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Where someone says "people who complained about x are the same people saying that y", trying to point out their hypocrisy

when there is no base for saying they are the same group of people and thus the person is just saying that to complain and look like they are making a point?

ex: "people complained about (series) being the same game over and over then complained when it changed formula" where that is probably 2 different groups

I found the combat system overly simple and boring. The story is nice, but you have to care about A.I. and androids. I barely do so I had a hard time sticking through also

Omnislasher posted...

here's a novel fucking thought: seek out information from accredited experts instead of lunatic partisans on your facebook

I'm not sure where to look, and despite that I've still tried yet research I've done was inconclusive, as I've stated in one of the posts in this thread you didn't read, you angry child.

So I'm posting here to get information, with a neutral attitude, instead of just believing "lunatic partisans on my facebook"

Get out

LightHawKnight posted...

How do people not realize the danger is when hospitals are overrun? Most people get better cause there is room in hospitals. When a ton of people get it, and there is literally no beds left for the sick, anyone that needs a hospital for other reasons will die too.

Hospitals are empty here in Montreal, Canada. Obviously the heavy self-isolation measures helped but it left open the idea that "it wasn't so bad after all"

It doesn't help that our extremely corrupt government keeps cutting funds in healthcare and generally mismanaging everything health-related. I have a friend who went through cancer within the last months and the hospital failed to do a proper follow-up. It just all gives the general idea that they haven't been handling things sensibly.

Again, for the people who can't comprehend, I'm just stating why some people were doubtful about the severity of the virus. I'm not stating it is not a danger.

I'm not in the USA. The situation was very different here and the government did some shady shit like trying to pass extreme laws the opposition could not vote against. Some of which would fuck over the people. This kinda stuff added fuel to the fire.

You guys had rednecks protesting to get haircuts, I understand why you would feel polarized about this, but here nothing was very clear and some things were shady.

HagenEx posted...

It is. And even more so for me, my next door neighbor is currently in isolation, so this damn virus is in the vicinity. I mean the dude I mentioned was an athlete, competed in most pro softball tournaments in my state. He was one of those people that follow diets, and go to the gym daily and stuff.

I admit I was taking it lightly until a couple of weeks ago, not wearing mask and shit, but now when I gotta do my errands, I go with the whole thing. Gloves, mask and everything.

It helps being germophobic. Before any of this even happened I always felt like my fingers were "dirty" if I touched anything public. Like they were covered with paint that painted everything else I touched, until I washed it all.

I guess I will be even more careful to wear the mask now. I did it more or less to stop the general propagation to save the elderly but I'll be even more anal about it now.

HagenEx posted...

Well, an acquaintance of mine died from it about 3 weeks ago.

He was:

A non smoker
Non drinker
35 years old
Guy with no Diabetes, Hypertension or any other pre-existing conditions

Lasted less than a week from the moment he first developed symptoms.

So my take on it is sure, old people are more susceptible to getting it worse, but ANYONE can fucking die tragically from it. It doesn't matter if you're in "perfect health" like so many dumbfucks think they are around these boards.

damn. that is scary

legendarylemur posted...

There are confirmed long term damage to your lungs and even your brain. A guy supposedly lost 8% of his lung functions permanently and is in his early 20's. Another guy in his 20's showed 0 signs of danger and died overnight due to a youthful body responding too quickly.

COVID-19 isn't like a common cold or anything. It's a plague that you almost have to go to the hospital for. If you think about it, there aren't that many things you can catch nearly as easily that you absolutely need to go to the hospital for.

Damn. Here there was a lot of info about people having gotten through it aymptomatically and never having known that they caught it :/ It's been confusing

Raikuro posted...

Simply "reported cases of young people not dying" from something doesn't make it safe. Many healthy young people still require hospital stays and left with lung/brain damage afterward, or at least stay home several days off work (where they can still die from it undiagnosed so not counted in any death tolls). With how many Americans literally cannot afford a hospital trip or time off work, it just means they'd be working and infecting any coworkers and customers with a virus that can be physically/financially damaging and/or deadly to millions.

I see. I just don't receive much information about those "young people hospitalized". Not here, anyway

Lost_All_Senses posted...

I still think you're being kind of hard-headed about some stuff. But it is also strange to me how no one would drive that talking point, if it really was having damaging effects to a lot of people after getting over the main sickness. Maybe I'm ignorant, and this is happening out of my line of sight.

I want to know the answers to the ... non-believers's arguments. If I don't know what to answer them when they make arguments then it makes me doubt what I already know. so I'm pushing the discussion to get answers. This is not being hard-headed. It's exactly the opposite.

