises! --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/06/19 11:46:47 PM #137 | Feline_Heart posted... How are they pushing unique visions out of studios when we only get 3 of them at most per year? There are hundreds of other movies in theaters every year. They all have a chance to succeed. Marvel movies being popular doesnt mean that people cant make the movies they want to make anymore yeah if you read the piece you'd see he was railing against franchise films in general instead of just marvel... also it *is* harder to make your movie and *is* harder to succeed. studios want to make less movies that make more money and take up more screens for longer periods of time. while also figuring out how to boost their streaming services and win the streaming wars. disney has their dirt cheap service coming soon and they just bought up fox and will likely have sold 50% of tickets this year. they're horrifying. furthermore marketing for a movie needs to be, like, minimum $50m to become a success in wide release. how many personal visions do you think get an advertising budget like that? pretty sure us and once upon a time in hollywood are the only movies to qualify for that this year. anyway this obviously squeezes out smaller movies because people become conditioned to only wanting to see big lifeleess cgi spectacle (whether it be marvel, f&f, jurassic park, looks like star wars is losing its personality as well, etc). so smaller movies don't make money at the box office and then... well... you're stuck with big movies. it's like capitalism. does trickle down economics work? no. when the rich get richer the smaller folks are crushed. --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/06/19 11:17:22 PM #135 | bobbaaay posted... Zithers posted...bobbaaay posted...Malfunction posted...bobbaaay posted...He's a wiener for making such a big deal about this, and it's not a good look. i mean i've seen ten or eleven and they are pretty same-y. v anonymously directed. just not interesting to watch. the answer to "so what" is that they are making a lot of money and pushing unique visions out of studios and into the indie/arthouse world where even then directors struggle to get anything financed and showcased. and... you know... if you like movies as much as scorsese does or i do, you get resentful. although scorsese is much more gracious about it than i am. --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/06/19 10:50:55 PM #133 | bobbaaay posted... Malfunction posted...bobbaaay posted...He's a wiener for making such a big deal about this, and it's not a good look. he's saying there's not a unifying artistic vision behind them not sure how anyone who regularly watches movies can disagree with this tbh --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/06/19 9:31:41 PM #131 | |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/06/19 2:55:11 AM #127 | bobbaaay posted... I mean - to relate this to horror, since that's my area of film where I'm most knowledgeable - this absolutely hasn't stopped smaller, lesser known horror directors from getting their films greenlighted and having wide releases in major theaters over the last 10 years. This decade alone had Saulnier go from having to fund Blue Ruin through a kickstarter to Green Room being a major release? Or Ari Aster, who Scorsese even mentioned in that quote, rising to wide audience popularity? Or The VVitch and It Follows, the former being a full-length directorial debut and the latter being a sophmore full length, having wide releases and receiving critical acclaim? jeremy saulnier's latest movie was dumped on netflix. david robert mitchell's latest movie i think spent one week in theaters. robert eggers' newest movie isn't doing well at the box office during its semi wide release... of course the common link for most of the stuff you just mentioned is a24, who is doing great work. but having one tiny distributor up against the major studios doesn't do a lot of good in the grand scheme of things. like half of their movies are VOD. but again i don't really care about genre, nor does scorsese. we're talking plain original, visionary filmmaking. --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/06/19 2:34:48 AM #123 | bobbaaay posted... Zithers posted...bobbaaay posted...This is so dumb. I don't even like MCU movies, or action movies really for that matter -- but I think he sounds like an absolute wiener. I like films all across the gamut of cinema -- from high art, avant-garde films to the sleaziest exploitation and zero budget SOV stuff. well, for one, disney does block booking which means theaters have to agree to screen x shitty movie on y amount of screens if they want to get big popular guaranteed moneymaking z movie. they can force theaters' hands and essentially not allow them to show arthouse, independent, or foreign films that are 'cinema' as cinephiles define it. scorsese himself