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Actually, I suspect the DNC does not care that much about winning. They care more about protecting the wealth and privilege of their constituents (the affluent). They would rather have 20 years of Trump than suffer Bernie to be president for 4.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

the left winning leads to anarchy? pretty sure muffin would be a lot more sympathetic to the left if that were the case!

Muffin has awful political instincts, even worse than the DNC. He's basically always wrong and chooses the option that will hurt his cause most.

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Privilege is what makes people believe that the arc of history bends toward justice!

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Mike Flynn transcript:

https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1266480054470492160

Getting help when you need it is not subservient. Fact of the matter is that we were losing the war in the Middle East. We swallowed our pride and asked Russia for help and then we won.

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Also, while this is from copyright law so I don't know if it would apply here, it has long been established that content aggregation produces copyrightable material. So if I collect a list of addresses and put them in a phone directory, that book is copyrightable notwithstanding that all of the information in it is public record.

The nature of a typical platform is that they do not curate their content, or they let users self-curate (like Reddit upvoting/downvoting). Curation is a form of content production, and nothing in section 230 says that it isn't with the exception that platforms have a safe harbor for restricting content based on obscenity, lewdness, etc. As a matter of feeling, I think a court would probably see it that way too.


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Jakyl25 posted...

Oh god now Im imagining a GoFundMe to help Twitter and cringing at all the people who would donate just because its anti-Trump

Well, whoever donated to Stormy Daniels may have ended up paying Trump when she was ordered to pay his attorney's fees for bringing a frivolous suit against him.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

No, that's the whole point of the law. Congress recognized that if an online company with a large userbase provided the ability for those users to post content, it would be impossible for those companies to uniformly police that content. 230 is saying that companies can allow users to post stuff, and attempt to police it, without undertaking liability. (They do have to take down illegal stuff if notified).

Well let's look at it.

No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of

(A) any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; or any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; or

I don't see "false" or "politically bad" anywhere on there. There is a canon of construction that blanket catchalls like "otherwise objectionable" refer to things similar to the list that precedes them. Obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, and harassing are very different in type to false things or political opinions with which one disagrees. So, I don't think "otherwise objectionable" could apply to fact-checking and certainly not to opinion policing.


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LordoftheMorons posted...

Wonder if Ted would have complained about a fact check on Trump's assertion that his dad killed JFK

If they did a fact check on it the theory would never die. Because that would imply there was a debate on it, with at least two sides. Ted did the right thing when faced with a ridiculous allegation like that - ignore it.

A big part of political acumen is being able to decide which allegations are ridiculous on their face and should be ignored, and which ones need to be rebutted (i.e. swiftboating). If you can't distinguish between them, you tend to choose the wrong strategy and fan the flames even more.

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Oh, if Ted Cruz made a statement on it, he's probably right. The guy was a frequent practitioner before the Supreme Court and knows his stuff.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

No, thats wrong. Its the exact same as moderation. The only way Twitter would be liable is if the edit to Trumps tweet itself was something they could be sued for (like if they edited in a download link to some pirated material). By having a TOS and enforcing it imperfectly, a website does not open itself up to liability (in fact, given that there are, what, hundreds of millions(?) of twitter users, it should be obvious that it would be impossible to do so).

Is there precedent on that? If so, how high up is the court that set it? Also, there's a big difference between having a TOS for profanity, obscenity, illegal activities, copyright violations, etc. and censoring political messages based on their content.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Just caught up on the last topic. Seph, you (and apparently every single Trump-supporting Republican) completely misunderstand 230. Entities are not permanently classified as platforms or publishers. They can be both, depending on the context; they are publishers of the content they produce, and platforms (without the same liability) for content their users post:

https://twitter.com/normative/status/1266392603852931073?s=21

What you and Trump are essentially trying to argue is that to provide a platform to without risking being sued into oblivion, a company has to give up their right to free speech. I hope you can appreciate how absurd (and antithetical to American values) that is!

No, he's saying that by censoring posts made on it, a company is no longer a platform but is now publishing the posts made on it. That has nothing to do with the company's own free speech. That is a completely independent issue. But if they are policing posts users make and approving some and disapproving others, they are adopting the speech they approve as their own, which would lead to liability.

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Also I am so shocked that Corrik would be so cavalier about breaking the law himself given his philosophy of legalism.

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Jakyl25 posted...

It really boggles my mind that you can say this and then also say that our laws and justice system, which all stem from this, are infallible

I think he's basically saying that might makes right.

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Darn it, those stocks I sold rallied after that press conference when Trump didn't announce anything drastic with China. My timing today and yesterday has been so bad.

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Yeah, the penalty for treason in 1776 was death. If they lost the war, the Declaration of Independence was the signers' own death warrant.

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This is why it's so important that Republicans win. We are an election or two away from anarchy and mob rule if the left wins.

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Don't like Klobuchar, but not going to second guess her decisions as DA from 14 years ago without a knowledge of the facts. If we're going to criticize her record how about criticizing her policy of going after poor and minorities for minor crimes?

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In a democracy, your primary means of change is through voting. But if you are in the minority, you don't have the right to force change, through peaceful means or otherwise. People may not like that, but that's the reality of the situation. It's just like how in an absolute monarchy, you can petition the king to change policies but you don't have the right to force the king to do what you want.

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KamikazePotato posted...

Oh man I come back to check in on the Politics topic after a while and find everyone engaging with Human Piece of Shit SephG again like he's a human being

Great job guys you did real well learning from your mistakes

If you don't like the conversation you could have just not posted.

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This whole idea of holding individual police officers accountable is never going to work, because the problem is not that specific individual police officers are bad people. The problem is structural, and the real root of it is that there are so many guns in the US, which makes police afraid of being killed.

Not sure what a solution would look like, but haven't seen anything so far that could actually work.

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Nelson_Mandela posted...

What's the measure for this so we know if progress is being made? Does every death of an unarmed black man need to result in a riot? Or is it only if the officer isn't arrested?

In history, I don't think giving in to insurrection ever works. The insurrectionists just become ever more emboldened until they try to seize power by force.

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TheRock1525 posted...

I think the larger message should be that the heads of state should be reflective of our society, and while we cannot control who is picked for the presidency, we can for the VP.

Who is "we?" If it's Joe Biden, that's exactly why him announcing that he will pick a woman for VP is so demeaning.

If it's the voters, then we absolutely can control who is picked for the presidency.

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It's also really bad politics if you announce that you are using a quota. That will hurt you with the majority of voters.

If you want to nominate a woman as VP, don't announce beforehand that you're doing it to fill a quota. Say that you picked her because she was the best person for the job. And if you can't say that honestly for any person, then you should pick someone else.

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At this point, the only people in the D tent that are not obnoxious to me are:

Bernie Sanders
Tulsi Gabbard
Andrew Yang
Marianne Williamson
Pete Buttigieg
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Everyone else is a dealbreaker (including Biden).

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Elizabeth Warren is disingenuous to the max. I'll vote for Biden if Trump picks her as his VP.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Its because he used the word Thugs, which is heavily racial historically

The word "thugs" applies very well to looters. Whatever racial association it may have historically its association with looting and other violent crime is at least 10 times stronger.

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Jakyl25 posted...

The idea that the arc of history bends towards justice is nonsense

Thank you!

If some Biden supporters would sincerely acknowledge this I would consider voting for him.

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Well I sold all my stocks other than LK. Have bad vibes about how strong the market has been the last 2 months and this press conference.

I have a little over $1,000 in value in LK based on the current share price right now, so will let it ride. I think it's more likely than not to fall but the potential gain is so enticing. Who knows - maybe Trump will start a trade war and get Starbucks kicked out of China.

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Ah, the press conference is set for 2 p.m. eastern.

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I think after market close? Not sure.

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I sold my CAR shares today. It made up most of yesterday's decline so I closed the trade at +93%. I feel spooked by this China press conference and the fact that the Dow is only 4,000 or so below the all-time high.

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Urban insurrection preceded the Reign of Terror in Revolutionary France by just a couple years. Insurrection is one step short of armed rebellion.

