Lurker > dowolf

if people didn't want returners, they would simply not nominate or support them. it seems bizarre to institute a rule that basically says "i don't like how some people approach this contest so i'mma ban what they want to do."

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

you gotta read the other ones.

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

i mean shrug.

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

let's see if i can sneak stuff in under the wire:

VOEZ - Valle De Los Caidos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oeeb-G4iYqY

Darkened Skye - Bone Lands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmxM5_-RO00

Baldr Sky - Pilgrim's Blindness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DknNoHW373M

-Aka- - Desert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t16DzYe5bQI

RAGNAROK Tactics - Zeal continent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaUQhZTXQl0


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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Sorry, just saw this (whoops), but: yes, ff8 is mostly okay. There's a few notable exceptions, such as all in-battle dialog and the big speech at the end of disk 1, but especially compared to anything else from the 1990's, it's a really solid translation.

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Tag for later.

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

could've sworn I checked...

Anywho let's go with Made in Abyss -- Deep in Abyss
https://animethemes.moe/video/MadeInAbyss-OP2.webm

alternative youtube link, but slightly lower quality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e91G8m9uM_0&t=28s

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Hajimari is Cold Steel the 5th yes.

Also spoilers ABOUND in the promotional material for it so, you know. Google at your own risk.

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Tag

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

...they did an official release for the stupid non-canonical Steins;Gate spinoff.

When Chaos;head still has no official release, and Chaos;head Noah has never been translated at all, and nothing Robotics;notes has come out outside of Japanese either.

wtf.

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

(going to note that the link for Tasogare Otome x Amnesia (Choir Jail) isn't the actual opening. I can't find it on Youtube, but here's a link that's from elsewhere:

https://animethemes.moe/video/TasogareOtomeAmnesia-OP1.webm

)

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Hey! Kurt is not no one; he has a decently interesting arc. That puts him leagues ahead of Elliot.

really his biggest sin is having a natural evade stat but a short-range melee attack, which is a complete non-bo.

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

A Certain Magical Index -- ROAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJzF1tu7-dw

Shakugan no Shana -- Light My Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jdkQYTqh9U

Umineko no Naku Koro ni -- One-Winged Bird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCIgS258PA0

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni -- Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgWkIrFQQE0

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex -- Inner Universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1lBZ3urwBU

Re:Creator -- sh0ut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAwbOH794jM

Princess Principal -- The Other Side of the Wall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjqkATvH9M

Promised Neverland -- Touch Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFgEkPF1XTU

Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai -- Spread Wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKwq2HI42l4

Monster -- Grain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msTB5r8nUHU

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

this is nice, but <i>can i still do this and see it in italics.</i>

<b>let me be old, gamefaqs. let me be old in peace</b>

edit: nooooooooooooooooo

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Congrats!
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Mac Arrowny posted...

Is there furigana for that says Aidios every time in Japanese?

Sometimes, not always. But other terms are treated the same way: is occasionally given the furigana for "orbment," but it's just as common to see it without, and in voiced lines it will often be pronounced , douryokuki. I'm generally okay with this for a monotheistic god, just because the word "God" by itself is very weighty in western/Christian culture; there's a strong argument for avoiding that.

xp1337 posted...

...Huh.

You can definitely tell the quality control loosened up later in the game because the mistakes like typos and dropped words and such become more apparent and frequent late in the game but that does seem like a big one.

argh

For localization stuff, we know Brittany left partway through. Probably didn't help.

Though for accuracy outright, who knows.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Angelica is flirty; I didn't deny that. Like in my post I explicitly said that "yes she hits on everyone, but she's always done that." But if people are noting a change in her character, and I can find extreme examples that NISA made up out of whole cloth, and I didn't feel that her character had changed (and I haven't seen people who played the Japanese game who felt that way), then that supports my implied argument that NISA's changes hurt the text.

I dunno. Like I don't want to get into an active fight over the quality of the text, which I realize is kinda contradictory with my actions. But when someone says they're confused by something I wasn't confused by, or hated something that I didn't hate, and I can find reasons for that in the text, it's... frustrating, I guess? *shrug*
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

xp1337 posted...

Basically the most straightforward reading of it is that there's more to the Great Twilight and/or Phantasmal Blaze than has been explained to us but that they heard that has them reluctantly going along regardless of how ridiculous it all seems. I do think that's at least true for Phantasmal Blaze because Campanella was almost guaranteed to be hamming it up and trolling a bit later when he states to Stahlritter/Xeno/Leo that the successful execution of the Phantasmal Blaze plan they've been working towards is the "end of the world." That doesn't square with what we know about Ouroboros. "end of the world" is kinda an endstate and we know Phantasmal Blaze is Part 2 of ?? of the Orpheus Final Plan. So they can't really call ending the world a success because they uh... kinda still have things to do. It makes sense for them to play along for a bit to fully restore the Sept-Terrion but not to go all the way if the world really would end. Specifically if they're after Sept-Terrion there are still 3 they haven't made a move on or mentioned. Not to mention Roselia seemed to imply that the Great Twilight and Phantasmal Blaze had completely different goals... though how she'd be in a position to know that idk.