was bumped from studios and had to slum it with netflix to make the irishman. studios just aren't interested in smaller movies. they want to play it safe. not really sure what's hard to follow here. especially since if you don't live in a major market or college town you don't have easy theater access to other types of movies. --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/06/19 2:26:54 AM #120 | bobbaaay posted... This is so dumb. I don't even like MCU movies, or action movies really for that matter -- but I think he sounds like an absolute wiener. I like films all across the gamut of cinema -- from high art, avant-garde films to the sleaziest exploitation and zero budget SOV stuff. it is, and he talks about that in the piece. did you even read it? i also don't get why everyone brings up star wars, harry potter, etc. he isn't saying the movies aren't cinema because they are expensive or about superheroes. its because they are focus tested to death and lack a unifying vision. again - he talks about this in the article. seriously - did anyone actually read it? --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/06/19 2:12:17 AM #115 | Sphyx posted... If people are given only one kind of thing and endlessly sold only one kind of thing, of course theyre going to want more of that one kind of thing. 5 of the top 10 and 7 of the top 13 highest grossing movies of last year involved superheroes within those top 13 was also a 10th star war, 5th jurassic park movie, a 6th mission impossible movie (which is actually great), and three remakes/reboots (the grinch (the third version of the story), a star is born (the fifth version of the story), and jumanji). sure sounds like a lot of the same fucking thing --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/06/19 1:57:09 AM #112 | Darmik posted... Zithers posted...You can't tell directors apart in the Marvel movies. The movies all look the same and hit the same notes. having only seen black panther: wow, ryan coogler must be horrible at directing --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/05/19 11:51:20 PM #110 | IronMansCarKeys posted... Zithers posted...IronMansCarKeys posted...Dont you dare fucking tell me movies like jurrasic park and Indiana jones are cinema, but winter soldier, black panther, guardians, Iron Man, Civil war etc. arent Spielberg movies are very clearly Spielberg movies tho based on his craft and common themes he revisits. You can't tell directors apart in the Marvel movies. The movies all look the same and hit the same notes. This is what we talk about when we talk about cinema. Where you have a singular vision from an artist instead of something that has to appeal to China and is easily marketable. --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/05/19 3:14:49 PM #104 | Tyranthraxus posted... Zithers posted...You think Roger Moore Bond movies are conspiracy thrillers and not goofy action movies?They're the same type of conspiracy thriller. Not every conspiracy thriller has to be Casablanca. You think Casablanca is a conspiracy thriller? --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/05/19 2:48:00 PM #101 | IronMansCarKeys posted... Dont you dare fucking tell me movies like jurrasic park and Indiana jones are cinema, but winter soldier, black panther, guardians, Iron Man, Civil war etc. arent Imagine thinking MCU has the same level of visual storytelling craft that Spielberg does LOL!!!! --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/05/19 2:45:34 PM #97 | Tyranthraxus posted... Zithers posted...another person who thinks winter soldier is a 70s esque conspiracy thriller lmfao. which 70s conspiracy thrillers have you seen that are like the winter soldier? You think Roger Moore Bond movies are conspiracy thrillers and not goofy action movies? --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/05/19 2:36:48 PM #95 | masterpug53 posted... The crux of his argument seems to be that Marvel movies don't take risks. This may be true in the grander sense, but the franchise's best movies happen to be the ones that took risks that paid off. Guardians of the Galaxy might look like a slam dunk in hindsight, but who would have thought in 2013 that the D-list source material featuring a talking raccoon and sentient tree monster would have turned out to be the one of the best-written and most heartfelt movies in the franchise? The best movie in the franchise imo is still Winter Soldier, and who would have guessed that a 70's-esque spy thriller would fit like a glove into the MCU? Similar case could be made for Thor: Ragnarok and Infinity War. another person who thinks winter soldier is a 70s esque conspiracy thriller lmfao. which 70s conspiracy thrillers have you seen that are like the winter soldier? --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/05/19 1:26:01 AM #55 | turner classic movies, criterion channel, video stores/physical media, and piracy