Lurker > Ultima Dragon

I literally have not heard one sensible argument from your side. It's just "Stay the fuck at home," "lololol look at how stupid these guys are!" "MAH FREEDUMBS MAH HAIRCUTS MAH APPLEBEES" and other asinine bullshit like that.

Not one single person is proposing a solution. Just hide in your house indefinitely and everything will magically sort itself out.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

TommyG663513 posted...

So you are very willfully ignorant then.

Kindly explain to me how. This isn't going to go away without a vaccine. Do you propose that none of us leave our houses until then, personal futures, livelihood, and global economy be damned?

I'm interested in hearing how the logistics of this work, and how you expect millions of people worldwide to not starve to death in the meantime.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Also, why is it a meltdown when I do it, but when you guys do it it's just business as usual?

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Secretly posted...

Why's this Ultima Dragon guy having a meltdown?

It's 'cause I haven't spoken to your mother in a while. You should tell her to give me a call, I miss her.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Doom_Art posted...

you can say that again

OMGLOL #REKT

Come on Libs, get in here for this circlejerk!

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Vermander posted...

Ultima was catching a lot of flak, but his logic was pretty sound in some ways.

We were never in lockdown, because people (especially Americans) are entitled. To combat this properly when the virus first started spreading martial law should have been imposed. This is dark but the reality nothing short of gunpoint is going to stop every single human being from going outside. The the nightclub incident proves that even if 118/119 of you stay in isolation, the 1/119 ruins the whole batch. This is like telling a student in high school if that one kid with behavioral health issues doesnt behave none of you will graduate; of course people are getting pissed and just wanna leave him behind.

Of course you also need to factor in the fact that the longer this is drawn out the more businesses and families suffer financially, as well as get emotionally stir crazy, which causes them act out in riots, defiance, and after awhile complete and utter apathy. As a result of this actually locking down becomes even more impossible.

At this point the virus is too spread and true lockdowns arent going to happen. The people who are still in favor at lockdown are basically the equivalents of the guys in a zombie movie who want to stay bunkered in a room with no food or supplies because as soon as they open the door they will fight zombies, but on top of that guilt and derail others for wanting to fight for their life instead of just accepting its over.

Ive also noticed in general the people in favor of lockdown were people with more solitary lives, or people who are either being made whole by government or are still working. The reality is though the government cannot (Or wont) continue to finance our existence. New York as an example has already ran out of state funding.

While protecting human lives is important we need to also consider the impacts and other factors resulting from the lockdown. This is not to say there should not be precautions and we should open freely to fo as we please, but hiding in our houses is not fixing the problem either, and some states that have opened have seen very stable numbers.

lol I have nothing to add but ur stupid enjoy ur cooties loser

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

JFK also allegedly said something like "I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind."

His assassination was a real "Who Shot JR/Mr. Burns" style whodunit. There were probably a lot of people who thought he was better off dead or had something personal against him. Oswald's motivations were not entirely clear and he may have just been a patsy. The whole Jack Ruby thing was also very weird, a bit like tying up loose ends.

Either that, or they were just pretty careless with how they did things back then lol.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

Do... do people not know what asymptomatic means? Or realize their virus can spread to others and even then others and then infect anyone, even those at risk? Its not about being afraid of getting it themselves. Its about lowering the risk of all other people and keeping the hospitals from being overrun. But okay, enjoy your overpriced beer because your civil liberties are being taken away from you while contributing more to the problem.

If you are at risk you shouldn't be out. If you are in charge of taking care of someone that is at risk then you shouldn't be out either.

Doom_Art posted...

it's almost as if opening prematurely was a dumb idea

Opening short of anything other than a functional vaccine being available to all is "premature." So again. Either stay at home for a year or more, or accept that life isn't risk free and continue to live with whatever precautions you see fit.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Fucking China is getting hit again and they literally welded people inside their homes. Had people in biohazard suits spraying harsh chemical disinfectants over all the streets and buildings. Rumoured to have had mobile crematoriums to dispose of any infected bodies. They did this for months. Strict, no bullshit quarantines by an oppressive tyrannical regime (just like you guys wanted).

What did it accomplish? Fuck all.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

AFrench2 posted...

What? That's not how virus' work, dude. If every last infected person had been quaranteed to a T the past 60 days, the virus would have no where to go. It would bounce around the walls of the person's house and fall flat and die.

It will mutate for sure - and come back at some point - but it won't be a pandemic like we saw this time due to Chinese New Year and all the travel

That's the point. At no point has everything been closed. People are still going for weekly or daily grocery store runs. Infecting each other. Ordering food delivered from restaurants that could have been prepared by infected people. Medical services are still open and treating patients, getting infected themselves, and infecting each other and others.

If we're in total lockdown and having people in biohazard suits deliver food and bottled water to us, and having literal plague doctors going to people's houses to treat the sick you might have a point. But there's no amount of time that is going to pass where we have ZERO people with the infection. If even one person has it, it's going to spread exponentially.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

TommyG663513 posted...

This type of mindset is pretty ignorant of how a contagious virus works.

The reality is that individual choices very much effect other people in a situation like this. "You do you and I do me" is only valid if our decisions have no effect on each other.

It doesn't. All I'm hearing you people saying is "Don't go out because you might get me sick when I decide to go out."

If your health is at risk then you have no business being out and about, period. That's asinine.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

As soon as lockdowns are relaxed, the flood gates are open. Until there's a vaccine it doesn't matter what we do, it's going to spread like wildfire anyway. We are merely delaying the inevitable.

So again, if you're scared or at risk, continue to stay at home. You aren't at risk for infection if you stay at home and take proper precautions.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

GregShmedley posted...

Thank you for posting--was debating about providing more examples of stupidity.

This virus isn't going to go away because you hide in your house for a few months. The WHO says it may never go away. Reduce the spread? Sure. But when ONE person in a nightclub setting can infect 149+ others in one evening, the choice is clear. Either live your life while accepting that life isn't risk free, or hide in your home indefinitely until a vaccine is made available. If you want to do the latter, do it. No one is stopping you.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

GregShmedley posted...

It's frightening how stupid these people are.

I don't see what's objectively stupid about it. If you are afraid or at risk, continue self-isolation and don't worry about what healthy people are doing. They are not going to hurt you if you keep to yourself. Forcing other people to suffer because of a choice you want to make for yourself is such a "crabs in a bucket" mentality.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Imagine if Trump answered questions like this, lol.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Southernfatman posted...

It's a trap a lot of shows fall into. Everyone gets so exaggerated that they almost seem like different characters. I think the only show that had that work for it was It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia.

Yeah. I miss when they were a genuine family with values and love for each other. They would tell stories that would tug at your heart strings and make you really care about the characters. Then it basically devolved into "I wonder what wacky, unrealistic adventures Homer and Bart will get into this week?"

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

I think it's probably bullshit for the record, but it's amazing to see Dems go from #believeallwomen to going all out on trying to discredit any woman that makes an accusation against their guy.

I guess values only apply when you've got something to gain from it.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Anything that actually works is going to be extremely illegal or extremely harmful, or both. >_>

People have used the ECA stack with a good deal of success in the past. That's ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin. Most people have dropped the aspirin for decades because nobody seems to know what it's for (lol) in regards to the actual weight loss. The other two speed up your metabolism and ephedrine can suppress the appetite. It's not a miracle that's going to melt fat off you while you sit on the couch. You still need to cut calories and exercise, but it can help kick you in the ass a bit and hopefully eat a bit less. Availability of ephedrine will depend on where you're at. Here in Canada you can buy mass quantities of it from any health food/supplement store pretty much. In the States you might need to ask behind the counter for "psuedoephedrine" or Sudafed which is typically used for nasal congestion.

