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| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 04/23/21 5:53:02 PM #405 | shadowsword87 posted... Y'all post about stuff I'm not interested in, sorry. The main problem is that the original point of these topics was to talk about geeky stuff that would tend to die a quick death if it was posted as a separate topic on PotD (because it was about stuff most people here didn't give a crap about), by sort of concentrating all of those sorts of topics into one place where specific people would be more receptive to them. In essence, you could post about stuff and maybe get people who were interested, whereas if you made a separate topic about it in the wider PotD sphere it would almost certainly get ignored and drown in a sea of shitposting. But no one person is ever going to care about every single subject brought up here - the idea is more to pick and choose which discussions you care about and interact with those. And that means the more niche subjects may not get heavy focus (while more general stuff might sometimes seem like it's getting too much focus), so it's easy to feel like no one is all that interested in the same things you're interested in. At which point this topic just seems as useless as the rest of PotD when it comes to trying to discuss something you like. It also didn't help that some people would complain that no one ever talks about the things they care about here, but they also never really went out of their way to try and start those conversations either (or acted huffy and insulted when everyone didn't immediately jump in and focus on their topic exclusively). So their complaints came across more petty and tantrum-ish than anything actually justified. The more active posters bring stuff they're interested in up to try and spur conversations. If someone feels like they're not seeing talk about what they're interested in, they should at least try to bring those topics up themselves (though admittedly, it can be understandable that if no one engages with your topic the first few times you bring it up, you may feel increasing reluctance to bring it up again). Though personally I've mostly just been gone for a while because I've been kind of busy on and off in real life so I haven't had much time for PotD at all, let alone in-depth discussions or debates about anything here. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | WandaVision Discussion Topic. |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/28/21 6:20:07 PM #187 | DrPrimemaster posted... Also I thought the Metalsonic66 posted... White Vision is a cool nod to the fans http://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/4/44/West_Coast_Avengers_Vol_2_45.jpg Like I said, a lot of this show is straight out of the old comics. Even more so (much more so) than the movies have been. Blightzkrieg posted... "the fans" would literally watch a two hour clip of Wanda eating her own excrement, if it was a reference to some alternate universe time travel story published in 1866 on the back of a cereal box You're confused. "The fans" are the ones who hate literally everything, ever, because it isn't enough like the comics. And then if they make a film that is exactly like the comics in every possible way, they'll complain because it didn't do anything new. "The fans" thrive on hate. Whether you're talking comic books or adaptations of novels, cartoons, video games, or pretty much any property, the most hardcore fans of the original thing are going to be the loudest voices screaming how much the new thing sucks. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | WandaVision Discussion Topic. |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/26/21 5:35:48 PM #167 | Metalsonic66 posted... As someone who has read the comics, I have been very excited to see how this has tied all the different classic comic elements together in a new package while keeping up a sense of mystery. Oh, I'm not saying it can't be good, or that they can't handle things in interesting or unexpected ways. More just the fact that it feels like all the various puzzle pieces are things they took right out of the comics rather than anything they specifically came up with originally for the show. It's why people have been predicting If anything, trying to predict/decipher which of the original stories they're drawing ideas from can be kind of interesting in its own right, especially when it allows you to predict what might happen next (or fools you into thinking you know what comes next, only to have them zig when you expected them to zag). Because the underlying theme of the show seems to involve the concept of grief and working through it, I tend to suspect the show ends with --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | WandaVision Discussion Topic. |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/26/21 3:33:12 PM #161 | Nichtcrawler X posted... So I've been assuming for a while now that they're basically adapting at least part of this storyline: http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/west_coast_avengers_42-45.shtml The show as a whole actually feels like they took 3-4 of the major Scarlet Witch storylines from the comics and sort of mashed them together. Bits from the original Vision and the Scarlet Witch miniseries, the VisionQuest and Wanda going crazy storylines, the original retcon of her origins (which tied her to chaos magic, Cthon, and the Darkhold), and with the MCU version of Monica Rambeau/Captain Marvel/Photon/Pulsar/Spectrum/etc (girl's had a lot of code names)'s origin story thrown in for good measure. As mind-blowing as the show may seem to people who've never read the comics, there doesn't actually seem to be all that many new ideas in it. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | WandaVision Discussion Topic. |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/22/21 3:03:46 PM #145 | JigsawTDC posted... It was not made to be binge watched. You people are just impatient and can't cope with cliffhangers. There's also the added problem that shows designed to generate buzz and lead people to spend a week discussing what happened and trying to predict what's going to happen next in the show aren't very appealing to people who don't actually have any friends. Half the appeal of shows like Game of Thrones or Twin Peaks back in the day was the "water-cooler" talk about the show the next day. But we're in the middle of a pandemic, and people are more antisocial now in general even without the enforced lockdowns, so that sort of conversational discussion is kind of a dead art. Now we mostly just get a sea of voices ranting about their opinions on Twitter and no one really giving much of a shit what other people think. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | So if we need about 70% people to become vaccinated to reach herd immunity... |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/16/21 2:19:06 PM #16 | Clench281 posted... Of all irl and online social circles I visit, potd is the least informed/most pro-trump of all of them. Then you must spend most of your time on some pretty extremist left-wing sites and with mostly extremely skewed people IRL. Though with you, that wouldn't be entirely surprising. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | has the winter affected you |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/16/21 2:15:27 PM #13 | Under normal circumstances the snow would have resulted in me either being stuck home or having to shovel my way out, but basically avoiding ever leaving the house unless I absolutely have to to avoid Covid means I've basically just ignored the snow until it melted on its own. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Why can't I go to anyone's profile and see their active messages anymore? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/16/21 2:12:02 PM #24 | EvilMegas posted... It never should have existed in the first place. It's a weird feature. EvilMegas posted... It's just used to stalk people zebatov posted... Its a bad idea and it shouldnt even be an option to show it. In theory it could be useful to see what sort of topics people were posting in and figure out which accounts were blatant gimmick trolls, but in practice the trolls would set their profiles to private to avoid getting caught that way. So it did basically become a feature that exists more or less solely to harass other users. Not sad to see it go, though I'm surprised GameFAQs was actually competent enough to realize it was a problem and actually fix it. Nichtcrawler X posted... Pretty sure it used to be the norm ten years ago for message boards, GF was just way behind in implementing it. Reddit still does it. In GameFAQs' desperate thirst to catch even a fraction of the userbase of sites like Reddit or Twitter, aping all their features (for good or ill) is pretty much inevitable. I'm kind of surprised we haven't added upvoting/downvoting and tied it to Karma yet. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | How often do you masturbate? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/16/21 2:00:35 PM #43 | BlackScythe0 posted... I feel like "how many times a day" would be a more meaningful metric because most of those options are pointless. That should be the next poll. "Daily" is a misleading option. There's a huge difference between someone who does it once a day and someone who does it half a dozen times a day, but they're all lumped together here. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | PotD RAM |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/15/21 9:59:11 PM #12 | Judgmenl posted... yes but what kind of RAM is this topic using? This kind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIgl6jJZVnU --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Anyone going to watch Detective Chinatown 3? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/15/21 9:56:36 PM #2 | MasterChiefer posted... Apparently it made $400 million dollars at the box office over the weekend. That's probably a bomb in China. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | So if we need about 70% people to become vaccinated to reach herd immunity... |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/15/21 9:55:45 PM #9 | The worst part is that even with herd immunity you still have transmission, and thus mutation. The fewer people get vaccinated, the more likely it is that we'll eventually get a mutation that is more virulent or not covered by the initial vaccine (meaning we go through the crap of the last year all over again). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | What do you think the apocalypse currency will be? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/15/21 9:53:47 PM #20 | sodium-chloride posted... It should be sluts though. Came in to say slaves, so close enough. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Did you know that anti-buoyancy is a thing? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/15/21 7:21:55 PM #7 | Anti-buoyancy is when you're a kid, and you wash baby ducks with dish soap because you don't know any better, and it cuts through the grease on their feathers that makes them buoyant and they immediately sink like a stone into the water. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | The office marathon on Comedy Central really shows how.. |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/15/21 7:19:37 PM #9 | FrozenBananas posted... The offices prime is probably seasons 3-5 I'm reminded of a graphic/article from years ago (that might have been from Cracked before that site went to absolute shit) where it basically argues that every sitcom ever tends to peak somewhere between 3-5. The idea being that the first two seasons are when the show is sort of finding its voice, honing its ideas, establishing long-term concepts, and generally worldbuilding, so it can be good, but won't be at its best. And then anything after season 5 or so is when the show starts getting tired, running out of ideas, the cast and crew start getting burned out (and looking forward to moving on to other projects), and the whole thing is generally wearing out. There's always going to be exceptions, but as a general rule it does seem to work out fairly well. EDIT: Found it. http://www.cracked.com/article_18696_the-lifespan-every-tv-show-ever-5Bcomic5D.html Only downside is that its drawn by Winston Rowntree, which means the writing is more rambling and crammed full of words my posts on PotD, to the point where I wonder if he might be at least mildly schizophrenia (or at least suffer from some form of graphorrhea). But he occasionally has interesting ideas even if his usual presentation is awkward as hell. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Which version do you like more?(or dislike less) |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/14/21 9:57:38 PM #10 | Yeah, going to say that I probably like the English version best of the three now. lihlih posted... Huh, I thought the K-Pop waifus would win out. I wonder why the Finnish version is beating the shit out of the K-Pop waifu version? There's not really all that many weebs on PotD. Or whatever the Korean/Kpop flavor of weeb would be. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Which version do you like more?(or dislike less) |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/14/21 8:29:25 AM #6 | I was assuming one would be more acoustic and the other more electronic, with one being faster than the other, but it honestly sounds like it's pretty much the exact same backing track and the only thing that really changed significantly is the singing. Considering the lyrics are unintelligible moon-speak to me either way, I'd tend to go with the Finnish version, because the audio sounds cleaner and the voices are a bit less high-pitched/whiny/irritating. It's not a terrible song, though. I'd be curious to hear a version in English. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Christians, is Jesus supposed to be resurrected as a human again in the future? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/12/21 7:07:57 PM #15 | My particular denomination believes that he's actually going to come back as a giant transforming mecha. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/12/21 5:55:09 PM #190 | LuciferSage posted... Krull was terrible, and I loved it as a kid. I still love it. As a kid, I used a jigsaw to cut a Glaive out of a sheet of thin fiberboard, then spray-painted it gold. When I threw it, it basically caught the air like a frisbee and flew a LOOOONG way. One of the tines eventually snapped off, and I just chucked it away for good (I think I might have thrown it into the ocean, though it might have just been the woods). I did a lot of stuff like that as a kid, though. I used the same type of fiberboard and a cut-up belt for straps to make my own Captain America shield (though in my case it was actually "The Captain" shield - the one US Agent used later), and I still actually have it stored away somewhere (though I repainted it later to have a medieval coat-of-arms). And I used to steal tons of slats from local wind fence, tape two pieces together with electrical tape, carve a point into one end, and then paint the whole thing to make a sword. At one point I made twelve swords like that and painted symbols on them to represent these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_Swords#The_Twelve_Swords_of_Power I passed those out to my friends and we used to fight with them. We did a lot of stuff along those lines - my one friend made a similar sword and painted it gold to be the Sommerswerd from Lone Wolf, and he had a couple colored stones he used as the Elfstones from Shannara. And I had a Wizard's Staff and a large round egg-shaped river stone I used as the Moonstone from the World of Lone Wolf/Grey Star books. I also had a TARDIS for a while, where I used construction paper to make a police box door over my bedroom door, and I constructed a control console out of old computer parts, keyboards, and monitors, my old Speak & Spell (and Speak & Math and Speak & Read), some other electronic stuff, and a bunch of christmas lights. I kind of stopped doing that sort of stuff once I got older, though I did have a moment about 10 years ago when I made all the rings from Green Lantern/Blackest Night out of plastic piping and a wooden bezel (which I still have displayed in my "gaming lounge"). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/12/21 5:28:43 PM #189 | The Wave Master posted... Clash of the Titans is fun, but my mom loved that more than I did I was a big fan of that film as a kid. It probably helped that I was always into Greek myths in general. Sam Worthington can choke to death on a sack filled with 1000 dicks, though. The remake is trash. The Wave Master posted... and my dad loved Conan, and it wasn't for me. I couldn't really get into it as a kid, though I absolutely love it now. A lot of that is because of the fantastic soundtrack - in some ways it's less a movie/story and more like an operatic movement with accompanying pictures. Pure narrative is usually what I want out of stories (which is why I prefer it even in video games), but every once in a while one grabs me in a purely aesthetic sense. The aforementioned Excalibur sort of falls into that same category - it's a large part of what kicked off my later love of Wagner and Carl Off (and Germanic opera in general). The somewhat surrealist lighting and the soundtrack almost make it more of an experience than a solid story in its own right (and helps offset the fact that it's kind of all over the place and not necessarily accurate with its take on Arthurian myth). Hero (the Jet Li film from 2002) is another film I'll throw into that pile - the visual design is fantastic, and is a large part of the appeal (though the story is fine, too). Hero was also one of the films my girlfriend dragged me to back in the early 2000s, when she kept wanting to go to artsy films (and assumed I was going to hate them), only for her to wind up hating them while I was actually a fan of them. The Wave Master posted... I prefer Real Genius, Better Off Dead, Zapped, or Up The Academy. Those were my 80's movies Interesting - other than Real Genius (which is a brilliant film), I don't think I ever watched any of the others. Hell, while I'm vaguely aware of what Better Off Dead is (though little more than the fact that John Cusack is in it. I'd have a hard time pinning down what I'd consider my quintessential 80s films. Though I do talk up stuff like Big Trouble in Little China and The Last Dragon way too often. Cannonball Run for a more mainstream pick. Ghostbusters is obviously great. I could also point out the handful of films where I can repeat every single line of dialogue to this day because of how often I watched them as a kid. The Ralph Bakshi animated Lord of the Rings, Transformers, and Clue definitely fall into that category. Probably a few others as well, though I ironically can't think of them right now. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/12/21 3:55:20 PM #187 | Zeus posted... Just not here and now in response to the question about it? >_> I literally said "I never really cared about Willow as a setting/story" and "I suppose if I watched Willow now I might have a different opinion of it" in my post right before yours. That seems pretty clearly indicative of my opinion of it. Didn't like it, didn't hate it. Meh. Zeus posted... idk, the Neverending Story did pretty well for itself, didn't it? And what about Clash of the Titans? Are you going to sit there and tell me Clash bombed? And while commercial success is a potential metric for the popularity of a genre, I'd imagine the more relevant metric would be the sheer number of fantasy films coming out at the time. Some were massive like Conan and the Neverending Story, but you also had Legend, The Princess Bride, Beastmaster (which gave us a show afterward), Red Sonja, the Conan sequel, and the kinda-creepy Return to Oz. Apparently Clash didn't fail, which is actually surprising to me, because I always assumed it did. I'll throw Excalibur in there as well - as much as I personally like it, I always assumed it was a failure... but apparently it did turn a bit of a profit (though not a huge one). But most of the rest of the films you mentioned were either blatant failures (Munchausen didn't even make back a quarter of its budget), or the sort of technical failures where they theoretically recoup production budget (and thus succeed, if only barely), but were actually failures when you factor in marketing budget. Beastmaster may have gotten a TV show 17 years later, but it was considered a commercial failure when it was released (and its sequel was a straight-up failure without equivocation). And that's not even including films you didn't mention, like Krull, Ladyhawke, and Sword of the Valiant. There were definitely a few successes (I never said every fantasy film in the 80s failed), but the majority did. [As an aside, Masters of the Universe was a failure mostly spurred by the fact that it barely had anything to do with the cartoon it was theoretically based on (though some people have pointed out that it almost works as a stealth Jack Kirby/Fourth World tribute). And Deathstalker is notoriously terrible in general. It's fallen into the rotation of "worst movies ever" reviewed by sarcastic Internet film critics. If you're contemplating tracking down films you've never seen/heard of before to watch, you might want to avoid that one. Unless you like watching bad movies to make fun of them.] I actually agree with the idea that commercial success isn't necessarily the best metric for the popularity of a genre (and definitely not the creative or critical value of a genre), but on the other hand, it doesn't really matter how many films the studios are putting out if no one is going to watch them in theaters. And that was mostly the point of my initial comment - fantasy wasn't really overly successful in the 80s. Most