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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/houseintel/status/1224426959565922312?s=21

Yes, the Democrats don't care about Hillary's emails, they don't care about the Bidens and Burisma, they didn't even censure Debbie Wasserman Schultz for rigging a US election, but if a Republican or Bernie did things a tenth as bad they would impeach him.

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These negative attack ads against Bernie are a really bad idea for whoever is running them. They will just make him stronger, like all the attacks the Democrats have run against Donald Trump for 4 years. When you have people with no credibility attack others, whomever they attack gets helped!

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TheRock1525 posted...

If we're all the "would criticize Trump even if he cured cancer" crowd, Corrik would be "would defend Trump even if he gave him cancer".

If he did that to me, I'm sure it would be for a good reason, like stopping Hillary from giving twice as many people cancer.

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Joni Ernst talking about impeaching Biden for Ukraine corruption as soon as he takes office if he wins.

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Let's just have Hillary Clinton and John Kerry run as independents after Bernie wins the nomination. Donald Trump wins 45% of the popular vote and 532 electoral votes, taking everything but DC and Vermont, which goes to Bernie.

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In 100 years children will learn of the great President Donald Trump, the voice of the people who saved democracy from its enemies. In 1000 years, university students the world over will read The Art of the Deal alongside The Art of War. And in 3000 years, after the nuclear apocalypse, when the United States is only remembered in legends, and no one knows what an email is, still every child will learn of the great evil witch Hillary and her emails.

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Listening to Alan Dershowitz's speech to the Senate on impeachment. Brilliant, brave, courageous performance. Will be cited 100 years from now, much as he cites Justice Benjamin Curtis defending President Johnson.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

because of the same logic used during the mccain/palin days? the risk of bernie dying and hillary becoming president is too high?

No, because if Bernie makes Hillary his VP, then that would mean he's somehow been coopted by the centrists and will not be able to deliver on his promises. It would be Hillary as president behind the scenes.

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Trump should wear an ermine robe fringed with purple to the SOTU and be carried in on a palanquin.

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Answer: This poll relates to class consciousness.

More realistic answer: all of my polls are tagged as politics.

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This is for one meal.

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Jakyl25 posted...

I imagine you meant debase but now Im imagining shes the VP on both tickets

I'd have to vote for Jill Stein.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

I would honestly almost want to see this just to find out what the reaction would be among the Bros

Reaction from me would be to vote Trump.

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I think Trump would be happy to donate like 5 million to Hillary's campaign to be VP.

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Also, Jaykl, if you want Marxism, heed the words of Lenin - the worse things are, the better they are. You should be voting straight ticket Republican and even more importantly, vote for the most hardline, pro-rich and pro-corporation Republicans in the primaries.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Right. I dont think its rigged like, say, Putins elections are rigged

The rigging here is done systemically, not via direct action

Putin's elections are not rigged with direct action either. There are far more rigged elections around the world than Russia's.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Then why did Trump vote in 2016?

Because he didn't believe it was rigged. Just cuz Trump says something you can't believe it!

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Uh, if you really believe an election is rigged, voting in it absolutely hurts your cause.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/us/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders.html?0p19G=3248

lmao what is wrong with her

She's jealous. If she can't beat Trump she doesn't want anyone else to.

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Even if it was Thomas, it'd still be riskier than having the Senate decide.

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No reason to take any risk.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

A few DNC members brought it up and it's certainly not going to actually happen

If it's not going to happen why are they talking about it? Bernie is surging in the polls, they are taking precautions.

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I'm seeing a report on Yahoo News that the DNC is considering letting superdelegates vote on the first ballot to stop Bernie.

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Congratulations to the United Kingdom for leaving the European Union. Long live freedom!

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Youre just asking to be Soutered with that plan!

I'm fine with justices like Souter. I just don't like how the liberals nowadays tend to vote as a block. We've seen them vote as a block of 4 so many times, and the block of 5 liberals like to complain about so much doesn't show up nearly as often.

Also, I think young people should get some representation on the Supreme Court. For 200+ years, the high court has been dominated with old, experienced, jurists. We should try appointing a young person with no experience for a change. Just one. How much harm could he cause?

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Clarence Thomas isn't getting replaced with a Democrat. Even in the worst case, where a Republican loses a presidential election, he can retire and his successor can be confirmed between November and January. I would support appointing a 25-year-old who has just graduated from law school for maximum longevity.

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Yes, woe betide Democrats who want to let the tax cuts expire for the poor and middle class in 2025 while the continue in force for the rich. This is a great example of Mitch's foresightedness, actually.

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TheRock1525 posted...

What agenda did he get through? He blocked everything and got some judges. He got a shitty tax bill that will expire in a few years.

The tax cuts for the rich and corporations are permanent.

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He's not losing his majority. The Senate favors Republicans in the long run because it gives greater representation to the small states. There are a lot of remaining Democratic senators in red states who will gradually lose their seats and we will ultimately reach a new equilibrium with the number of Republican seats floating around 60.

Unless the Democratic Party does some introspection and turns back from the brink - but I think it's already too late. The Democratic Party is already in the control of the coastal, urban, elitist, liberals. Bernie is their last chance to broaden the tent but they would sooner make Mitch McConnell president than Bernie.