It's not great to be on speedy stuff like that but it's been used by thousands of people safely for quite some time. There's at least one report of a 20-something year old athlete having a heart attack on it which got it banned in the US (I believe). But there's a lot of questions there. Did he have underlying heath conditions? Was he taking like a suicide dose of it? Was he mixing it with other stuff? That kind of thing. If you decided to try it, obviously listen to your body and if you feel sick while on it either reduce the amount you're taking or stop taking it altogether.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Literally just stay at home until there's a vaccine if you're that scared, lol. Not all of us have mommy and daddy six figures to house and feed us for the next several years.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Had it for a long time, my brother was the one that told me about it. Seems oddly unknown considering how easy it is to install and use.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Romes187 posted...

#6: Reelin' In The Years
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaH25Sghoqc

Okay so this is probably one you've heard if you've heard any Steely Dan. I think this was the biggest hit on the Can't Buy A Thrill album.

First, let's talk about that intro solo. I believe Elliot Randall is the guitarist there and it's so tasty. It's one of my favorite little solos to play on the guitar. The swing-y background holds it all together. The solo later on is amazing as well and Donald Fa*an's vocals work perfectly.

Lyrically, it's typical SD stuff. Favorite:

The weekend at the college
Didn't turn out like you planned
The things that pass for knowledge
I can't understand

Those last two lines are something I think about all the time lately haha.

Rating: 10/10 its a radio hit, but man is it good.

The guitar tone on this song is one of the most polarizing for guitar players, I find. Some think it sounds amazing, others think it sounds like he's trying to play through a kazoo lol. I think I read once that the guitarist came into the studio and they had a bass amp there and he just plugged straight into that and played, maybe just cranked the amp up and that's it? Which is weird to me because it sounds a bit like a fuzz pedal is being used or something else. The bass amp part isn't that weird because it wasn't uncommon for guitarists to play through the Fender Bassman and it was later repurposed as a guitar amp too.

Obviously some great leads either way, and a very fun driving bassline.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Kolibri X posted...

Crippling your children's future with asinine lockdowns to save boomers. Way to go CA. So progressive and enlightened once again.

Not even boomers. More like the Silent Generation, and ones that have a life expectancy of about five months in a nursing home at that.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Purple_Cheetah posted...

Crabs

They're like pets that you can carry around town with, and no one will bother you wanting to pet them.

I heard the crabs market took quite a hit after everyone started shaving their pubes.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

WaterLink posted...

This is why commitments are best. Find you a girl thats clean and on solid BC and yall can just go to town. Condoms suck, and even a lot of women admit they the way condoms feel, it's not just men.

It also smells like a rubber factory after you're done going to town, lol.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

The_Creep_2020 posted...

If fully functioning male contraceptives were developed with no negative effects, would you take them?

I don't see why not? Takes the burden of responsibility off the woman, then if shit happens I only have myself to blame.

I think I'd risk getting turned into a eunuch by the ones they have out now though, lol. I know women's BC can have some potentially nasty side effects too, but they're leagues ahead of what's been proposed for men so far.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Sex? Eh, I would say it depends on how long it's been. If I'm in the middle of the dry spell to end all dry spells, I'm pretty sure I'd don a full body hazmat suit if I could get a crack at some pussy lol.

I don't think I could be in a long-term relationship with a woman that wasn't on the pill or an IUD or something. Condoms during sex really kill a lot of the spontaneity and intimacy/sensation of it all (although could still be worth it depending on your situation).

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Burger thickness is such a weird thing to be elitist about, lol.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

I hear people shitting on BK all the time, but here in Canada they're actually pretty good. Some of the best quality and value in fast food.

Opposite for McD's. They are heavily praised in the US, but my experiences with them here are often disappointing and I put them as low-tier fast food.

Wendy's is somewhere in between. I find them really good for chicken (spicy chicken, strips) and pretty good for burgers too. Fries are pretty bad tbh.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

AvantgardeAClue posted...

How about instead of poison, the unlucky M&M causes you to be struck by lightning. Those odds are are literally one in a million. People eat from that bowl anyways every day.

Not an apt comparison? Neither is the Coronavirus analogy, where apparently there's a 0.18655309% chance in New Jersey where I'm from, and that's the second worst-case state.

Point I'm getting at, this analogy doesn't work that well, sorry.