UHHHHHHHHHH WHAT

*looks up*

en: This is the successful execution of the Phantasmal Blaze Plan.
jp: All in exchange for the completion of the Phantasmal Blaze Plan.

yo **** nisa.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

From: XP

On to some more serious analysis here... I'm still not entirely sure what Millium/Claire/Lechter's deal was with this. Those 3 were like... pretty clearly... on the side of Class VII here but fought us anyway. They reference a "truth" that had them sticking with Osborne for this but uhhh... the only thing off-hand I can think of was they were told it was Millium or Altina but that doesn't make sense for Millium to go for, nor does it explain moments like Lechter imploring them to save Altina after they lost. guess it could just be CS4 content but yeah.

don't wanna answer in full in fear of accidentally spoiling, and I don't have time right now to look at the entire speech, but I did check that part and maybe this'll help clear things up:

en: I hope you don't think ill of us. We Ironbloods simply cannot oppose His Excellency. Though this whole situation is unfair, now that we know a piece of the truth, we cannot go against it.
jp: Do not rebuke us so. His Excellency simply holds that great a presence in our hearts. Too great, perhaps... And as absurd as this enterprise may be, we have glimpsed enough of the truth to know that we cannot fully oppose its course.

So some differences there... Or maybe that still leaves you confused. I dunno.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Leonhart4 posted...

So George is working for the Gnomes now, too, huh? Or has he always been?

about that...
xp1337 posted...

Also George Nome the cheeky bastard was hiding in plain sight!

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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Leonhart4 posted...

dowolf posted...

wait what

what did NISA do to her?

Unless they ad-libbed all of Angelica's lines to be her hitting on every girl in sight, I don't know that you can blame NISA for that.

i mean, i haven't looked at that many yet, but...

eng: I could just eat you up.
jp: That's my Towa.

eng: She MUST be an engineer, because she's gone to work on my heart
jp: nothing. like literally this line was made up out of whole cloth in the English.

eng: Something like, "Angie's a wonderful woman of inestimable character who you can, nay, SHOULD happily offer your body to"?
jp: Did he speak of how I'm a wonderful, dependable lady who you could devote yourself to body and soul?

eng: [Angelica] flirts with any girl with a pulse.
jp: nothing, again.

like yes she does hit on the girls but she's been doing that for the whole time >_>
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

wait what

what did NISA do to her?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

pyresword posted...

Musse is amazing I hate all of you.

honestly Musse in CS3 is kind of a mess.

still, as long as we agree New Class VII > Old Class VII, we're good.pyresword posted...

I still don't really even know what happened in the part you're talking about at the end of the game. (Or more accurately why it happened I guess) Did he just randomly lose control of his power again like on the Northern War? Was it triggered somehow by Osborne or the Curse? Why didn't Osborne just do everything himself? Hoping they explain this in CS4 ever, assuming that I didn't miss something.

I... think this was explained in 3? I don't want to give the answer, just in case I'm wrong. But even if it wasn't, the pieces are all there to figure it out IMO.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

the best part of CS shipping is that everyone can agree that Machias is the worst.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

i am laughing so hard right now and i can't say why.

the struggle is real.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

I think it works pretty well in CS3 because they wisely have the victory condition be "reduce HP by X%." Makes it feel less cheap.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

LeonhartFour posted...

I can only imagine what it must have been like for Alisa's mom and Tita's mom to be together in the same room

I need to see it

Erika spinoff game when.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

I guess Machias gets better but he's pretty high in my list of "game-would-be-better-without" people so >_>
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

siiva people think they hear inspector gadget everywhere smh...

:P
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

...man we should all just chip in like 20 bucks or something to buy SaveEstelle a potato that'll run it and Cold Steel 1+2.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

pyresword posted...

There's NPC dialogue stuff and some of the sidequests which--yes--I think there's effectively no explanation/context for at all.

That's largely what I mean, yeah. Though also, like, does the game really explain who Chairman MacDowell even is?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

pyresword posted...

Chapter 2 I think there's a lot more potential for there to be emotional context missing from having not played Zero/Ao. Though in fairness, I think the game does make some attempt to cover for that possibility and is at least somewhat successful. (Since I have watched playthroughs of Zero/Ao, I don't think I'm in a position to say exactly how successful...)

With Chapter 2, unless there's been significant changes to the script, I literally don't know how a lot of it makes sense without playing zero/ao. Which, I suppose, means those changes must have happened? *shrug*

Also the game starts straight-up spoiling pretty much everything that happened in Crossbell so <_<
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Yeah, this is part and parcel of why my stance for the last several months has generally been "find some way to experience Crossbell before CS3."