"Cmon dude" "people who don't wear masks are assholes" and other common emotional reactions are not arguments and do not help the cause. I know nuances are hard but I'm just trying to get more information. If people can't deal with a neutral point of view questioning things with an open mind and trying to get the real information then they are the one with a problem

OwlRammer posted...

Even if you don't die, doesn't it leave some pretty bad lung damage that won't fully heal for years? That sounds like it can have some pretty bad consequences later down the line if you get some other bad sickness that messes with your lungs or something

I saw something about that like 3 months ago then never again. It was not mentioned on my government's health website about the virus last I checked

I was still careful because I didn't wanna risk it but yeah. Nothing about this virus has been clear from the beginning

shockthemonkey posted...

Its too soon to know any long term effects but we do know that an absolute fuckload of people are dying.

Numbers were fucked around with though giving fuel to the ... non-believers.

Things like, deaths from all causes being mixed in the numbers of COVID deaths, because the people died of other causes but had the virus at the time?

Here they said Montreal was a gigantic contaminated area, but it turns out most of those are from poorly maintained public healthcare old people housings

REMercsChamp posted...

It can prevent you from being able to breathe. That's why people end up on ventilators. Any age is susceptible.

okay, thanks.

Antifar posted...

Me personally, I don't think we should sacrifice the weak.

yes same but that's another discussion. And despite that being a topic people still think it's dangerous to EVERYONE. I want to clarify if that's true

From the start nothing has been clear as experts were still trying to figure it out.

Now I feel like it truly only is dangerous for the elderly and immune weakened people. AFAIK stats keep showing the elderly are the majority of the deaths, kids are mostly unaffected, etc.

But the anxious, leftist people in my fb keep posting articles about how people who don't want to wear masks are ASSHOLES who want to kill the ELDERLY. Yet they also love posting articles about "this [non-elderly] guy doubted the DANGER of the CORONAVIRUS, got infected and DIED" and then you look at the article and it was an obese diabetic guy. It's like they WANT to be scared, they WANT to be the clever people who knew to watch out for the danger, but the facts don't seem to align?

Then the other extreme, right-ey people think this is all a big joke and the govt is just fucking around. They don't even wanna wear masks if all it does is save old people. Admittedly our government tried to pass extremely shady laws while everybody was isolating and most of the parliament couldn't even vote.

I just want the truth, I don't care which it is. IS the virus fucking dangerous to anybody but the weak? What to do from there is another discussion entirely, but I need to know if my anxious friends are over-stressing about this

Lord_Shadow posted...

This is the only good post in this topic. Lmfao

collectathons suck anymore

guesswho33 posted...

Ironically, the left did what it always does and jumped to claims of racism when there was no evidence it had to do with race. What a surprise (not) that other people have said he was wrong in other cases and it doesn't tell their race... which means we can safely assume he just acted badly to about anyone. The latest is a woman named Melissa Borton. It doesn't tell her race, but anyone who comes up in searches for that name is white... as I said from day one there was no need to turn the story into a black and white one.

Something involving someone of two races doesn't magically make it racism. Had protesters left it about brutality and not race, they would have had more people backing the narrative.

But wait... isn't it true that this usually happens to black people? That is what those celebs and CNN anchors said............ I am so surprised that is not true, either:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

That article shows that approximately twice as many white people are shot to death by police as black ones. But of course the media would have you believe it only happens to minorities. A radio host also mentioned that stats show more unarmed whites are shot by them than unarmed blacks also.

So twice as many whites are shot tod eath, but they commit less cerime, as is shown in this fact check that confirms that, as well:

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

I am not surprised that the left falls for it, but how conservatives gave in s easily and "admitted" that race is behind the brutality is pretty sad. All they had to do is look up stats, as I did, to show that the celebs are spouting out nonsense that it is "only black people" that have it happen. Not only false but by a huge amount. as are shown right in my links.

A quick google search tells me that this is the ratio of population in the USA
Black or African American: 12.6%
White: 72.4%

if, let's say a made-up number of thetotal population was 100, 5 black people got killed, and 10 white people got killed, that's still 40% blacks and 14% of whites killed

As for the fact that white people commit less crimes, it is a well known fact they are let go, excused, ignored and pardoned more than black people when it comes to crimes. Numbers will be biased to show that. To what degree, I don't know, but it's still a fact.

There is racism in law enforcement, there is zero doubt about that. There are definitely nuances as with everything, but trying to deny it is partly why society reached this point.

Halo478 posted...

The end game is to get Trump to use the insurection act and call in the army

He's already calling in the army, isn't he?

This is going to get ugly soon. But I don't wish for the protests to stop. Things must change...

Normally, changes are made in laws and procedures by the government when people won't stop rioting, but...

with the absolute racist, selfish, egoistical big baby at the head of the US govt, no change will ever come from up top.

