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TopicWhat will it take to have socialized healthcare?
Wanded
11/10/20 8:04:05 AM
#45
CaptainStrong posted...
Aren't I supposed to have an unalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?
yes. the idea behind our rights is that they are the things you would have in the absence of government had you were born in the wild and that do not require someone else, freedom of speech, the right to carry arms etc

Healthcare isn't a right because it requires a third party, a doctor to treat you and people to pay for said doctor to treat you.

Dynalo posted...
I'll go through this by each point in the article.

1) Yes, all health care programs have challenges. But do you know what's worse than a waiting list? Dying because you can't afford treatment. Or getting treatment anyways and then declaring bankruptcy. Waiting lists aren't even a huge concern, as patients are always seen on the basis of criticality.

2) This would be fixed by government run health care. That way, coverage would be access, because everyone would be able to access health care.

3) Why is this article written as though insurance is still in the picture? If you get rid of insurance and have health care come from taxes, that fixes the issue he pointed out about "not enough young people signed up to offset the costs". If everyone is paying into it, those cancer bills can get split across the whole system and no longer be crippling. Keep insurance out of this.

4) Again, this article is written as though Medicare is in addition to existing systems. Keep insurance out, put everyone on the same level, and all these problems don't exist. Most of the issues he listed here are because there are options besides medicare. If there weren't, medicare (or whatever the new national program is called) would have to get significantly better, and there would be pressure from the entire public to make it better, rather than just those who are currently on it.

5) Again, let's create a new and better system rather than trying to point to something old and say "I don't want that".

6) I mean, this is true. No matter what, if you institute national health care the people at the top end will not be happy. Whatever the new challenges (waiting lists or whatever) are will absolutely hurt them moreso than folks at the bottom. But no one will have to worry about dying because they caught a very treatable disease. I think that's worth the pain of some folks being unhappy.
i didn't actually read whatever is in there i just sent the first article i stumbled upon to make clench happy but to answer what you say

people aren't dying, i keep asking liberals for footage of people in dire need of medical attention where the hospital just goes "whelp no money, no treatment, bye!" and no one has yet to supply, that is because the system takes care of everyone.

the problem is the price, you said so yourself, the goal is to lower it, but you ignore that goal and instead focus on nationalized healthcare, why not try lowering the price first via a free market, tax discounts and other methods that don't destroy freedom and use force?

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TopicAnyone know a l2draw anime youtube channel that's more focused on drills?
Wanded
11/10/20 5:46:57 AM
#2
asked an artist friend of mine and he said anime and realism drawing are both built on the same base concepts so you should learn all the basic drawing skills regardless of anime first from pros on youtube

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicThe Media said Al Gore was president for over a month after Elections
Wanded
11/10/20 5:20:44 AM
#32
likehelly posted...
you confused biden for something trump did again

zeus means adding seats to the scotus

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TopicCBS Says HALF of its REALITY Casts will be MINORITIES cause WHITES keep WINNING
Wanded
11/10/20 2:37:26 AM
#7
Lokarin posted...
maybe they should stop scripting white winners, then... y'know, the ACTUAL problem


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TopicGrumps are playing Danganronpa
Wanded
11/10/20 2:32:04 AM
#54
Lokarin posted...
DANG IT(ronpa)

How do I refund the game! It just went on sale for like 75% off
lol classic ronpa, happened to me as well

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TopicI used to be with 'it',
Wanded
11/10/20 2:18:46 AM
#8
Lokarin posted...
Wanded Vs. The World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxJxAOS8peQ
worlds got nothing on me

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicThe Media said Al Gore was president for over a month after Elections
Wanded
11/10/20 2:13:25 AM
#27
Cacciato posted...
Its gotta be hard being that fucking stupid.
just saying

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicThe Media said Al Gore was president for over a month after Elections
Wanded
11/10/20 1:46:57 AM
#23
Zeus posted...
Granted
6666 karma

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TopicI think I'm gonna stop playing WRPGs on the higher difficulties.
Wanded
11/10/20 1:36:33 AM
#23
it depends on the game, some hard modes force you to play differently in a way that changes the game completely, turning some action games to stealth games for example


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TopicPokemon Mystery Dungeon > Main Pokemon games
Wanded
11/10/20 1:33:52 AM
#5
The plot and dialogue is better but gameplay wise the main series is better imo

Lokarin posted...
They could be, but they have the problem of being a Mystery Dungeon game... instead of a better roguelike
yeah i can see it surpassing the mai games but they'll have to make some changes

