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Logistically it should be someone who we has a lot to say.
But I can also see a use in picking one of the lesser actives to force them into the limelight.
Though the funnier choice would be to pit dowolf against HB at night
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Eh
Chalk that up to me not being able to tell how much patience the other players had with Puns.
To be honest I half expected the day to have ended last night already.
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I feel thats a combination of both propaganda and draconian inhumane measures.
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Han this is silly, who wouldn't support a lynch like that?
And why would I not mention how I feel about Puns after coming back to the game and seeing him roll over.
I said I've seen scumpuns give up before and that is true.
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Okay I did laugh.
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Lea is about in that same null category.
Not overly towny, and yet I cant say her worst actions dont fit her town MO.
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I dont like using that kind of meta,
But honestly beyond IGCD sheeping Chris, he's not on my radar right now anyway.
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If Puns is scum though, it just adds more to my belief that HB is town.
Because there is no way he stays on Dowolf if HB were scum.
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To be fair, its probably nearly everyone who expressed themselves that way about Puns.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Honestly Han, it was Tang and Death coming in to say that then Plum doing the same that irked me about plum doing it.

I posted after Plum tho!
Though in my case felt disappointed that nothing really happened while I was sleeping.
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I havent even voted Puns yet Han, wtf.
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Yeah I feel like I have seen this before from Puns
No point in ending the day early now tho. And he might say something we can use..
Just maybe.
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We could use some votals
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Did you mean Ben? Thats who I asked about. But maybe its easy to confuse the two

Dont mean to come across as rude btw. I appreciate the opinion on Bob.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

lol got scolded for wearing a mask at the supermarket today.

a random dude was like "why do you wear a mask? because THE MEDIA told you to!"

What kind of supermarket? The Jumbo?.
I felt like us masked folks were finally outnumbering the unmasked.
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Btw, I found it even sillier to hear talk about DYL maybe being scum when I am pretty sure anything that can show up as scum for a daycop would also be killed by a gambler.
Just my very old two cents.
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Geez, dont be so down on yourself.
What I literally mean is that I want to see more opinions from you in case you are scum.
The webs being strings that tie you to other players.
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You know I might as well tie Tange up in more webs
Tange, your thoughts about Ben and Bob?
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I dont get it either
2 of those people I dont even trust.
I think Chris calling Johnbobb town depended on you being scum too.
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Actually Plum was the one to bring up Jack first, Han was the last. Not sure if thats a fact anyone needs right now, but there ya go.

Having reread everything I do like Stan a little bit more for his interactions with Tange. Tange being a player who looks suspicious enough, but I appreciate anyone trying to pressure players like him (even if they try to laugh it off in the end).

Though at this rate, Puns is becoming so unimpressive that dont see myself voting anyone else today.
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Johnbobb posted...

I was typing something then I spaced out and forgot what it was

then thought it would be funny to post that anyway because it made me think of like a grumpy old-timey sitcom husband going "whyyyyy yoooooou little"

And here I thought it was me calling you suspicious.
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Btw I do at least think that anyone referencing Covid yesterday is probably not directly the cause of the disease spreading. Because it would be silly to place focus on yourself even if you were trying to do reverse psychology.
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I find it annoying that you accuse me of focusing on the jack or vig when I was only responding to others bringing it up.
And okay HB doesnt have to be town, but I see no reason to think he is scum either.
More importantly I feel like people attacking him based on his claim are bad (Hey Ben!) and that he is being spiced up for a later lynch.
Regardless of what he is, I still dont like your posts at the end of day1

I aso still would like to hear what the 'why you' is about.
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Beats me.
I am not putting answers in his mouth.
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Haha?
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PunishedBen posted...

Han is dead and town so what exactly are you raising your eyebrows about? Lol

I somehow did not connect those dots.
In my defense, he was not the only one to say it. He was just the last so his name got written down. D'oh.
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Han what if it really is a townJack that killed Aecioo? Do you want him to be outed?
I did almost find it eyebrow-raising that you seem so certain that Aecioo was not killed by scum
But it doesnt seem like he left any cophints or claim crumbs at all, so I cant figure out why scum would kill him either.
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Leanansidhe posted...

Really? I know it's been a hot minute, but remember who you're speaking to, Death~

Touche.
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I will grant you that a Chris led special would look more promising than whatever Puns was trying to do. I just didn'texpect a hunger for specials to override your hunger for dead red.
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Lea, my question.
Look at it please.
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dowolf posted...

I would bet a very ugly penny that scum isn't going to kill the person who ended the tiebreaker.

I do wonder how much of what HB and Chris said to each other influenced scum.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Why would a town player shoot effectively-confirmed-town Crescent-Moon?

How can he even know who killed who? Did I miss something?
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Also your whole post and who you dont like assumes HB is town. Why is that?

That explanation is at the top of the post, Ben.

But okay that explains the tonal dissonance from before and after. Though it doesn't make your vote look that much better.
Granted if HB is scum, my entire opinion there flips around yes. Heck if HB is scum, than Johnbobb and Puns look slightly better for not trying to save him.

But that leads me to thoughts like 'should we lynch HB first?' and that doesnt sound smart.
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I dont even remember what a votestuffer is.
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Fair enough, we should not start SKhunting all of the sudden.
I just got a little bit worried about the whole 4 deaths and disease and all.