And as I've said before, if not in this topic: yeah chapter 1 is insane. Easily the best initial segment (so prologue for the games with good-length prologues, chapter 1 otherwise) in the series, and rest assured there ain't no breaks to this train.

because that would upset Pablo
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

xp1337 posted...

Was surprised by her voice after hearing her Japanese voice during the Crossbell playthrough. When Class VII, Fie/Sara, and Duvalie/Shirley collide it's gonna be amazing.

i've watched random vids of the english game because I dunno I like judging things, haven't heard Shirley yet...

*thirty seconds later*

eh, it's not bad, but Japanese Shirley's so good~
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

You should be fine with relationship points, yes.

or you could get addicted to card games like the rest of us~
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

I mean.

On the one hand, Estelle is such a good protagonist that it feels unfair to compare everyone else to her.

On the other hand, like even if you like Lloyd you gotta admit he's bottom-tier in his own games.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

last thought on
Mac Arrowny posted...

xp1337 posted...

Major Ao no Kiseki Spoilers:

from me, but:

You can make an argument that Ian is in the right, sure. And certainly it takes a certain level of privilege to say "I want humanity as it is, warts and all, not some gilded mockery of life"; the metric is very different when one suffers the warts themselves. Yet there is also beauty in the struggle, and characters in a story are allowed to embrace that beauty regardless of the utilitarian value of it. In fact, I would argue reducing characters to strictly utilitarian instruments would make for a rather boring story. and to the original point, I would argue that an ending where one side is unambiguously right is less interesting than one where you can appreciate both.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Randy > Tio = Wazy > Rixia >= Noel >> Lloyd > Elie

looks about right. Noel's in a weird place for me where I think she could be removed from the game and not change anything about it, but I still like her better than the beta version of Rean that is Lloyd.

though implying Kea not a main character XP please.

And yeah, Ao's incredible. Some of the plot points in and around the final battle in particular have really stuck in my mind and aged like a fine wine, if that makes any sense. Especially when (Ao, DQ11 spoilers) I went from playing the former to the latter, which takes literally the exact opposite position on "let's reset time to save people, even if that means never becoming the people we are now," except DQ11 wusses out of it by just magically having everything in Act 2 that they wanted to happen happen anyways DQ11 has problems, is what I'm trying to say anywhoooooooo

oh hey CS3 time! In general, probably gonna refrain from responding to specific things because spoilers but rest assured my popcorn is ready.

though speaking of the CS3 opening credits THE MUSIC'S SO GOOD <3 <3 <3 still blows me away just thinking of it.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

...that's one more than the bills.

i am bizarrely jealous.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

man, wing fortress is so good in-game.

also poor Final Zone :(
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Tag
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Cold Steel 1 and 2 are both out for PS4!!!!!!!
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

yeah if you're playing KH for the story, you're doing it wrong.

If you're not playing Cold Steel for the story, I won't say you're doing it wrong (I really like the combat system, especially in 3/4), but I am confuddled.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

3 is easily the best Cold Steel, yes.

Honestly, playing CS3 first is like... Like, think of any series you like that has a timeskip. Imagine starting after the timeskip. That is literally what you are doing. Like sure, this is a thing you can do, and I suppose it's one of the less bad places to start midway -- but I wouldn't recommend it.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Sayonara
DNF FW15C
Hope

i dunno i just needed to hear hope today.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

metroid composite posted...

What the? Why are there semicolons instead of commas after Think Globally, Lead Responsibly? Like...I can see why if someone had this in a word processor, the word processor might put a red underline and tell you to add a semicolon. "Think Globally" is technically a complete sentence. But in this context it's an object, enumerating core values.

For a list preceded by a colon, if one or more of those items has a comma, most style guides will recommend the use of semicolons in order to make things clear.

The weirdest thing about this for me is that I don't really mind this being a compromise between western and Chinese interests, though the punishment's still kinda harsh. Just, you know, don't lie to me and tell me it wasn't.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Second Dark Matter Battle
Flying Clouds, Drifting Haze

Unfinished Battle's really good too, though I don't like it as much as I once did.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Ah, I see the line you're talking about now -- it's actually a different line than I thought.

The line in question actually says "The Lodge in question was destroyed not as part of the larger operation [of 6 years ago], but rather in an independent attack conducted by the Organization responsible for last year's incident in Liberl." An understandable mistake (basically, the TLer failed to grok a relative phrase, which semantically functions a lot like a prepositional phrase in English, except it ends in a verb that behaves essentially like an adjective [grammar is fun]), if still one of the ones I'd consider a "red flag" in terms of someone being ready to do a translation like this.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius