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JigsawTDC posted...

There There by Tommy Orange.

I couldn't get into this book. Might be the worst book I've read in recent memory. There are just too many characters to be given anything but a superficial treatment in the 300 pages or so allotted to them. Personality development is very shallow, and they're all messed up of course. Is it too boring for a novel to feature a couple grounded, well-adjusted characters?

This shallowness is also found in the notion that this book is a great account of the "urban Indian." Nope, it isn't. Although it's true that most Native Americans live in cities and not Reservations, so many still have strong connections to the Rez: relatives are still there, growing up happened there, Reservation landscapes are essential to spirituality and identity. None of this is present in "There There." It's as though these people sprang into existence ex nihilo. They have little or no backstory. For an excellent "urban Indian" novel from a much, much better writer, read "The Hiawatha" by David Treuer.

Finally, the ending of "There There" is simply bizarre, even ridiculous (spoiler alert). Some of the characters try to rob a Powwow, and for no apparent reason one of them starts shooting another, who returns fire, and in the shootout nearly all of the characters are hit. Mr. Orange prefers coyness to closure and does not indicate who lives and who dies. What's the point?

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Unbridled9 posted...

DBH can be summarized as 'Robots are Black People. Slavery is bad and you needed an entire narrative to remember that, MY ANALOGY IS SUBTILE AND I AM ARTSY!'

Are you so fragile that this is what you came away with while playing that game? The game is angling more for a Blade Runner vibe in "What defines a human? Can androids ever be human, or gain true autonomy? Should androids be allowed to self-govern (to be free)?"

That you feel the game boils down to "robots are black people" is more damning of you than your summary is of the game.

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It's contested whether the checks are being delayed. What's absolutely true is that the checks haven't been delivered yet, and Trump's name will be on them. Not fake news.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

no he doesnt.

Of beating Trump? Maybe not.

Of pulling more of the moderate vote than Sanders can? Absolutely. You're naive if you think otherwise.

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Raddest_Chad posted...

The DNC hates Bernie because they're pricks and he's a hero, but they really need to pass the nom to anyone but Biden.

Bernie would push the moderate vote straight over to Trump. Biden has a fighting chance of winning over the moderates. I'm fairly certain this is Trump's election to lose, but Biden has a better shot of beating Trump than Sanders. No doubt in my mind on that.

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hungrymike posted...

I'm not a conservative big guy

Never said you were?

Only agreed with the other poster that there's been an uptick in conservatives who get offended over every little thing.

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Marcster1994 posted...

Really, because conservatives in recent years have been the biggest snowflakes of all.

I guess Revelation and hungrymike didn't get the memo.

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Revelation34 posted...

People protesting against that aren't SJWs.

Snowflakes come from all walks of life. It's not limited to SJWs.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Mystery Men

Fantastic movie.

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