It also makes me think things like ways in which that 25 % could have become infected.
Though the likely answer there is just that a certain number of players were selected at night.
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I am just going for the simplest explanation.
I figured town wouldnt have a vig and a gambler at the same time, and I dont see how scum could be responsible for 3 deaths in one night either.
Admittedly, the Corona thing already makes matters sound 'not simple'.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

That is an impressive density of false claims

A false black hole if you will
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Anyway my revaluation of day1's end, which I am sure is mostly just things other people have already recapped and commented on.

DYL being town means I can throw half of my notes out too!
Yesterday I felt HB was more likely to be town than Red was, and also his lynch came out of nowhere so I didnt like it anyway.
And while I was wrong about Red, HB handled himself well througout the night so I am still okay with calling him town for now.
I dont see what makes his role inherently scummy either, its a Gladiator type deal where the role can fit town just as easily as scum.

That does make it harder to analyze everyone around if it was town/town/town. Though DYL really wasnt on the table at the end anymore.
If anything scum might only have cared to engage once HB claimed his role and his target. So I took a look around there.

Dowolf was the first one to vote HB, but I dont know why he'd rock the boat at that point if he was scum.
Dowolf later asks for more info from HB, which is understandable. The claim doesnt seem to move him either. I dont find him supersuspicious over all.

Boko agreed with Dowolf and later votes HB but takes it back when he realized whats happening. He's alright.

Puns is kinda in the same boat as Dowolf, when he goes for Puns with his splintervote.
It just makes him look bad with nothing to gain in return. I thought he voted Dowolf because of the HBvote, but that does not seem to be the case.
If anything Puns not weighing in on Red VS HB is the part that makes him look worse.

Lea was tempted by the dowolf diversion but mentioned wanting to resolve Red.
But everything shifted towards HB instead when Chris sprung his trap. IGCD sheeped the vote, which is par the IGCD norm. But I do not like IGCD for doing it regardless.
Lea also drops her vote on HB despite what she said earlier. See my question above.

Scare defends HB, saying he'd already claimed confirmable beforehand. I think he stayed in character throughout and looks decent now.

Plum seems ambivalent and confused. Then calls HB scum after the claim but does not vote because he wants to stay the course on red.
I have no strong feelings about Plum as of yet either way.

Bens vote on HB is bad. Not just because it reads like how I see a scum would react to a powerclaim, but also because of his silence beforehand. Even if he explains his vote later on, it comes across as tonally different from his initial reaction. He's probably the one I like the least on this lot.
....Is what I would have said if Tange didn't have an equally bad vote afterwards and with no explanation at all. And that makes me torn since I don't expect two scums to drop terrible votes down if they could get a dead town in Red too anyway.

But I shouldnt forget the ones who stayed on the sidelines. Like Johnbobb, who did absolutely nothing despite being around, having no votes down and stating he didnt like the HB train.
Stan comments that the claim was fast, a rather useless observation this close to deadline but he voiced not liking either lynch. A fair possibility, but it stops me from seeing as anything more than neutral.
Bananana also kept his vote on a splinter, but I am a little forgiving on that since he is new(ish?). I need to read his posts from today to get a better bead on him.

In summary, I think 2 scum at least are in that rectangle of Ben/John/Puns/Tange somewhere. PJBasis didnt even show up and could easily be scum too.

..
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Btw an SK has to exist at this point, so what are we thinking for scumnumbers?
5+1?
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Done with work and stuff and in the middle of my catch-up, but I didnt want this question to get lost in a bigger post, so..

Leanansidhe posted...

The dowolf special is v tempting, but it'll be really annoying to not resolve this red thing at this point

One Chrisvote later.

Leanansidhe posted...

##unvote:
##vote: HB

Lea what happened to wanting to resolve Red?
I was also curious why you even mentioned your temptation if you did not even care about lynching dowolf?
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That

The conclusion might have been a bit fuzzier if less people died tonight, but I think the odds of 4 kills going out in one night and DYL being a BPlike role at the same time are pretty negligible.
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Morning
Cant catch up right now, since I have another zoom meeting in 10 minutes I need to prepare for...
Glad to see DYL is townconfirmed, not glad to see everything else.
Mostly I just wanted to post to say I didnt get corona as far as I know.
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Johnbobb posted...

ew I don't like this

Then do something.
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##Vote: Red

Nope
No no no
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I am not going to vote HB at this point, cmon
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Oh I am getting dizzy
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banananor posted...

ok, you got me, i laughed pretty hard at this

He stole my banananananaanana joke
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Oh. Yeah red can die now.
Think he is at -1 though?
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Okay a quick skim of Percussion mafia was helpful, since it proves that scumDYL was a lot more inactive and bigger in walls than the current one and townred was also a bit cooler under pressure.
In the end the red lynch also feels better packed, and maybe I should just go with my initial read here.

What are the vortals tho?
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PunishedBen posted...

Wow death, not even concerned that it was ME who betrayed our alliance?

Sorry, dont have time for that, Ben.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

Red had already been posting for hours when this exchange happened, and this was in the last hour or two. Enough changed to make you totally waver?

Thats not the post I wanted to point towards for one thing.

I hadnt entirely caught up yet when I came back, but yes I was still leaning Red.
After that Red talked to me directly and I thoroughly read the posts he made during my absence and saw how he reacted to Chris, which I felt explained some of it.
I already said it was never a superstrong read
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