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Oh my god, the game literally references the South Park fish sticks joke.

Also I'm feeling very much like Keebo is gonna be involved in whatever murder happens this chapter.

I'm missing Himiko's "nyeeeeh" from when she was depressed/sleepy
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Completed the trial.

This is...

Wow.

I kind of hate it.

Like, it's kind of like Tsumiki in DR2 where the killing is cause they're actually a fucking nutter (actually, this whole case is very much like that case), that is done so in futherance of the plot and reveals, or at least hints at the secret that restoring their lost memory will bring to light. This is just... hey i'm a crazy serial killer person also weird brain-incest!

I'm getting nothing out of this other than that the character, that I loved, was a waste of time. Like, I'm annoyed that Yonaga and Tenko died in the furtherance of this nonsense.

And worst of all, it's boring. You can have a case where the culprit is this obvious if you do something good with that to turn it upside down where it isn't really about the literal killing but another more interesting background mystery. See DR2 case 5. Nothing like that came from this.

Edit: NOOOOOO, Monodam! You were the one I didn't hate!
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What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudge.
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Had to take a break again. Back at it. I seem to be on a lying section of the trial and am confused as to what to do. But I'll get it after 4 game overs or so.

I forget, can you use lie bullets to agree, or only disagree?
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At the intermission now and the evidence is hugely mounting that it was Shinguji who did it. Kokichi's account of falling through the floor boards of another room proves that the killer took the precaution of setting the trap in every room and then, as Shinguji did, let someone else pick the specific one so that they look like they picked the specific one that was trap sprung. I can't see how it could be anyone else right now, but that's so boring if so.

Not sure why they would kill Tenko, or I suppose anyone who volunteered to be the Maya. Was it just to make people waste time argue over the second murder so time is up on the first? That's dumb. It's obvious the killer is the same, there's be no reason to set a trap in the empty rooms if there was no first murder to conduct a seance for. I'm not even sure what his motivation would be. Just wanting to use his beloved dog cage thing? Something regarding the resurrection ritual that he wanted to stop, or maybe he wanted to bring someone other than Amami back? But who and why? My head is hurting thinking about what it might be.
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A good ways into the trial and I still have no real idea of anything. Currently discussing if Tenko's death was suicide, which obviously it wasn't. I'm leaning more and more towards it actually being Shinguji who dun it, but I still think that would be too obvious.

I'm really starting to dislike Psyche Taxi. It takes so long, it's so boring and it's incredibly immersion breaking. Mind Excavation or whatever it was called is also annoying. It's not bad or immersion breaking like such, but it's probably the most nothing minigame in the trials since DR1 Hangman's Gambit. Possibly even more so. It feels like a complete waste of time.

What the hell are the blood marks on Yonaga's portrait supposed to be? First time it's been anything but an X.

Also, holy shit, Iruma actually got called a cum dumpster.
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Literally got a game over on the second non-stop debate of the trial. The fuck?

Hold the fuck on. The piece of evidence I was supposed to present to the statement that Shinguji broke into Yonaga's lab was not one of the literally 3 possible ones that proved the lab wasn't broken into, it was the one that state that Yonaga wouldn't have willingly opened the door for him?

Okay game.
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Holy shit, FUCK YOU, KOKICHI!

Alright, trial about to begin. For the first death I have no fucking clue. I think that's intentional that the game focused much more on investigating the second one so all the details regarding the first can come out in the trial. I feel like the culprit is the same, but I dunno yhow it ties together. Maybe the kama was used to ply the backdoor lock into place after the killer exited. I feel like the kama might be the murder weapon in Yonaga's murder too, but I dunno. The katana seems very performative. Though the lock did have goldleaf on it, which indicates it was somehow the katana that was used. I also think the dried blood under the seance room floor boards might be Yonaga's somehow.


As for the second murder, all the evidence points to Shinguji, which as always makes me think it isn't them. Also they're acting incredibly strange and suspicious this whole case. And chapter, really. They were really insistent on the marker stone, so if it was somehow used to to locate while under the floorboards, that would indicate that it was him. Also I believe the opening to the crawlspace was in the corner he was standing in. But I didn't get to investigate the other empty rooms to see if those were used to get into the crawl space. So I will probably be relying on Kokichi's knowledge in the trial. If the dried blood isn't Yonaga's maybe it's Shinguji's and he has a wound hidden under his bandages. I dunno. Again, it seems too obvious. And yeah, I am still suspicious as fuck regarding Keebo's flashlight function and how it will be relevant. No clue, really. Very exciting.
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Oh shit, we going full Phoenix Wright spirit medium nonsense on this case. I feel like once we turn on the lights again after the seance we gonna have another dead person.