Incidentally, the colonial government of North Carolina passed an rather incredible law against insurrection. Participating in even a peaceful protest and refusing to leave within one hour when instructed to leave by police was made punishable by death. The law applied retroactively to before it was passed, anyone could be charged by having their name posted publicly, and failure to show up for court was deemed a guilty plea.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Im gonna need a gif of this. I cant see how this works without them smashing into each other

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR6aj2HECi4

They can't actually orbit each other without smashing into each other so you have to move them out a little so they aren't overlapping.

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Normally both thumbs are going the same direction - i.e. both thumbs are going away from the body at the top of the rotation and towards the body at the bottom of the rotation. Or both are going toward the body at the top and away from the body at the bottom.

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Are you able to your twiddle your thumbs in opposite directions?

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Corrik7 posted...

No. Absolutely not. You are not responsible for the insane actions others make unless you were in direct authority over them and ordered them to do so.

The only exception would be you repeatedly, specifically taking advantage of someone's mental condition or capacity in a very clear way.

As a leader, your job is to get results. I'm not talking about legal responsibility or moral responsibility. Just, if we're choosing a leader, I want the one that thinks through the actual impact their decisions will have on the world rather than going "it's not my fault someone else did X." As a leader your job is to stop X, not to pin blame for X on someone else. This is something that Trump explained very well in the 2016 campaign and was a major failure of Hillary. Your job as a president is to get results, not to do something that looks reasonable.

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No, that's on the stable person. Unstable people can't reliably make good decisions, because they're unstable. As a society, we need to place decisionmaking power on the stable, not the unstable.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Yeah, but then at the end he says that several Dem governors should be executed for treason

That's not the same as saying that all Democrats have committed treason. The meaning is clear. Politically, a Democrat is only good when his political career is over. And then he's accusing a few specific Democrats of treason.

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Vote away!

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Jakyl25 posted...

FACT CHECK: FALSE

I'm going to rate this one....False.

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Moonroof posted...

Yes, but that doesnt mean they will go up everyday from yesterdays price. As evidenced by their price today.

Did you sell yesterday? It went down a decent amount today.

Nope. I probably should have sold some to even out the portfolio allocation (since CAR doubled from when I bought it, it had become 2x what it was originally as a percentage of my portfolio).

But I'm not too concerned, a down day is expected after it ran up 100% in 2 weeks. Unless Trump embargoes China or something tomorrow, then I'll really regret not selling everything yesterday.

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turbopuns3 posted...

Bad like what exactly

Like, he could announce new tariffs, travel bans, sanctions etc. which would cause China to announce reciprocal tariffs, bans, etc. which would cause the stock market to fall.

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Oh Trump is making a press conference on China tomorrow. This could be bad.

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Well that was a pretty awful day. Gave back most of yesterday's gains.

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Trump is the Voice of the People. When you look at Trump, you are looking at yourself. Every time you ignored, belittled, shunned, attacked, insulted another person - that negative energy didn't go away. It accumulated, until the time was ripe. And now the People have found their Voice.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Oh youll be glad to know that they claim they only fact checked his tweets for this reason

https://twitter.com/jack/status/1265837143827468289?s=21

Nothing at all to do with the OPINION that voting by mail leads to fraud

Ah good, glad to see they issued that correction. Hopefully, they'll be more careful next time about their choice of words.

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1266047584038256640?s=21

Hes specifically targeting the Twitter employee again that Dorsey explicitly told him not to

He wants a war

Twitter is playing with fire.

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I added to my LK position. Now my average cost is $4.29. Let's go!

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LordoftheMorons posted...

What a reply:
https://twitter.com/ScienceLt/status/1187830895660732421?s=20

Donald Trump - the only candidate preparing for meteor impact. That's one of the reasons for the Space Force.

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SuperNiceDog posted...

Better than MGM? I personally really love MGM as the company, as for the stock... the others might be slightly better. They all move together though

For the financials, MGM has a more burdensome debt load. For the properties as a consumer, I guess a lot of my feeling is based on the fact that Steve Wynn built the Bellagio and the Mirage. He sold them to MGM 20 years ago, but the fact that Bellagio is still MGM's flagship property shows that they haven't had the vision to build something revolutionary like that.

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