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicJoe Biden elected president of the United States
Wanded
11/10/20 1:25:01 AM
#169
Blightzkrieg posted...
Abandoned Kurdish allies to Turkish expansionism
You complain about trump not pulling ALL us troops from the middle east yet here you condemn him for doing just that, you can't have both

what do you think we should do about this issue? right wingers were against trump when he pulled out of that area

weird seeing you on the same side as conservatives, feels dirty lol

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicJoe Biden elected president of the United States
Wanded
11/10/20 1:18:34 AM
#168
Entity13 posted...
Buddy, if you couldn't see them already on your own, pointing to them isn't going to help you.
i asked you to begin with what facts because i have no idea what you are even talking about except being passive aggresive

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicJoe Biden elected president of the United States
Wanded
11/10/20 1:17:34 AM
#167
BlackScythe0 posted...
I'll give you props you guys usually run away.
us having a life =/= running away

it's one thing to fight one on one, but it's regularly 2-3 people vs ~15 leftists + trolls who swap in and out when they feel like it

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicJoe Biden elected president of the United States
Wanded
11/10/20 1:12:12 AM
#165
Entity13 posted...
No telling about Tomi because yeah maybe that, unless he's being facetious in which case too late. No repeating the facts, because they've been stated and ignored . . . again. Got it.
point me to them then

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TopicTrump returned to the WHITE HOUSE after learning he was FIRED to THIS!!!
Wanded
11/10/20 1:09:40 AM
#48
BADoglick posted...
refusing to denounce white supremacists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd0cMmBvqWc

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicThe Media said Al Gore was president for over a month after Elections
Wanded
11/10/20 1:04:44 AM
#20
BlackScythe0 posted...
Right now
exactly

BlackScythe0 posted...
there is no record of a recount changing over a thousand votes
there is no record of this amount of mail ins either, this election is different from any other election we had to this point due to having x10 mail ins than we usually have

BlackScythe0 posted...
when you clearly are
how so? that is a strawman

BlackScythe0 posted...
how about actually saying how you think something can change.
who said that's what i'm thinking?
i'm just saying this isn't necessarily over

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicThe Media said Al Gore was president for over a month after Elections
Wanded
11/10/20 12:58:56 AM
#19
Raddest_Chad posted...
500 votes in Florida is hardly the same situation as 2020.
The voter irregularities are also not the same as in 2000

SunWuKung420 posted...
Technology and mentalities have changed significantly in 20 years. Shame on you for failing to realize that truth.
before i respond, i wanna be sure i am getting what you are saying correctly, are you saying "what happened in 2000 wouldn't happen in 2020 because technology improved and technology blocks mistakes and mischief from happening"?


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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicJoe Biden elected president of the United States
Wanded
11/10/20 12:54:42 AM
#160
Blightzkrieg posted...
And yet he set relations in the Middle East back decades.

It's not a point in his favour, it is merely an observation. It doesn't address my point, but that's a trend with you.
wait what? brah you gotta get out of the leftist hive minds you frequent, i get some leftist complaints on trump but foreign policy was his number one area hands down, specifically because what he achieves is what the left has been crying and whining about during the entire bush and obama era for 16 years

The left wanted no more wars, trump had zero wars during his presidency. period. you can make buts and ifs all you want but you cannot say that is not true, the left wants to reduce americas presence in the world, trump did that by getting soldiers back home from abroad, republicans were against that move yet he did it anyways.
i know the left flip flops and changes their beliefs based on who's in power and based on what is convenient to them but this is too much...

trump didn't set the middle east back, he was the first president in a long time that actually made it progress, has he is responsible for historic peace deals in the region, the first peace deals which didn't involve a bloody war beforehand, and which broke the arabic worlds famous 3 no's, trump showed that the lefts consensus of the middle east is wrong, everything the left says about the middle is the opposite of the truth.