I see you, bloodstain!

Having various emotions right now. On the one, I'm somewhat annoyed at the predictability. I don't see why every single DR game needs a third case with two deaths. I sort of get it in DR2 cause it was playing up the DR1 similarity. But why continue that beyond that point? But also I'm kind of sad cause I was actually starting to like Tenko somewhat in this chapter.

Also, I feel like the game is following a trend of characters being unable to die unless their ultimate talent research lab is revealed, which is kind of annoyingly predictable. Obviously Amami is an exception, but that feels to be the case due to that being part of the game's mystery what he was all about.

They added "Keebo's Flashlight Function" to my truth bullets and I have no fucking clue how that could possibly be relevant. I'm feeling like either he or Imura was involved in this solely based on them adding that to my bullets.

Presumably all the rooms share a crawl space, so the killer snuck under the floor in one of the rooms and crawled to the seance room area and stabbed the victim from there through a crack in the floor space ala DR2 case 1. Meaning the people in the seance room have alibis. Or I'm totally wrong!

Shinguji comes off as extremely suspicious, but I feel like they aren't actually involved.
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Compsognathus posted...

You know one of my least favorite things in FE games? Figuring out who gets Stat Up items. It is just an endless series of second guessing.

Do I give Giant Shells to someone who already has high defense since defense is a stat that snowballs? Or someone with terrible defense?

Speed ups to slow characters to prevent doubling or fast characters to ensure they double?

https://youtu.be/QcSsowS8v6U?t=176
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OH, THEY DEAD!

I knew it!

It had to happen, really. This situation couldn't keep going on.

I really hope Monokuma gets back to normal soon.
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Still not at the part of chapter 3 where someone dies, though I assume it's gonna be today. I'm figuring it's either gonna be Yonaga or Tenko who die and it's gonna be like a fight between the student council and the others during the trial.

Also, I hung out with Iruma and she gave me porn of herself. Okay.

LinkPizza posted...

Also, I keep getting confused. The last names of some characters I forget. But also, switching between first and last gets confusing. Haha.

Sorry, some of the names are just really confusing to me to remember so I go by their last names instead. It also makes it more confusing that I'm playing with Japanese audio, so the text refers to the characters by their first names, but when the characters have voiced dialogue and they mention someone else, they use their last name.

LinkPizza posted...

The anime isnt necessary to play the game. Though, it is necessary to understand the full and complete the story. But that would be obvious, so...

I do plan to watch the anime, I just don't want to have to do it when I'm engaged in the game series. I'll probably put it on in between replaying the games, which I plan to do.

LinkPizza posted...

I liked the English audio. Especially when you hear the accent on Teruteru...

I don't mind the English audio track overall, I just find Monokuma and Usami in particular rather weak because they have this really unique voicing in the Japanese audio and in the English they just sound like sort of crazy and cutesy humans respectively.

LinkPizza posted...

I assume you are saying that because of the front tail thing. Though, that actually made me laugh...

I don't remember specifically what it was, but in the later half of the game Owari's lack of interest or ability to think a situation through at all and just wanting to punch someone or "get the vote over with" as soon as possible, stuff like that, it really pissed me off. And it just got worse and worse as the game went on.

I actually specifically remember not understanding the front tail thing, but I don't remember the specifics of it.

LinkPizza posted...

With V3, you can start chapters at free time events. So, you can always go back to previous chapters to get more shards without using much time. Its be a good idea to do so since you dont have to play the full chapter like before...

I'll probably just replay the whole games a couple of time and get the events that way. Except for DR3 where I don't wanna replay chapter 1 over and over and over to get all of Kaede's events. I'm assuming there's like an Island Mode both for her and Shuichi and I can get them that way, which I will. Or maybe she is gonna get brought back by this revival ritual thing. Who knows. No need to comment on this, and if you do, put it in spoiler tags plz. >_>

LinkPizza posted...

It does for the pint where you need to lie. But you can also lie at certain other parts to get alternate dialogue...

Yeah, according to the game I got one of those in the last trial. But I really don't like this mechanic. In fact I hate it so fucking much, from a narrative level, that it might solely be responsible for me thinking DR3 has the worst trials, but I'll have to get through the whole game before I know if its that bad.

LinkPizza posted...

AFAIK, they should be the same age...

I assume so. Like, I don't know specifically what the age ranges in Japanese high school is. I'd imagine in reality they are fairly close in age, but in design Himiko looks like a pre-pubescent child.

Lmao, Kaito calls Harukawa Maki Roll.
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What the hell. I gave Tsumugi a gift she was literally salivating over and I still couldn't get an event scene with her. Can you just not do events with people in the Atua cult? She seemed her normal self.

Getting events is a lot harder in this one than the last two games. I also miss the sound effects for when a gift was super effective.
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For some reason Mokujin is in the game now.
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Oh right.

That was fun.
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What happened up between 475-481?
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They added a skill I want to the Casino that costs 6600 coins. That's 30+ minutes of salmon fishing or 2 hours of attempting to get good results on the slot machine >.>
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@Caution999

Still avoiding his own topic while shitting all over the reddit board dedicated to the board where he posted his topic.
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Conflict posted...

No caution, I'm not going to "join your discord server if I want to talk". If you can't even reprimand your hero's quotes out in the open then you're a pussy.

@Caution999

Were you really cowardly enough to PM someone to "take it to discord" where you can better control the flow of information, just for asking you to return to your own hit and run troll topic where you, as you always do, defended the lowest of human filth?
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I can't believe the game is literally telling me that the character named Tojo is the prime minister of Japan and they were going to "make the country great again."
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Well, as usual most of what I thought was wrong, lol. But at least the game addressed most of it.

So, if the revelation right before the intermission is true, and I assume it is cause the plot wouldn't move forward if not, then I think the culprit has to have been Yonaga. Because I could see someone setting up the situation with the fish tank in the gym hall despite not having knowledge of the setup if they're actually in the gym while doing it. But if the crime happened during nighttime, then the culprit must have been in the swimming pool area and hoisted the body through the window into the gymnasium. They'd have to know that there was a suitably fishtank right below it to plop it into. And they'd have to set up the partition in advance before nighttime. Unless it was all pure coincidence, which it obviously wasn't.

Or maybe I'm entirely wrong about the way the crime was committed again and none of that will be true.

Edit: Monosuke > Monodam > Monophanie > Monotaro. I hope Taro gets the axe during the execution. The rest are slightly tolerable. Phanie only because I find her vomit gimmick funny. Otherwise she's a crappy Monomi.
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Starting the trial. I don't think I've ever been at a loss for ideas as I am here in regards to whodunnit. Even when I turn out to be horribly wrong, which is all the time lol, I at least have some theory-crafting in regards to who it might be.

The only real thing I see here is that Shuichi's flashforward comments about being betrayed really indicates that it was Kaito. I also have a small suspicion that it was Tojo, just because I find the curtain around the gym sus, but I really have no idea otherwise who it might be.

I'm also confused if I'm supposed to take the ridiculously cartoony stripped clean skeleton at face value or if Ryoma's body was somehow whisked away during the pirahna attack and they replaced it with a halloween store plastic skeleton.

Some things about the murder I think are true.

Something other than the pirahnas were in the pirahna cage. The logical conclusion is that it would be Ryoma's body, but I don't understand why they wouldn't have eaten him already then. I think he was drowned in the sink in his lab bathroom. In some way a hoist system was used between the bathroom and the gym hall, presumably to carry his body. The floatation thing in the pool might be relevant, but I'm not sure how or why it wasn't added to the truth bullets. Probably something to "discover" in a Hangman's gambit or something.


I feel like there might be a detail of the crime discovered at the trial that proves the culprit had to be someone not at the show.

Also, I'm kind of annoyed that the game is playing the "A magician never reveals their secrets" trope. It's a class trial with our lives on the line. Why the fuck do I have to waste time discovering how the show was performed when I could just be told?

Also, this is entirely unrelated, but I really fucking love Shinguji.

Edit: If it was the body in the fish tank, then the killer would have to be someone who was not in the entomologist room after 9pm. So, Kokichi, Tojo, Iruma, Kaito, Harukawa. One of those. I think I'm leaning that way.
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Oh noes, someone died. Again not who I was expecting. Yo, the whole later part of Daily Life of chapter 2 had the creepiest atmosphere.

So I'm guessing the trial is going to be all about solving the magic trick. Or at least uncovering how it was abused. I have no idea who it could be at present time, though the obvious suspects to me are Yonaga and Kaito.