The thing I'm having a hard time figuring out, is how the fuck did people ever leave the house before any of this? You're chancing death literally every time you step out your front door. It's a calculated risk that you weigh and take precautions against, but ultimately you need to live your life and earn your keep.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

This is what I feel is the most logical explanation. Any UFOs that are seen are probably just black budget tech.

Anything could be possible though. Especially if you consider the possibility of a species having billions of years of evolution on us. Maybe they've been here before. Maybe they never left. Maybe they're inter or extra dimensional beings. Maybe they are us, but from the future (sounds lol-worthy but it's a plausible theory according to one model of space travel). Maybe we're in an alien simulation right now. There's so many things to contemplate or imagine.

Our understanding of physics could also be totally wrong or we could have major holes in it. Like how we use dark matter and dark energy to explain the vast majority of the universe which isn't observable to us.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

ChocoboMogALT posted...

That's the worst written do-whilen loop one ever seen.

Ah shit, I've just had a stroke.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

More like the bowl of M&Ms is the only food you have and the only food you'll have for a while. Then it's an apt comparison.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Sweet_Melon posted...

So why can most European countries support their people for 2 months but the US can't for even a month?

The US can, but they won't. That's the point. The only person looking out for you is you. Sitting at home indefinitely like a silent protest isn't going to change the way the government and world elites operate. They don't give a shit if you die in your home. Or on the street. Or wherever.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

BatmanWTtP posted...

If only we had a government that actually took care of its citizens instead of the airline industry

Yeah, and if magical fairies came down from the heavens and gave me the power to fly I wouldn't need the airlines to begin with.

Edit: Calling for indefinite lockdown hoping that the governments and billionaires of the world will pool all their money together to absolve you of all your debts and responsibilities for life is asinine. It's the equivalent of going on a permanent hunger strike and starving to death because nobody gives a shit about you.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

MisterPorn posted...

So what exactly is the end point for those that want the shutdown to keep going? Are they aiming for rest of the year? Let's say you want things shut down at least another month. How are people going to pay their bills/food?

You don't. You just die in your home and smile knowing you were a martyr for a better cause and that your selfish actions didn't lead to the deaths of millions.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

gamer167 posted...

As much as people should be wearing masks while being in close vicinity of other people, if youre immune system is compromised you should probably stay yah ass home to begin with.

This. Why are you putting yourself at risk in the first place? Money and freedom is not as important as your health and safety.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

That blows my mind, lol.

Like.. does anyone still use them to make new websites? Do people still visit old sites that were made using them?

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

I'm afraid that's not enough. I hope you also have a military grade biohazard suit, have thoroughly disinfected everything and also have a large number of oxygen tanks on standby so you don't have to actually breathe the air in your house.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Sewage posted...

Do you ever make a post that makes sense? We are past the fucking peak and had a lock down. This virus was always going to go down, seeing it do so now isn't proof of anything. New York is opening up too, that doesn't change that they last tons and tons of people every single day, things were always going to come down but you didn't want that peak to be super high up. Even if we did nothing, the cases would eventually fall, what the lockdown achieved was to not have a massive peak where hospitals would be over run to the point that we would need to pick and choose who to let live and who to let die. That's the point. Yes hospitals were still over run, but not as much as they would have been without measures taken.

If the virus is infectious enough to the point where ONE person can infect 119 at a nightclub then it literally doesn't really matter what we do. Relaxing the lockdown is going to be opening the flood gates no matter what, it's just a matter of seeing what happens next.

Edit: We're not getting down to zero cases no matter what, not even with martial law, welding people into their homes and spraying the streets and buildings with disinfectant like China did (who surprise, surprise.. is seeing another outbreak).

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Hexenherz posted...

You know it can take 14+ days for a case to become symptomatic, right?

Hence why I said it's too early to say one way or another. If in another month we have thousands more dead on our hands we'll know it was a bad idea.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Knowledge_King posted...

Do you know how percentages work? No matter how high the number seems when looked at raw, the percentage is the important part. If 99% survive, then the threat is...not a threat.