The left and the media (but i repeat myself) screamed to high heaven moving the embassy to jerusalem would usher in world war 3
Nothing happened.
The left and the media (but i repeat myself) screamed to the depths of hell announcing jerusalem as the capital of israel would light the region
Nothing happened.
The left and the media (but i repeat myself) screamed like 12 year olds on x box live recognizing the golan heights as israeli territory would start the end of days
Nothing happened.
The leftist consensus is that peace in the middle east has to do with the palestinians and appeasing iran, trump showed that is false, what DID happen is that eventually trump got arab nations to make peace deals with israel, sudan is apparantly next, a country which was involved directly in war with israel in the past.

and i know both sides like to exaggerate but i'm not doing so, the intelligence community really did tell trump that if he moves the embassy, hell would break loose, trump even had to delay the move since everybody were trying to hold him back

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicJoe Biden elected president of the United States
Wanded
11/10/20 12:11:56 AM
#158
OhhhJa posted...
We took out a target effectively and didn't precede to turn it into a multi-year conflict serving the needs of the military industrial complex. Sounds ideal and worth bragging about to me
sounds like a double win honestly

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicHave you ever heard of a gender-reveal party?
Wanded
11/10/20 12:05:29 AM
#8
doesn't matter, they have been cancelled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tANO_pd8Mno

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicThe Media said Al Gore was president for over a month after Elections
Wanded
11/10/20 12:03:50 AM
#15
JigsawTDC posted...
Take the bet Wanded! You're so confident and we can finally rid the board of RADICAL ANTIFA LEFTIST Zareth!!
why would i want one of the best examples to why the left is bad gone?

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicThe Media said Al Gore was president for over a month after Elections
Wanded
11/10/20 12:02:54 AM
#14
SunWuKung420 posted...
Are you aware of how much the world has changed in 20 years?
I don't see how that is relevant though, are you saying it is not possible in 2020 for close elections to sway after recounts and litigations? because that's what i'm talking about, not whatever it is you seem to think we're talking about.

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicThe Media said Al Gore was president for over a month after Elections
Wanded
11/09/20 11:52:38 PM
#8
SunWuKung420 posted...
According to @Wanded , 2000 is the same as 2020.
that is not something that can be concluded from what i said

JigsawTDC posted...
No, Wanded. They did not declare Gore president for over a month. Most media outlets corrected themselves pretty quickly.

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/12/666812854/the-florida-recount-of-2000-a-nightmare-that-goes-on-haunting

And it should be noted that Florida came down to less than a 1000 votes difference. No states currently have that kind of margin, so any comparison you're trying to make isn't going to stick.
"What followed was a five-week war over the ballots, the rules, the law and the courts."
something we are about to see this time as well it seems.

The media said Al Gore won for most of those 5 weeks


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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicJoe Biden elected president of the United States
Wanded
11/09/20 11:38:10 PM
#149
Blightzkrieg posted...
Are you saying acts of war in the middle East is good?

Middle Eastern politics is complex. "He didn't start wars" is a gross over simplification and also not really praise.
it's a simple statement which is true, nothing he did resulted in a war, hence, President Trump didn't start any wars.
His policy did actually result in some peace deals in the middle east though.

BlackScythe0 posted...
we are going to see the Supreme Court flip at least 3 states for no reason
where did i say that though

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicThe Media said Al Gore was president for over a month after Elections
Wanded
11/09/20 11:32:44 PM
#3
BlackScythe0 posted...
If you think the Supreme Court is going to go in and flip a minimum of 3 states without justification then your faith in this nation is far lower than mine and mine is pretty low after both Trump elections.
good thing that's not what i think then

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicJoe Biden elected president of the United States
Wanded
11/09/20 11:31:59 PM
#146
Blightzkrieg posted...
Remember when Soleimani just exploded for absolutely no reason and then the president didn't spend a disgusting amount of time bragging about it
are you saying he shouldn't have died?

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicJoe Biden elected president of the United States
Wanded
11/09/20 11:31:17 PM
#145
Entity13 posted...
I see Wanded has decided to take the Tomi Lahren approach to current events by posing a nonsensical question that either strawmans the facts or can be answered with elementary level research and logic. Wanded, please, for the sake of sanity, let it go. The battle, for all intents and purposes (save one narcissist's ego), is over.
who's tomi lahren and what are the facts exactly

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicJoe Biden elected president of the United States
Wanded
11/09/20 11:30:45 PM
#144
man101 posted...
The media didn't decide. Analysts who study the vote and the counties they are coming from have concluded it's almost mathematically impossible for Trump to make up ground and win the necessary electoral points, which the media then report and project the winner. The analysts don't call the election until they're damn sure. Happens literally every election. Trump declared victory in 2016 when the media projected it. The loser accepts the math and concedes. The only reason it's any different this time is because Trump is a narcissist and pathological liar who can't accept that he can lose at anything and so just like every day for the past 3.5 years, he whines and complains and insists that there's fraud and cheating and everyone is working against him.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Stop shit posting. The American people decide, the media only reports the results.