Tenko crushing on Himiko is weird considering how much older she looks than Himiko. Damn, Yonaga got really scary in this chapter. I'm not sure if I can consider her best girl anymore.
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I remember thinking 15 had too few sidequests and they were all shit that involved only a few garbage NPCs that travelled from location to location as the story progressed.

The fucking dogtag quest doesn't even make sense on any plane of existence.
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Hmm, maybe it wont be that bad then.

Yo, those casino prizes look dice!

I'll probably have to wait till late game to unlock good ways to get coins, or spend forever on that salmon fishing game right now, though.

Would a pitchfork mob really chase someone down for being the "ultimate maid"?

I just love the animations of Monokuma jumping in from the side or falling from the top of the screen in this one.
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Finished chapter 1.

Wow.

I dunno what to say. I was completely fooled and floored. And gut-punched.

Attack Armament or whatever it was called was easily the best version of the Bullet Time Battle. Closing Argument is vastly inferior to DR2, probably even DR1.

I'm tempted to ask a lot of questions, but I'm afraid I'd invite spoilers unto myself so I won't, for now at least.

In closing,

Tenko and Kokichi should kill themselves.

Edit: Also, accroding to the results screen, before the trial I accidentally set the difficulty levels to normal instead of mean. And I was feeling so good about completing a Danganronpa trial without a gameover for the first time.
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What THE FUCK IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

You tricked me, game!
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Shuichi's silence right now is really annoying. I feel like it's related to the backstory they gave about how finding the culprit made them sad and shit and they doesn't want to do it again, which I guess I get, but it's not endearing right now. Which would mean that Shuichi has figured out who the culprit is. And it's Iruma. That's where I'm at right now.

I feel like this case has gone more out of its way to set up red herrings than any in the other two games. Like, they were present, like the wet suit in case 2 of DR2, but they were mostly just argumentative red herrings. Here there are literal pieces of evidence that exist only to guide me off track. I think that seems conceptually very cool.

The Lie Bullet mechanic fundamentally strikes me as bad. I don't see how I'm supposed to guess when I'm meant to lie unless the game literally nudge nudge wink wink's me every time. And just the idea that I'm meant to lie in the trials rather than seek the truth just seems wrong and completely arbitrary in a way that prevents brain-teasing the case out in your head.

Debate Scrums seem really fun.

That one facial expression of Kokichi's is terrifying.
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This V-point thing is... awkward. Imma need to see the end of the trial how much it actually matters to give a shit about.

Visually so far the trials are the weakest they've been. The background looks ridiculously dark. The font in Nonstop debates is super boring and doesn't reflect the frantic nature of the discussion. The HUD border is really big and imposing on the visuals in a way I haven't felt before. I dunno my man :/

Also why is Kaede wearing her backpack during the trial? That's silly.

Just got done confirming Iruma's alibi, but it got me thinking. Maybe they weren't working on the real drone in the kitchen. Maybe it had already been activated and placed in the library, holding an iron ball it was programmed to release. Then there wouldn't be camera sensors aiming at the doors picking up its entry. Or possibly it was small enough (not really, but I could see the game logic pulling it) to go through that vent. Hmmm....

Mass Panic Debates are awkward for someone who likes listening to/reading the dialogue.
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Finished investigation, trial time!

My thinking right now is fairly unchanged. The game will either go the obvious way and have it be Gonta, or the still rather obvious, but more interesting way and have it be Shuichi. Or as history shows, more likely I'm just wrong.

I think if it turns out to be Gonta it will be something like, Amami engaged him in a plan to kill the mastermind or some such, and maybe Gonta wasn't able to see very well behind the door, and when Shuichi heard he beeper thing and rushed into the library, Gonta thought it was the mastermind and threw the iron ball, which then killed Amami. He was too sad and horrified to stand up and get the first blood perk from it, maybe.

I don't know how, but I feel those pictures of Shuichi disabling the cameras are gonna end up being crucial evidence. I really wish you could full screen picture Truth Bullets to analyse them in more detail.

Either way, I feel like I'm gonna lose a character I like here.
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Can anyone confirm whether you get skill purchases points any other way than through bonding? The skill I really want costs 16, but if I only get 4 or 5 points per chapter, I'd have to go another 2 chapters before getting another one. I'm contemplating just saving my points till after the trial to experience most of the new gameplay elements and make purchases based on which of those I want to improve my position on.

Not finished investigating yet. Game seems to be implicating Gonta dude pretty hard. I'd be sad if it was, I like that character a lot. I'm thinking that, if not what happened, then what the game is going to try to push as what happened, was that someone chucked the iron ball at Amami. Gonta was in a position to do so from the AV room with the sliding door open on the crack, they could get their arm through and throw directly into the library. It is also being implied that the balls were so heavy that really only Gonta could throw them. But also one the players might be small, but they're still the Ultimate Tennis Pro. So I dunno if it could be them.

I'm still kinda thinking it's Shuichi.

One thing I'm curious about is whether it's gonna be like DR1 or DR2. Meaning whether people actually die or it's in a computer simulation. I'm thinking like DR1.

Edit: Oh, Tsumugi is an alien, lol.
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Why does Iruma keep saying Kaede have small boobs when her tuchankas are obviously massive?
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"An insufficient sum of money, but you and all your family and friends get brutally murdered"
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Ice has an immediate and non-technical effect on a lot of shit. I wouldn't even know where to begin with applying instant electricity in my daily life.
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Alright, first murder happened. Game is underway. Going to bed though so won't investigate or have the trial till probably tomorrow.

Very surprised that the first victim was Amami dude. I thought the game was setting them up to be A Komaeda-style foil for me.

Not sure why the killer would elect a class trial rather than taking advantage of the freebie like mentioned. We gonna have another crazy person or another suicide situation?

I feel like the game room is gonna become the alibi keypoint. Like either only someone in the game room could be the killer, or everyone in the game room can't be the killer.

I am very suspicious of Schuichi. The balls in the warehouse, them knowing the tricks and kinks to the camera system, them running off on their own. Them acting kind of weird here on the last day. I feel like even if they weren't the blackened in this case, they'll end up being it in another one, in a sort of twist thing.

But yeah, I'm liking it a lot and excited about everything except the Monokubs. Very interested to see who is the actual mastermind this time. I'm assuming it won't be Junko again. That would kind of suck if it was.

Tenko might possibly be my least favourite character in the entire franchise, though Yasuhiro gives her a run for the money, and she might turn out better as we go along. She looks a lot like Harukawa. Are they supposed to be sisters?

I am very sad that unlike in the first and second game, the Japanese audio doesn't have a voice clip of Monokuma saying "The Monokuma Firuuuuuuu!". It was hilarious.

I'll also need to have another look at the skills list to see what to get before the trial. Damn some of the ones I liked before are reeeeeally expensive.

Can't wait to continue.
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Claiming you have an ideal of free speech (which doesn't apply, but you're silly enough to think it does) for everyone, but then saying that there's a specific clause that you made up that applies to the current situation and thus allows you to ignore that principle clearly means you never had it in the first place and you are lying.
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Reminder that when Trump mispronounced Thailand as 'thigh-land', Dinesh D'Souza tried to gaslight the internet into believing that's how everyone pronounces it.
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How is me claiming you have no principles, based on a quote of you ignoring your principles, evidence that I have no principles?
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onedarksoul posted...

A guy with no principles or ideals telling me what they're all about.

Rich.

You made that up, though.
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onedarksoul posted...

A conservative's ideal is free speech for everyone, outside of threats/violence etc. etc. But thats not the environment we're in currently. So now we're marking too, and the mods to their credit are doing their jobs, though they likely don't want to.

This is not what having principles and ideals is.

You should stop claiming you have any.
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First free time period, yay! I'll get some gifts before I decide who to spend time with.

I tried the sewer escape game again, hope that doesn't spend time since I got thrown back to my room afterwards. Everyone seems to be in the same places so I guess it doesn't.

Are the yellow dots on the Monokubs' mouth areas supposed to be pacifiers?

Also it sounds like Tsumugi might have a JustSubscribers page for her special request cosplay photo spreads.
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onedarksoul posted...

Its probably more about revenge than anything. Leftist mass markers derailed the MAGA board.

Derailed it from its usual discussion that got it banned.
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No, but Wario Land was legit fantastic.
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Yeah no, this Kokichi guy can really just go fuck himself.

Shuichi is such a fucking good boy. I love my little gender-swapped Kyoko.
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GranolaPanic posted...

Rush first did it in the 90s. Victim blaming rape victims became popular because of him.

Oh, I didn't realize that saying that rape victims are too ugly to rape was a literal rightwing trope.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Holy shit.
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GranolaPanic posted...

He told a rape victim that she wasnt hot enough to rape.

Wasn't that Sargon of Akkad?
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Didn't TC get banned for melting down on the people he's criticizing with this topic.
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