So is the end game just protesters being massacred? This is all quite depressing tbh

Zangulus posted...

Toddlers are the most accurate marksmen ever, it's scary.

More likely this happens commonly all over the country but they just shoot the wall or furuniture, the parents get angry and seize the gun and put it away and nobody hears about it except in the next redneck family reunion as an anecdote

Big_Gold posted...

I would get incredibly insecure and insist on leaving while grabbing my girl's arm. Exerting my dominance over her would make me feel like a man again. Then I would say that she was thinking about the guy from the gym when she refused to have sex with me. After the breakup I would spend most of my money on steroids, pec implants, and prostitutes.

Did I do sarcasm right?

lmfao

bump

joe40001 posted...

When I am angry I do unhealthy things, but not because they make me happier. But because the world tells me I "should" be a certain way, and I'm so mad at how the world has treated me and how shit my life has been that I want to say "fuck you" to the world, and the only way I can do that is by over eating or over drinking or whatever.

Like right now I've been trying to make this game for a game jam and it's taking 10x as long as it should have, and I'm so mad because why can't things just be as simple as they should be? I've spent almost 6 hours on it and it's absolute shit. And I set out with the simple goal of make very small ok game crazy fast. But it's shit, and it will always be shit, and even if it wasn't shit like my last game, nobody will care like my last game. And so I'm pissed. I have no agency over anything.

And so now what? What can I do but be mad? I can say "fuck you world" and eat food even though I'm not hungry and I know I've eaten enough it won't make me feel better. What the fuck else can I do? I feel like I got slapped hard across the face for having aspirations in the first place and now what options do I have but feel powerless or say "fuck you world" and do some gesture that won't mean anything but at least let me feel like I said fuck you world.

Wait are you me?

I'm just like you. Wait until you try to ACTUALLY release a game on a store (Steam, Google Play...). It's HELL and I can't understand how it's spammed with so many shitty games when it feels like it takes a fucking degree just to go through that bureaucratic / technological maze when all you wanted was to publish your fucking game. And then you learn about Privacy Policies. And then you try to google your issues and you get 3 different answers and none of them work. And then you write to Support and you get no response.

Legit I got so mad, at how complicated it was vs. how SIMPLE it should be that the sheer rage itself is wiping all form of focus in my brain. I couldn't try again for days and it kept me from sleeping. So yeah I know them feels.

As for the actual psychological explanation, my theory is this. When you're disappointed you get a drop in dopamine. If you're already low on that - say if you got ADD, like me, or if you're tired, or in caffeine comedown, or all these answers - your brain can't take the pain of disappointment and tries to boost itself with anger. I read somewhere that anger mimics the effect of cocaine, so yeah. It gives an actual high. This explains focusing so much anger on something irrationally ("the universe is doing this shit on purpose so fuck all of it") because the other option is darkness and despair. Eating shitty food also gives you back some satisfaction (easy dopamine again).

You can criticize yourself for acting this way if you want but personally I think it's necessary sometimes. Sometimes life just sucks and you have to "get back at it" just to go back to a livable state. If you have ADD it's especially hard to manage your emotions. Just keep some form of general control and steer clear of addictions like alcohol and sugar. Once when mad is okay, a habit is definitely not good and will just fuck up your next projects even worse.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

For me it's the texture more than the taste. Almost always because every fast food place on the planet puts WAY too much on there. I swear they take a fucking ice cream scooper and just glop that shit on there.

oh yeah no. It's good like in a club sandwich or with fries

for fries even better mixed with something. Like garlic.

berlyman101 posted...

Gotta get the good shit with an avocado oil base.

That sounds delicious

It's the combination of fat with acid. One of very basic taste combos.

You like Pizza? Then you like the fat of the cheese with the acid of the tomato. So how can you not like mayo? Stop FOOLING YOURSELF.

The PRAYZDAYNT said it wuhks

yeah and if someone coughs on your pants and you come home and rub your pants on your sofa then touch your sofa then bring your hand to your mouth you can theoretically catch the virus anyway.

But you can't tell people complicated things. We're talking about people who stopped buying corona beer because of the crisis.

Your hands are the majority of the danger when coming from outside and touching contaminated surfaces

Wait this is from an actual video? I saw it as an animation like a week or two ago.

Now that I know it's popular, I don't like it anymore >: ( fuck TikTok!

Wii_Shaker posted...

I don't really get "upset" unless a person is being irrational, in which case I get frustrated by their ignorance.

It really depends on what they are criticizing about the game and whether it is fair.

Saying a game sucks without providing examples why is not a fair criticism and the person should be called on their bullshit.