Why are you still being a sore loser and making up nonsense?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/79098860

why are you against due process and making sure everything is indeed legit?

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TopicThe Media said Al Gore was president for over a month after Elections
Wanded
11/09/20 11:27:42 PM
#1
just saying

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicWho is the better president? Trump or Bush
Wanded
11/09/20 11:23:20 PM
#3
Leftists: OMG *current republican president* is LITERALLY HITLER and a fascist! he's such a racist sexist homophobe bigot and a big meanie! those right wingers really went off the deep end his time...they're not rooting for decent people like *former republican president* anymore, they are now the party of evil!

repeat every time the right wins elections

https://www.reporternews.com/story/opinion/columnists/2016/12/01/democrats-and-nazi-card/94603274/

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TopicHow many children do you think there are on this website?
Wanded
11/09/20 11:05:08 PM
#8
IronBornCorps posted...
I think the message boards are dying. Younger people have way more options to engage in discussion like social media.

So I don't think many kids end up here as a result. Maybe to look up game tips.
isn't social media just another form of message boards though?

like, is reddit considered a message board or social media?

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TopicWhiskey's Inevitable Election Rant....
Wanded
11/09/20 10:16:38 PM
#67
Clench281 posted...
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/07/tweets/list-does-not-show-over-14000-dead-people-cast-bal/

"According to the states voter database, several of the individuals on the list are shown as never having cast an absentee ballot, and at least one woman listed seems to still be alive. "

cool, we should still check and verify ALL of them, right?

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TopicI think I'm gonna stop playing WRPGs on the higher difficulties.
Wanded
11/09/20 10:14:13 PM
#16
play spelunky

no difficulty level but the game still makes you feel like trash lol

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TopicI seem to be emotionally motivated!
Wanded
11/09/20 10:11:16 PM
#13
always pizza

always

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicWhat pokemon would the above poster have?
Wanded
11/09/20 10:10:26 PM
#15
Houndoom

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicPick one video game in which you become extremely proficient with
Wanded
11/09/20 10:09:30 PM
#43
joemodda posted...
I made this topic because of a discussion I had w/ some friends about how some people just... aren't cut for certain kinds of videogames.

Ex: a person who has played games like Sims all their early life will probably never hit Diamond in R6 or GE in CSGO. Probably. Practice and training only goes so far... some people are just better suited. It's the same idea with competitive sports.

But I figured it would be interesting to see what people would pick if they could 'magically' become proficient at a videogame of their choice.

I figure common choices would be competitive multiplayer and popular speedrun titles.
It also has to do with what you were exposed to when you were a kid, the earlier you game the better you'll be in stuff like platformres, shooters, racing, fighting games, i mainly played platformers as a kid so that's my forte, didn't play as much shooters because my pc sucked and laggy internet so i'm just okay in these games

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicPick one video game in which you become extremely proficient with
Wanded
11/09/20 10:07:11 PM
#42
Lokarin posted...
idk... Spelunky?
enter doubt meme here

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicWhat pokemon would the above poster have?
Wanded
11/09/20 10:05:33 PM
#10
Machamp

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicYes! Ghost of Tsushima is my 5th platinum.
Wanded
11/09/20 10:01:10 PM
#13
Congratz


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Topicim married to a trump supporter who believes there was voter fraud
Wanded
11/09/20 10:00:16 PM
#101
what did he change your mind about?

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Topicim married to a trump supporter who believes there was voter fraud
Wanded
11/09/20 9:55:23 AM
#46
ReggieTheReckless posted...
Yeesh, why everyone in here gotta be such an a******. You don't even know the guy and you insult him.
not everyone, only people from one specific political side which is known for blocking family members and friends online for "wrong think"

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicAnime, Manga, VN, JRPG, Related Things Discussion Topic XCII
Wanded
11/09/20 9:44:27 AM
#276
YoukaiSlayer posted...
Which shonen anime leave the OP good guy alive. By OP good guy I don't mean main character, I mean the characters that are already world class at the start of the show. People like all might. Watching jujutsu kaisen right now and it has a similar thing. Theres one good guy that is the strongest in the world and it's so clear that he is going to be at least in some way taken out of commission, because he is too powerful for the story to progress. What anime leave these people in?