Also it's much less than 1% from what I've seen. Closer to .1 or less.

This also assumes a 100% infection rate across the total population and equivalent severity of infections.

You can't look at a population of 328 million and say "3.28 million people are going to die! It could be any one of us!"

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

It's too soon to say one way or another, but this is the sort of thing that I wanted to keep an eye on. If their numbers aren't significantly worse than the places that remain on lockdown then what was the point?

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

I get it but be prepared to have no female friends ever is this is how you're gonna act lol. Not trying to be a dick but it's true. They got people blowing up their phone at all hours of the day. If you're not her boyfriend you're probably going to get pushed to the back burner and she might forget to get back to you later.

Even I do this sometimes if I'm not in the mood to text at the time or I'm feeling too tired to give a proper response.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

BatmanWTtP posted...

Do you really believe that this is a possibility?

Here's a question for you. Why is the Patriot Act still actively being utilized to spy on every American citizen? Why are the TSA measures still in place? Do you believe the threat of a new 9/11 or Al Queda/ISIS in your own backyard is looming just around the corner?

There's a reason they toss around the phrase "the new normal" so casually.

Edit: How hard is it to say "We must continue wearing the masks to prevent future outbreaks and reduce the severity of those outbreaks." Followed by:

"We know the masks are working because we have not seen any major outbreaks since mask use was mandated by law."

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

BatmanWTtP posted...

Do you really believe that this is a possibility?

It is if we allow it to be. I think it's foolish to trust the government and the foot soldiers they employ to always act in good faith and have our best interests at heart. That's why I don't agree with making these things law, because those laws are very rarely ever repealed.

How do you think China got to where it is today? That shit didn't just happen overnight.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

BatmanWTtP posted...

Ah yes, the oppression of having to wear a mask in public during a pandemic

I understand that you believe it's sensible to wear a mask during a pandemic, because it is.

But making it non-optional and enforcing it with terror isn't the way to go.

It's also extremely short-sighted to think that it stops there. Remember how the Patriot Act was designed to help stop terror attacks on American soil? Sounds pretty good, right? What doesn't sound good is having it expanded upon and used to spy on all Americans for 20+ years across all devices long after the threat of terror is gone, but here we are.

What if the concept of having to wear a mask to leave your house never goes away even after the COVID-19 threat has largely died down? Is it cool to just never be able to go outside and breathe the fresh air again without the threat of fines or jail time or even violence for non-compliance?

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

I don't have a good answer for that lol. I still enjoy some pop songs today, but I feel like the industry trended more toward stripped down programmed beats and autotune rap/not really singing versus songs having more instrumentation, being more melodic and featuring talented singers.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Post Malone kinda is, imo. Not exclusively, but songs like Rockstar are kind of what I think of when I think of songs on top 40 radio today that are "meh." I actually like some Post Malone songs too for what it's worth.

I enjoyed pop a lot more in earlier decades, it's dropped off a lot for me since the mid 2010's I would say.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

Well fuck at least that makes sense. If we were to call it black and blue day, I could get it but Boxing Day sounds like "Ohhhh yeah baby put on your shopping brass knuckles and your shirt riddled with razor blades!"

I think it's actually a British thing. One of those old traditions that got adopted.

Actually, I'd say in the last 5-10 years we've been going hard with Black Friday here. It never used to be a thing, but it's been outpacing Boxing Day in recent years. We still don't really have deals like the States, but people are super into it.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz

loafy013 posted...

I have fucked up feet. Why do I have to wear shoes when going into a business?

Going into a business is different than just being out and about in a wide open space. Why should you be made to wear a mask in your car or when walking in the park? You're not hurting anybody.

If Costco (for example) says "You need a mask to shop here" I don't see an issue with this. They're a private business and they can set the rules as they see fit.

Cops hassling and tackling people on the street? That's not a road we want to go down.

If you're serious about your feet, can you not wear sandals or anything? I see people shopping with sandals all the time. I don't know of many places that would kick you out because you weren't wearing a closed toe shoe or boot.

---

"We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz