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| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 276: We Hold These Truths to Be Slelf-Evident |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 4:47:41 PM #373 | pyresword posted... Can we please stop this narrative in which Bernie is the only one with a shot at beating Trump when most objective metrics I've seen suggest Biden has the better shot (really I would put them effectively equal) and also the x-factors suggest that Biden's numbers would more effectively carry over to the general. I think it's pretty much reality. Biden will tank in the head to head matchup polls with Trump once he's the nominee. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 276: We Hold These Truths to Be Slelf-Evident |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 4:27:59 PM #362 | Corrik7 posted... Conservatives follow the letter of the law. Progressives follow what they feel the law should mean today. Basically the difference. Yeah, if you can actually pass all those ideas that Bernie wants, to the extent they are constitutional, the Supreme Court isn't going to stop them. The wealth tax is probably unconstitutional and you'll need a constitutional amendment for that, but, again, the Supreme Court isn't going to stop you from getting one. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 276: We Hold These Truths to Be Slelf-Evident |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 3:41:07 PM #354 | TheRock1525 posted... Because if you let Trump appoint a 7-2 conservative majority Supreme Court good luck having any sort of progressive agenda during your lifetime. If you're okay with that then go ahead and stay home but at the very least you should go vote and write in Bernie Sanders. The conservative Supreme Court follows the law as written. If you pass constitutional progressive laws they will enforce them, if you want them to enact progressive policies themselves, they will refuse as they should. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Who do you want to be the 2020 Democratic nominee for President? |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 3:19:59 PM #10 | Good Candidates Bernie Sanders Tulsi Gabbard Bad Candidates The Rest --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Who do you support for President in 2020? |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 2:42:14 PM #10 | Nelson_Mandela posted... Where's Hillary? Assuming she steals the nomination in the contested convention. That's a good point. I forgot her because she isn't a candidate yet, but she probably is a "primary remaining contender" so she probably should be in the poll. Probably would just LFF Warren and Bloomberg on this board though. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 276: We Hold These Truths to Be Slelf-Evident |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 2:38:59 PM #349 | Jakyl25 posted... https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1234897839903383552?s=21 As Martin Luther King and Barack Obama said, "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. Perhaps we will see justice for the American People against Hillary Clinton in our lifetimes. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 276: We Hold These Truths to Be Slelf-Evident |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 2:33:33 PM #346 | Also, even if you think they are "mistakes" that doesn't mean they weren't caused by stuttering. Here's an example. I'm sitting on a plane. The flight attendant is a couple rows in a front of me with the drink cart. I want a coke. I start thinking about saying it and realize I cannot get that word out. I decide to order water instead and tell myself that maybe water isn't so bad, maybe it's better than coke. Because I would prefer to choose water for some reason like it's healthier, or it's more hydrating, than to admit the real reason: I couldn't say the word "coke." --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 276: We Hold These Truths to Be Slelf-Evident |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 2:30:23 PM #345 | ChaosTonyV4 posted... https://www.axios.com/joe-biden-stuttering-verbal-stumbles-b9238c3c-d1cc-400a-ab11-bf0f971c38d9.html Joe Biden comes of an era where you did everything possible not to let people know you stuttered. And sometimes that involves saying something different from what you really wanted to say, because you couldn't get the right words out. It beats being unable to speak and looking stupid. This was a really important and extremely useful method for me to deal with stuttering. I think nowadays the environment is more understanding about stuttering but I can definitely see how Biden would prefer to have his gaffes attributed to mistakes than to stuttering. That said, when speaking of senility, I am not necessarily talking about gaffes like him saying he's running for Senate or "vote for the other Biden." During the debates he seemed to be in a different world from the other candidates, or a different era. He seemed to speak entirely in platitudes and didn't seem to understand how his own policies are supposed to work. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Who do you support for President in 2020? |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 2:00:59 PM #7 | Dantezoid posted... Wowowowow If you want the real motivation, I thought Tulsi and Jill Stein might LFF Trump. So out they go! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Who do you support for President in 2020? |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 1:59:30 PM #5 | pyresword posted... Does Bernie Sanders (I) just mean that Bernie is my preferred candidate, or is this specifically a hypothetical version of Sanders that has lost the Democratic primary and is running regardless as an independent? It just means he is not a Democrat. He could be their nominee without being a Democrat. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 276: We Hold These Truths to Be Slelf-Evident |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 1:55:11 PM #339 | Nelson_Mandela posted... Good! One freak election from having someone as terrible as Sanders in the White House is way too much. Hopefully his supporters leave the country or fully give up on democracy so we never have this again. If this was Joe Biden of 1990, maybe. But I think with him being on the edge of senility, there's a big risk that a President Biden just does whatever the Democratic establishment tells him to do. Which means, since they want to preserve their wealth and refuse to do anything to address inequality, but need to appease the anger from the left with the inequality problem, that they will try to blame everything on conservatives, Christians, white people, men, uneducated people, etc. and will propose vicious policies to harm them. I am not confident at all in Biden's ability not to rubber stamp whatever the DNC says. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Who do you support for President in 2020? |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 1:49:39 PM #3 | I think Tulsi has pretty much zero chance at this point so she was taken out of the poll. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Who do you support for President in 2020? |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 1:26:50 PM #1 | Who do you support?
Vote
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| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 276: We Hold These Truths to Be Slelf-Evident |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 1:19:54 PM #329 | Netanyahu wins round 3 although it looks like there will be further negotiations as his coalition will probably end up with 59 out of 120 seats. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 276: We Hold These Truths to Be Slelf-Evident |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 12:59:46 PM #327 | If Bloomberg wasn't in the race Pete probably doesn't quit. He actually had good results in the early states and he'd be polling better in the national polls. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 276: We Hold These Truths to Be Slelf-Evident |
| red sox 777 03/03/20 1:20:19 AM #226 | Dancedreamer posted... Yes. Screw women's rights. Screw LGBT rights. Screw unions. Screw education. We need to teach the DNC a lesson by giving conservatives a super majority on the supreme court for the next 40 years! A lesson they'll surely learn this time! If they won't learn then all of those things will come to pass and it will be because of their failure. They can't bury their heads in the sand and perpetually tell voters to vote for them just one more election, and then they'll change. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 275: Reports of Joe's death are greatly malarkied |
| red sox 777 03/02/20 5:40:01 PM #412 | If there is a Biden/Warren ticket brokered by Bloomberg they are getting wrecked in the general. Many Bernie people won't just stay home - they'll vote for Trump. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 275: Reports of Joe's death are greatly malarkied |
| red sox 777 03/02/20 11:21:30 AM #264 | Warren also refused to shake Bernie's hand after calling him a liar on national TV. And she didn't endorse him in 2016 when she might have made some difference. To me, the refusal to endorse Bernie over Hillary is just unacceptable. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 275: Reports of Joe's death are greatly malarkied |
| red sox 777 03/02/20 11:19:03 AM #263 | Nelson_Mandela posted... That's what happens when you don't have a job until age 39! So we can extend longevity by starting work later? Or maybe not working at all would promote maximum lifespan. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 275: Reports of Joe's death are greatly malarkied |
| red sox 777 03/01/20 7:03:16 AM #65 | Xp also blocked me a while ago, I guess because he doesn't want to listen to reality about what's going to happen in November. Good riddance I suppose. Enjoy 4 more years of Trump. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 275: Reports of Joe's death are greatly malarkied |