I can think only of hunter x hunter right now. I mean, eventually they kill off some of the strong characters, but thats a long long way in and even then, theres people like hisoka that could presumably handle anything that comes up.

I didn't watch far enough into black clover to see if the magic king or whatever they called it ever got taken out but I'm almost certain he would get taken out so the main people can matter.

DBZ doesn't really have anyone that fits this. Each new enemy is the strongest ever and the good guys must rise to meet the challenge.

Bleach doesn't really have anyone that fits either IIRC.

One piece doesn't really have this as far as I had watched (which was a bit over 100 episodes). They have people way stronger than the main characters, but none that are actively supporting them.

Naruto has at least one that gets taken out. I haven't seen it to it's conclusion either though.

It's just kind of a bummer to see one of these characters and know "oh yeah, the story is going to either kill them or weaken them 100%".
bleach, one piece and naruto have these, but the main characters eventually surpass them

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicWhat will it take to have socialized healthcare?
Wanded
11/09/20 8:18:01 AM
#24
Clench281 posted...
Has Wanded ever shared a 'source' that isn't a YouTube video, tweet, or tweet linking to a YouTube video

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/04/health-care-basic-facts-and-hard-truths/

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TopicUgh I have been exposed to COVID
Wanded
11/09/20 8:07:06 AM
#136
JigsawTDC posted...
Ooh, looks like all our local conservatrolls are coming out of the wood work to white knight their King WhiskeyCuck.

If I knew I'd get this sort of reaction maybe I should have just swung harder instead of apologizing lol. After all, we all know Whiskey uses whatever irl ammo he's aware of to attack people. And let's definitely not forget the multiple times Class Act Whiskey has encouraged posters expressing suicidal thoughts to kill themselves! Talk about goldfish memories, right, Whiskey?!
him doing bad stuff doesn't mean you should do bad stuff as well

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicWhat do you think of the BLM mural in the upcoming Spider-Man?
Wanded
11/09/20 8:01:57 AM
#63
so is there a mission where you attack cops, riot, loot minority owned stores and take down historic statues of lincoln and such?

sounds fun, i'd play that

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicWhat will it take to have socialized healthcare?
Wanded
11/09/20 7:42:53 AM
#22
TaKun782 posted...
Theirs a lot of things I can agree with Ben on, but this isn't simply one of them. I mean, jesus... we are like millions of dollars in medical debt from people that cant even afford it. And thats good. Id say dont pay it. Fuck this system and let that debt be a prime example of the very reason why in this country people cant afford it in the first place.
so make the moves necessary to lower these prices instead? like breaking medical monopolies and having price transparency etc

i probably should have put this video instead since this one is more relevant to your points
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdN4uJZUhLE

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicWhat will it take to have socialized healthcare?
Wanded
11/09/20 6:52:38 AM
#20
Yellow posted...
All other first world countries have it and medical bankruptcies don't exist anywhere but the US.

Ben Shapiro "you don't have a right to healthcare" is accidentally left wing. You do in all other first world countries. Ben "don't involve morality with decision making" Shapiro.

You don't have people dying from lack of healthcare in other countries. US has a problem with the anti-healthcare cult.
nothing you said refutes his two main points

and you don't have people dying from lack of healthcare is the us either, the liberal "people are literally dying in the streets" talking point is false

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicJoe Biden elected president of the United States
Wanded
11/09/20 6:46:54 AM
#128
JigsawTDC posted...
Wanded's head is already so far up his ass, are you sure he can go any further?
i guess this is better than you trying to make fun of my mom dying like you did the other guy the jens topic

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Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition
TopicThere aren't really any anime about the grown adult male power fantasy...
Wanded
11/09/20 6:42:23 AM
#11
TigerTycoon posted...
Kazuma from Konosuba.
he's constantly in debt

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Topicim married to a trump supporter who believes there was voter fraud
Wanded
11/09/20 6:38:46 AM
#39
Yellow posted...
They're being allowed to do a public service so they can follow anti-discrimination laws.

That's the way it should be.
that's different from what you initially said, which made it look like trump wanted to ban adopting for gays in general, then you supplied nuance which showed it was only for christian organizations

a far right approach would ban gay adoptions ignoring anti discrimination laws, a far left approach would force christians to do what they want them to do and what goes against their religious belief, ignoring freedom of religion laws

trump took the centrist route which is the only route not forcing anyone to do anything, basically letting organizations do whatever they want, i don't see an issue with the only route not using force to abide one sides outlook

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