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playing a DnD video game can let you fulfull the fantasy of all the party members paying attention and knowing how to play

Same can be said about playing a TTRPG solo.

And that way, you get to use the full amount of content from the entire game line, plus homebrew, and have any sort of campaign you want, instead of only being able to play with whatever the video game developers managed to code into the game.
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You might as well argue that arrows are limited because the number of trees in the world are limited at any given time, that one person would die before they could cut down those trees, etc.

You seriously arguing that it should be just as likely for your archer to simply run out of arrows in their quiver as it is for all arrows in the world to suddenly not exist?

And you say I'm being asinine...
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Ah, so you are yourself arguing from a place of asininity.

Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just quoting 5e's rules.

But how is it "asinine" to say an archer can't just infinitely reuse the same arrows?

Also, any DM that makes 5gp a rare amount of income is by default a terrible DM.

I never said arrows are rare, I said they're limited, as opposed to Eldritch Blast, which is literally unlimited and self-reloading.
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Arrows are limited...That's your reasoning? It's 1gp for a quiver of 20 arrows, and IIRC their weight is minimal.

You give your players infinite gold? If not, then yes, arrows are in fact limited.

You could spend 5gp to dump 100 arrows into a backpack.

That shouldn't fit. At most, you should only be able to have three quivers equipped at a time, but even that's a bit of a stretch and assuming the character isn't carrying much else.

Maybe you could have a hireling carrying around extra ammo like a golf caddy.

Afterward, all but the most asinine of DMs will assume that you replenish the quiver after the fight.

5e's rules clearly state that you can only recover half the arrows you shoot, if you spend a minute after the battle gathering them up.
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If you don't like fighting, or dungeon crawling, why are you playing a system where 99% of character abilities are tied directly to fighting or dungeon crawling?

Why not play something like FATE, or GURPS?
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You sure you don't want to stick around on CE?
With all the bitching, whining, and the undeserved superiority complex, you fit right in.

Hey hey, now, settle down.
I was personally invited here by the TC.
I do believe that makes my superiority complex quite deserved.

Yuk yuk yuk.

Also, I'm still waiting for someone to be triggered by my AMP count. Only then will my journey into this forbidden land be completed. I've gotta get the full CE experience, or I'm leaving a bad review on Yelp.
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Unlimited Magic Missiles? ... Good grief. As if being a level 12 Wizard wasn't already jacked up enough.

If you had infinite Magic Missile, why would you ever cast any other spell? The game would be so boring.
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Warlocks are limited in their spell slot selection and almost no one takes short-rests like they're supposed to, so that's what they're left with
The feat 'Pole-Arm Master" makes them so much better than pretty much any other weapon
Rapiers are the best dex weapon
Etc.

5E has all kinds of things that end up limiting choices unless you willingly take a downgrade, this isn't a bad thing

LOL, I can't tell if this post is supposed to be satire or not. It really hits the nail on the head, though.

"5e, the system where you either play as a buffed up, min-maxed character who does the same damn thing every round - or you deliberately gimp your character just so that the game can have a semblance of variety and challenge."

This always struck me as a silly double standard. No one complains when an archer spams arrows from their Longbow, or a Rogue chooses Crossbow Expert and spams bolts.

I don't know about you, but yes, I'd definitely complain if the best thing my archer could do was just make a standard attack each round, which is exactly what Eldritch Blast users seem to always do. At the very least, if I'm having to use a bow all the time, I at least would try called shots or something to make it interesting.

Also, arrows are limited, Eldritch Blast isn't. Right off the bat, that fact alone means that arrows are going to be inherently more tactically interesting to use. Using Eldritch Blast is just playing the game using an infinite ammo cheat code.
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For a second there I was considering whipping out a, "And you say I can't read?"

Stop the presses, this just in! A conflict on CE ended peacefully!
LOL

Sorry, @Gwwak . I guess this is like finding a turd at the bottom of your popcorn bag after you've already ate most of it.
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???

... Can't tell if that was an attempt at humor or not.
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I'm impressed that you admitted that.

No hard feelings then. Peace.
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Mojo:
I've said positive things, and you have said negative things. You're the one with too much salt, buddy.

Also Mojo:
I'm happy you don't post here. Go back where you came from, tbh. Sorry to infect CE with you

~=~

you need that special parking

Like I said, you're just fucking yourself at this point.
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I wanted to know their opinion.

Really? Could have fooled me.

lol, okay, you win. if you think my responses are 'double standards' than you need that special parking

Ah, mental health insults. Yet I'm the guy being rude here? LOL at how you literally prove you're using double standards whilst simultaneously saying you're not using double standards.

If you've gotta resort to calling me mentally challenged, then I think your argument/hissy-fit/whatever-this-is doesn't really need me to debunk it anymore. You're fucking yourself at this point.

Cheers, have fun. Your popcorn is good, but you put way too much salt in it.
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I'm hyped for this game. I'm trying to keep CE up to date with it since there are others like Leanaunfurled that are interested in it

Then why'd you drag in people from a completely separate board and topic?

I'm a new fan to D&D and I took the last few people I talked about table top D&D and told them about it.

And then proceeded to bitch and moan when we dared speak our opinion on the topic.

Then you make 3 posts in a row talking shit. Like, "of course we hate 5e, why else would we be talking about 6e? lololololol"

You're twisting my words like a pissy child, but my point still stands. Why would you think people talking about 6e automatically means they must also play and/or like 5e?

I make a sarcastic post because people dunked on me for just trying to talk to them/you about a video game.

You mean like how you're dunking on me for just trying to talk to you about a video game? After you yourself specifically tagged me here for that exact purpose? Nice double standards.

Please don't tag me again in another of your obvious attempts at trolling, "little buddy".

Also, LMAO at "CElite". There's nothing "elite" about this shithole. It's just an endless string of topics engaged in ridiculous internet wars and drama feuds. It's also public, you don't even need to be a special member to post here. "Elite" my ass.
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I'm still laughing over how I specifically got called out here to share my opinion, and then got rudely shooed away like a stray dog when it turned out that I had the "wrong" opinion.

Heaven fucking forbid anyone should ever have a negative opinion about anything, am I right?

Fucking CE, this board is weird, man.
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Your dissatisfaction in them doesn't preclude other people's enjoyment of them.

Never claimed that it did.

And I actually like Fallout 1 and 2 quite a bit. They're original products, so I can appreciate them, but playing a limited D&D video game after I've already played actual D&D would just feel odd to me. Like I'm unnecessarily settling for something lesser when I could instead be playing the real thing. But that's just me.
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@gwwak , you like CE drama. Come get a load of this.
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I'm happy you don't post here. Go back where you came from, tbh. Sorry to infect CE with you

And you call ME rude...

At least I know Kanye can read

???

............ The fuck does this have to do with ANYTHING in this topic?
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It was this rude comment, tbh.

Now you're just deliberately trying to be offended just so you can play the victim card.

Jeez.... this is why I don't visit this board. Full of snowflakes and trolls.
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The original BG games are not 5e, I thought you all might have liked them.

No you didn't. Or you would've said as much. You're just shifting gears now. Your intention with this topic was obviously to talk about BG 3.

And for the record, I don't really understand the original BG games either, for largely the same reasons as I listed above. Why play a gimped video game version of D&D when you could instead play actual D&D? Even playing the D&D TTRPG solo with yourself would make more sense to me then playing a limited video game version.
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LOL, talk about zero to a hundred instantly!

You called me here, remember? And then you flip out when I share my thoughts on the topic? I don't even usually come to this board.

What a snowflake, jeez...
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Anyway, on Topic, I can't imagine how this video game would actually work. I mean, we've already pointed out how limited 5e is, and that's the TABLETOP version. Video games are always going to be WAY more limited then TTRPG's.

Just imagine a video game RPG where there's only 12 classes (assuming they actually ship the game with all the TTRPG's content) and each of them have next to no features or abilities whatsoever. With spell slingers whose best option is to just spam the same one spell over and over. LMAO, even the SNES Final Fantasy games can boast a better combat system then that! What are Fighters going to do? Just move up to an enemy and spam the attack button? Yeah, that sounds fun, for maybe ten minutes...

At least in the tabletop version of 5e, you can try to ignore the rules and pull off cool tricks and called shots or whatever, if your DM allows it, but no video game is going to be able to do handle that amount of improvisation.
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Theo was asking about 6th Edition

Asking about 6e equals playing 5e?
If anything, someone asking about 6e kinda implies that they don't like 5e.
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I don't play 5th - I tried, and found it too restrictive and limited to hold my attention

No kidding.

Take spells for example. Across the entire line of 5e books, there's only something like 492 spells. Occult Philosophy - which is just one book for the Shadow of the Demon Lord TTRPG - has over 800 spells in it. And if you use all of of SotDL's books, there's a total of just over 1,500 spells in the game.

I mean flipping hell, that's outright embarrassing for 5e! Why does it have so few spells? Thanks to that, almost every Warlock just uses Eldritch Blast all the time. Same thing with Clerics and Toll the Dead. That gets boring really fucking quick.

There's little to no spell variety between magic-users in 5e, especially ones who belong to the same class. All 5e Wizards are just glorified pallette swaps of each other, there's no real variety or distinctive character options to set them apart.

In SotDL, magic-users have tons upon tons of options to set them apart from each other, just based off the amount of spells in the game alone. But then if you also consider how classes and magic traditions work in SotDL, you're looking at a system that has almost literally infinite possibilities for magic-user builds.
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Definitely is an odd summon list. Unless I'm remembering wrong, Marozi and jw91 don't really play much 5e either.
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I don't really play 5e much anymore, it's boring.

I vastly prefer Shadow of the Demon Lord.
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LMAO, when will these Current Event jokers stop thinking anything over a hundred AMP is something ta blink at?

Jeez, you can easily end up with well over a thousand by simply posting 1-10 times per day, especially if it's on slow boards.

Just look at my AMP and compare it ta my posting history if you don't believe me. Nearly two thousand, yet I barely post anything.
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This board is an absolute joke.

I'm sitting here trying to figure out how in the fuck anyone would take any of this seriously.

Preschoolers honestly have more compelling playground arguments then this shitshow.

Get a life, jeez. Literally anything, ANYTHING, would be better then this. Go poke dog turds with sticks or something.
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