| red sox 777 03/01/20 12:45:49 AM #8 | Corrik7 posted... https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/south-carolina-primary-results-2020/h_4d722feaef01e08ad51294df7c2adb1a That's because SC has so many more people than the other early states. By representation in the House: IA - 4 NH - 2 NV - 4 SC - 7 And both IA and NV were caucuses which have lower turnout. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/29/20 5:36:10 PM #409 | In fact, both of them were opponents of Hillary Clinton. That makes them Trump's allies along with the American People. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/29/20 5:30:58 PM #407 | MichelBollinger posted... https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1233877733668618240?s=19 Neither Obama nor Bernie are Trump's political opponents. At least not yet. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/29/20 4:41:11 PM #402 | HeroDelTiempo17 posted... Smh the bernie bros are at it again Those "Bernie bros" are people who voted in the Republican primary in 2016. Good luck winning a national election without them. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/29/20 4:22:57 PM #396 | LordoftheMorons posted... I dont see any evidence of that whatsoever There was also no evidence against President Trump at his trial. The Senate heard no witnesses, ergo there was no evidence. It's an old strategy. Throw out all the evidence I don't like and then proclaim there's no evidence. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/29/20 4:19:47 PM #394 | Leafeon13N posted... They obviously don't like him but this is not true. They have pretty much just taken the approach of staying the fuck out of the way. Because they figured out that whatever they do will hurt them. Also, they are still deluding themselves into thinking they have a significant chance of winning with a non-Bernie candidate, so they don't want to risk damaging that candidate in the general. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/29/20 4:17:08 PM #392 | Of course they prefer Trump. Trump implements all the policies they want that benefit them while also taking all the blame. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/29/20 1:54:07 PM #384 | Joe Biden definitely wouldn't graduate nowadays. He thinks in high school it's okay to start a physical fight with a classmate! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/29/20 1:19:59 PM #379 | Leafeon13N posted... Can you imagine if Obama made a deal with the Taliban to get us out of Afghanistan? That's probably why Obama didn't do it. He was afraid of bad publicity. Luckily now we have a President who isn't afraid of criticism and knows to accept failure when we've been beat. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/29/20 9:31:37 AM #362 | Nelson_Mandela posted... Literally anyone worrying about this should be sterilized. I don't know how you people graduated high school. Sephy, these days you might get expelled for exercising your right to free speech. Anyone can graduate high school as long as they don't get expelled. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 8:10:55 PM #329 | LordoftheMorons posted... Another fun story: Trump is renominating John Ratcliffe for DNI a year after he had to pull him due to bipartisan opposition Thanks Nancy! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 7:47:13 PM #325 | Also, remember: Bernie doesn't want to lock up poor people. Bernie doesn't think poor people are deplorable. Bernie doesn't think poor people are irredeemable. Bernie doesn't think anyone who doesn't support liberal social policies is deplorable. Bernie doesn't think anyone who doesn't support liberal social policies is irredeemable. Bernie believes in democracy. Bernie does not believe money should play a big role in politics. Bernie understands that neoliberal ecoomics has not worked for at least 80% of the country. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1326 |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 7:43:39 PM #391 | So I'm not sure if I can really participate in this contest. I have played a grand total of zero of these games. I may have played SSBU for all of an hour. I watched some videos of the cutscenes of Skyward Sword. But I really have no idea what these games are or how strong they should be. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 7:40:49 PM #323 | Like LOTM, do you think we Republicans support Mike Pence or Mitch McConnell because we think they are the best choices in some abstract sense? No, we support them because they are darn good at getting our agenda done. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 7:39:17 PM #322 | LordoftheMorons posted... If they thought he was the best candidate it would be fine. They're specifically being urged to vote for Sanders because they think he's the weakest general election candidate. Doesn't contradict with them thinking he's the best! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 7:34:36 PM #318 | LordoftheMorons posted... SC GOP elected officials were openly pushing for Republicans to vote for Bernie in the primary. Hoping that isn't significant. What's the problem? They think Bernie is the best candidate running in the primary that's being contested. They have as much of a right to vote as anyone else. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 7:25:01 PM #316 | ChaosTonyV4 posted... https://twitter.com/peterhamby/status/1233545153513709568?s=21 There is a very obvious explanation for this. There is no contested Republican primary this year. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 4:15:38 PM #295 | LordoftheMorons posted... You'll never guess what emergency response the White House is considering to help stop the coronavirus and its true victim: Payroll tax cut yes please! Although if it needs to pass the House I don't think we have much chance. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
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| red sox 777 02/28/20 3:47:16 PM #291 | ChaosTonyV4 posted... Well I think if Bernie has the most delegates, hell certainly have the popular vote. The thing with the primaries is that going by popular vote is extremely unfair to states with caucuses, since they have much lower turnout. It's basically disenfranchising them. I think you have to go by delegate count. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
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| red sox 777 02/28/20 1:54:55 PM #259 | HeroDelTiempo17 posted... You can argue these things are constitutional, sure. Whether they are democratic is a separate issue! The original founding documents were not very democratic at all. That's why we've been so successful as a country. Compare with France which had a revolution a few years after us and was chopping off heads in the public squares within 4 years. What did we have that France lacked? Democracy? No. We had checks and balances. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
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| red sox 777 02/28/20 1:35:29 PM #248 | HeroDelTiempo17 posted... Yes, and they will use that judicial authority to uphold gerrymandering, voter suppression, and revisit intimidation tactics like the census question to attack democracy. All while also ceding more power to the executive, and using their lopsided Senate majority (whose bias will only increase in Rs favor in years to come) to block any legislation that could challenge them. The electoral solution is to actually try to win votes from the electorate, and not just from people who don't vote! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 1:29:07 PM #246 | TheRock1525 posted... You do realize if Trump wins, he's likely to replace Ginsburg and Breyer, right? If progressive agenda is fixated on trying to get an unelected Supreme Court to change the laws rather than having elected representatives change the law through the legislative process, they are screwed anyway. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 1:21:09 PM #242 | HashtagSEP posted... I mean, LotM is regularly accused of not caring about poor people and the like, but how is refusing to vote any better? You're still giving a giant middle finger to all the people Trump is fucking. He is voting. In the primary. He may also vote in the general for someone like Jill Stein. If the two main parties are the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party and the Elephants Trampling On People Party, and Tony votes third party, both of the two big parties are going to accuse him of being heartless because his vote will be construed as a vote for leopards eating people's faces, or for elephants trampling on people, in that he failed to vote against one of them. But voting for neither of them is still the right thing to do. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 1:16:42 PM #238 | Democrats have this thing about hyping up whoever is the leader of the Republican Party of the day as a monster, and then deciding after he's out of power that he wasn't so bad after all because the next guy is worse. This kind of treatment is not going to endear Republicans to you - you'll be viciously attacked no matter what you do, so at some point it becomes more advantageous to not even try to gain support from Democrats. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg |
| red sox 777 02/28/20 1:12:48 PM #237 | Trump really isn't bad unless you're an illegal immigrant or part of the government bureaucracy. There's little question life has improved for virtually everyone else since Trump took office. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
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| red sox 777 02/28/20 1:11:20 PM #236 | DoomTheGyarados posted... Polls are telling me your state isn't going to fail me, red New Hampshire? Or California? --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
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| red sox 777 02/28/20 12:53:01 PM #229 | You can also vote straight ticket R to show the DNC. Maximum pressure! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
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| red sox 777 02/28/20 1:40:59 AM #178 | Ashethan posted... Yes, his base. But not the Republicans who aren't part of his cult. The ones that held their nose and voted for Trump because Hillary was the other option. A lot of Democrats will energize them to vote against the Democrat. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
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| red sox 777 02/27/20 10:14:51 PM #145 | Corrik7 posted... I don't think Biden can beat Trump. He is a walking gaffe. All the Dem candidates are extremely flawed in the moderate lane. Yeah.....150 million people died of gun violence in the US? That would be half our population. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
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| red sox 777 02/27/20 8:02:57 PM #125 | LordoftheMorons posted... Hot take: Trump and Clinton were both medium strength politicians electability wise Oh absolutely. They would have gotten crushed. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! |
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