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Grimlyn posted...

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1223351079057813504

lmao

The problem with US lectures to other countries is that we rarely talk about what has actually made the US system work - a very strong system of checks and balances. Like today. The power of the House was checked and balanced.

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I think there is precedent for how the House of Commons speaker should break ties to avoid breaking his own impartiality. It was something like, on any vote to allow more debate, vote yes; on any vote to pass a bill vote no. Basically punt on substantive decisions as much as possible. I think Roberts could easily vote yes to witnesses using that logic.

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Realistically the Chief Justice is not going to allow a comment like that to change his decision. He's not that sensitive.

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The Senate should immediately censure Hillary Clinton.

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banananor posted...

Does bribing the president of Ukraine for personal gain fall under this category?

Of course it does. If the House believes the President did that they need to fulfill their duty and charge it.

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Jakyl25 posted...

What was the justification for acquitting Bill Clinton? He committed perjury and anyone who thinks he didnt is deluding themselves

It's not an impeachable offense. Let's look at the list of impeachable offenses:

Treason, Bribery, and other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Perjury is not treason or bribery. So what does "other high crimes and misdemeanors" mean? The word "other" means that "high crimes and misdemeanors" are similar in nature to treason and bribery. Does the word "high" modify "crimes" or "crimes and misdemeanors"? I think it has to be the latter, because 1) otherwise it would be written as "treason, bribery, other high crimes, and misdemeanors" and "misdemeanors" without a modifier are not similar in nature to treason and bribery.

So then we've established that impeachment only applies to offenses that are "high." Is perjury about a sex scandal a high crime? Probably not. So he was correctly acquitted.

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Okay, this discussion is dumb. Can we get back to talking about our glorious swamp drainer's complete and total exoneration?

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Also if people who have no need to do it because their gender is obvious from their name do it, it feels like an act of aggression (virtue signalling).

Remember we started by talking about Michael Bloomberg doing it.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Thats a proper noun

Just wait until after the election when we take back the House. We'll pass a new law declaring that "Supreme Leader" is a pronoun and is reserved for the President of the United States.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Uhhh are names not also a command?

Not really, because to not use the name someone gives would require you to make up a name. That would be totally arbitrary ("hi, you introduced yourself as Joseph, but I'm calling you Donald. Good morning Donald.")

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Jakyl25 posted...

If someone wanted you to use they/them pronouns to refer to them, would you?

If Trump announced that he wanted everyone to refer to him by the pronoun "Supreme Leader" would you?

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Jakyl25 posted...

Imagine having to do it often, in every online conversation.

Wouldnt it be easier on you at that point to just declare it up front?

But you don't really have a right to control what other people call you. When you tell someone to address you as X you are giving a command. Usually that will be followed but if that's the first thing you say to a person, well it creates an atmosphere of hostility.

And we have another way to declare preferred pronouns - names! You have full control over what you use as your name (you don't have to use your legal name).

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For me, "they" refers to either multiple people, a set of people that could contain a single person or multiple people, or a single person whose gender is unknown. It cannot refer to a single person whose gender is known. Now that last usage - a single person whose gender is unknown - generations of English teachers would have said is wrong, that in that situation you are supposed to use "he." However, apparently both Shakespeare and the King James Bible have used "they" in that situation so I will accept it as correct usage.

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Jakyl25 posted...

I know, which is why we need violent revolution

This kind of statement is also a tremendous vote winner for the Republican Party.

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This kind of thing is a tremendous vote winner for the Republican Party.

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Jakyl25 posted...

So you really believe this is happening

We hired the biggest swamp monster to drain the swamp. Who could do a better job?

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If Romney votes to remove he's getting primaried. I know he thinks he's safe in Utah but there are other Mormons who could do a much better job of voting Republican.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Can the Senate impeach Chief Justice Roberts for refusing to read Rand Pauls question naming the whistleblower?

No, only the House can impeach. But the Senate can overrule him and read out the question.

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TheRock1525 posted...

A) He said he didn't want to run against Hillary/Bernie.

B) I'm pretty sure he wouldn't bother with doing all this shit with Ukraine and Biden if he didn't think Biden would be his toughest opponent.

Like I said, people react in predictable ways. Trump may have done this to ensure that the Democratic primary centers on Biden, the way the Republican primary centered on Trump. The worst thing for Biden is for the primary to focus on policy, because he really doesn't have any policies other than to do whatever Obama did. And realistically, he'll need to hire experts to tell him what Obama would have done.

To get Biden as his opponent, Trump needed to make sure the Democratic primary did not center on policy....so make it about a Biden/Ukraine scandal and Democrats will rush to vote for him just because Trump is against him.

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A pardon is not an exoneration. We need a body like the Supreme Court or the Senate to find him actually innocent. We need the Democratic Party to apologize for their persecution of President Nixon for doing a very good job as President. For fighting for the silent majority and all that is good and right.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/1223095741662617600

If your process for writing charges is so bad that you are unable to charge an impeachable crime even with a mountain of evidence, then your process is shallow and hurried!

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