are your friends!!! --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/05/19 12:53:09 AM #53 | ppl really into movies have a secondary definition of cinema. i'm not exactly sure how scorsese describes it - seems a bit wishy washy to me tbh, but i like what steven soderbergh said about it: Now we finally arrive at the subject of this rant, which is the state of cinema. First of all, is there a difference between cinema and movies? Yeah. The simplest way that I can describe it is that a movie is something you see, and cinema is something thats made. It has nothing to do with the captured medium, it doesnt have anything to do with where the screen is, if its in your bedroom, your iPad, it doesnt even really have to be a movie. It could be a commercial, it could be something on YouTube. Cinema is a specificity of vision. Its an approach in which everything matters. Its the polar opposite of generic or arbitrary and the result is as unique as a signature or a fingerprint. It isnt made by a committee, and it isnt made by a company, and it isnt made by the audience. It means that if this filmmaker didnt do it, it either wouldnt exist at all, or it wouldnt exist in anything like this form. --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/04/19 11:59:58 PM #43 | 008Zulu posted... Didn't he work on the Joker movie, does he know what a hypocrite is? I think he was given a producer credit, presumably because Joker borrows heavily from Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy. I assume they're just giving him paycheck so that they don't have to buy the rights to the movies without being sued for plagiarizing. Pure speculation on my part, of course. but he was attached as a producer early on before later having the title in name only. --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/04/19 11:41:26 PM #31 | AlisLandale posted... Its sad that nerds are so fragile that it even came to this. >_> Scorsese worked for scale when he made Silence (the movie also bombed horrifically, obviously, since it was a solemn 3 hour religious drama). He doesn't give a shit about money. He does, however, have an intense passion for cinema. --- |
| Topic | Martin Scorsese pens op-ed for NYT about Marvel not being cinema... |
| Zithers 11/04/19 11:03:28 PM #1 | what do u think - Results (4 votes)
i like calcifying the movie industry!
25% (1 vote)
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my taste will never change! give me all the blockbusters forever!
0% (0 votes)
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marvel movies are passionate works by iconoclastic directors!
0% (0 votes)
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i will challenge my preconceived notions of what a good movie is!
75% (3 votes)
3
here's a few snippets Many of the elements that define cinema as I know it are there in Marvel pictures. Whats not there is revelation, mystery or genuine emotional danger. Nothing is at risk. The pictures are made to satisfy a specific set of demands, and they are designed as variations on a finite number of themes. And if youre going to tell me that its simply a matter of supply and demand and giving the people what they want, Im going to disagree. Its a chicken-and-egg issue. If people are given only one kind of thing and endlessly sold only one kind of thing, of course theyre going to want more of that one kind of thing. Today, that tension is gone, and there are some in the business with absolute indifference to the very question of art and an attitude toward the history of cinema that is both dismissive and proprietary a lethal combination. The situation, sadly, is that we now have two separate fields: Theres worldwide audiovisual entertainment, and theres cinema. They still overlap from time to time, but thats becoming increasingly rare. And I fear that the financial dominance of one is being used to marginalize and even belittle the existence of the other. hoping people can avoid using words such as "jealous" and "out of touch" and "cloud" in the replies! all hail king marty! --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/29/19 2:15:05 PM #32 | we got a petition going yay https://www.change.org/p/distributors-ask-disney-to-release-older-titles-for-repertory-usage?use_react=false also there was a theater in the bay area doing a planet of the apes festival this weekend and it has been canceled since they are fox titles lol so sign the petition everyone! --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/29/19 1:07:06 AM #30 | fathom events confirmed alien will be the last fox movie they screen lol yay disney! --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/27/19 3:22:32 PM #22 | vigorm0rtis posted... I don't go to indie theaters to see that sort of film, so... congrats --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/26/19 4:05:29 AM #19 | |
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