Understandably, but you haven't really answered the question. What makes it so you can't just ignore it and go by your day? Are you afraid that non valid criticism left unchecked will lead to bad things for the developers or the industry in general and affect the games you will play in the future? Or do you just not like when people are blatantly wrong and do you feel a need to defend the Truth in general, whether the topic is gaming or not?

Anyone can just rally behind what you say, that they want to correct someone for being wrong, but everybody arguing thinks the other person is wrong, so that alone is not bringing much to the table... even if your criteria for someone being wrong are better thought out than most. I want to know if people are capable of determining why they get into internet fights and how many just have knee-jerk reactions once they're triggered.

"it's annoying" is not an answer. The question is why do you find it annoying

Well?

oh my fucking god

lmfao

This shit gotta be staged tho, I mean what if an elderly gets a heart attack and it kills them? I wouldn't do that shit to people I don't know

So does she have BPD or not

DrizztLink posted...

The thing is it doesn't really matter what you think, you don't get to decide nomenclature.

Okay then I stand educated and I apologize for my drunk bullshit topic

With that said...

Playing crybaby victims deflecting the topic while we're actually tackling a social issue here really speaks to your characters

You are accomplishing nothing new by just recycling fights that take place again and again on social media forever, while I'm trying to change TC's mind concretely about actually taking action over time instead of recycling fights that take place again and again on social media forever

Can I get your angry opinions on that now?

The23rdMagus posted...

"Trans women" is a start for non-slur terms, since you're asking...

I would think trans refers to someone who is actually changing sex.

Shemales making porn movies are pefectly content with being in between the two as far as I know

But well I can admit if I'm wrong, I'm just surprised

RebelElite791 posted...

Says the guy who just made another topic solely to troll and make fun of an entire group of people with bigoted slurs. Fuck off lmao

How the fuck is shemale a bigoted slur? What else do you actually call them? Educate me

Afterwards go fuck yourself you little crybaby shit

EffectAndCause posted...

So murder is justified if humans benefit?

Yes. Life is cruel but we must not only eat, but live a decent lifestyle. If that includes eating meat, so be it.

I cannot wait for the day meat is made in laboratories though, and we have to stop killing animals. I am fully aware of the hypocrisy of liking animals but eating meat, even chicken.

The truth is that life sucks too much to be worth me cutting all meat off my menu, and I'm not the only one. You can bitch @ me all you want for being an asshole, but if you truly want to make a change over time, vow to make life for people better.

Advocate guillotine for corrupted leaders so we can replace them with better ones until money stops leaking and we can give the people good quality of life. Then invest in research for satsifactory meat substitutees.

Bitching at meat eaters is accomplishing nothing, even if you are "right". You have to think pragmatically at this point.

Everytime I go look for porn to share with my bro, I stumble on shemales

Goddamn, if you like dick, stop pussying out and trying to middle it between the two to feel "not gay", men dick are perfectly okay to look at

My brother developed it when I was like 12 and he was 18 after smoking too much pot and a traumatizing experience (failed college + girlfriend left him right after they got a kid)

He'd wake me up at night, screaming loudly verses of the bible holding them rigdly with the voice of a prophet, and hissing at me when I came to tell him to shut up

Then it was a lot of rambling about demons and pacing around whispering verses whenever there was a family gathering.

I think he's better now but it ruined his life. He's in a care house rn, not really accomplishing anything at all

This scared me away from doing hard drugs, although the link is not 100% proven

I can't stop myself from smirking at the sight of the microphone set up just to record a rabbit eating a carrot up close

Wow THAT is not OKAY I am outRAGED

...aaah that felt good. Thanks. This is why I come here.

Yes it's fun stuff.
I wake up after 5h sleep then can't go back to sleep. Can't focus on anything, fall asleep at 3 PM then get fucked up for days.

I am so over this fucking bullshit

MrToothHasYou posted...

I dunno, if I remember correctly she bones down with that wizard dude prior to getting transformed so that would still count, right?

I guess so, but I think he was already manipulating her

JTilly posted...

she is deformed tho, and i believe it was ep 3

I know it's just, literally being transformed because of magic feels different to me than pushing the trope that you can still get laid if ur ugly

ssjevot posted...

In general shows tend to be optimistic because people don't tend to like negative escapism. Most criminals aren't caught, people don't recover or die from diseases, accidents, etc. But shows tend to focus on positive things. No one wants to watch an incel detective dying of terminal cancer fail to catch a murderer.

Yeah but somehow people loved GoT and it was about people failing and dying constantly

I could never get into it. Call me a pussy but I already have so much negativity irl I don't need to watch people suffer for 1 hour

JTilly posted...

the witcher

idk if yennefer counts lol