films failed right out of the gate, and even the ones that succeeded failed to spawn lasting franchises (and the few that managed to produce sequels almost always tanked at that point). People who were kids in the 80s may have loved 80s fantasy movies (I certainly did), which is part of why they became cult hits (and why some of them have gotten nostalgia-fueled remakes more recently), but that didn't really translate into success for them THEN. And in the context of the original discussion, Willow had multimedia tie-ins, but those failed, while Willow itself was generally seen as a failure (in spite of the fact that it technically made back its budget domestically). It was more successful internationally, but in the US it didn't really have the impact the behind it hoped it would (supposedly, Lucas himself was disappointed by it, which might explain why he never went back to that well in spite of it making its money back). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Any MENSA Members Here? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/12/21 2:54:39 PM #13 | I met the criteria when I was in college and considered applying, but I ultimately passed because I didn't really see any benefit to joining. It doesn't help that I knew at least a couple people in MENSA who were complete idiots, sort of underlining the difference between "book smarts" and "street smarts" even more. Just being able to complete standardized tests and solve puzzles doesn't really translate into being even remotely useful or successful in the real world. One of the most intelligent people I ever knew vis-a-vis IQ was also the sort of person who would forget entire conversations 15 minutes after having them and who used to eat candles in diners. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Do most boomers you know watch TV/YouTube for most of their non-working hours? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/11/21 7:58:12 AM #11 | Most Boomers I know barely use computers/smart phones. And when they do, they're mostly just on Facebook. Depends on where you draw the line for "Boomer", though. Technically it shouldn't include anyone under the age of 55 or so. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Some motherfucker just... |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/11/21 7:55:16 AM #13 | MICHALECOLE posted... Nice you got those dogs that call the cops for you You can train them to push a button with their paw. You just have to set up an automated system, and train them to bark into the receiver at the right times. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/11/21 7:37:44 AM #173 | Zeus posted... And sure, AEW -- as well as the WWE -- is going to come up on his podcast week to week because it's not like much other wrestling is running This isn't really a valid argument, considering he didn't really talk about much wrestling other than those two even before the pandemic. He mostly talks about the two most significant mainstream companies, and only really talks about other companies in the context of his own direct personal relationship with them in the past (TNA, MLW, NWA,RoH, etc). And the rest of the time he's talking about anecdotes from 30+ years ago during the territory days (which is where he's the most interesting/enlightening, IMO). It's the same reason why most wrestling YouTubers don't bother making review videos to cover Impact shows, but will cover WWE and AEW. Because that's where the interest is. He talks about AEW because it's popular enough to justify it. Not because he's got nothing else to talk about and is begrudgingly giving attention to something he otherwise wouldn't be giving the time of day. Zeus posted... While I can't remember him claiming that (nor was the idea new), it wouldn't have been his fault either way. It doesn't really matter if it's objectively his fault, he's said he himself at least partly considers it his fault. As to when he said it, it came up around the time the Dark Side of the Ring about the Montreal Screwjob came out, and he openly admitted that he was the one who suggested the idea (in spite of the fact that he'd pretty strongly alluded to that fact beforehand anyway, and as others have pointed out it's not as if Vince himself was unfamiliar with the concept - see also Wendi Richter/Moolah/"The Spider"). And he mentioned how no one expected Bret would go to the papers (in his own words, Cornette points out that Bret came from a wrestling family, his father had been a promoter, and Bret himself pretty clearly took wrestling more seriously than almost anyone else). But the end result was still a chain reaction that helped accelerate (or outright caused) the death of kayfabe, so for someone who holds kayfabe so precious, it could easily feel like a burden. Like, maybe some nights, he wakes up in a cold sweat and just goes "Oh God, this is all my fault!". Zeus posted... More importantly, that did less to expose the business than Duggan & Sheik getting caught smoking pot together or the Curtain Call, both of which happened earlier. As much as people talk those up, I'm not sure either is as significant as people act like they were (as least not in the long run/bigger picture), and they definitely didn't have the same impact on the industry as a whole as Montreal did. Or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjBeCwz2fXg The Curtain Call was almost unheard of outside of the smart fans (who already knew kayfabe was bullshit) and the fans in the arena that night (who didn't necessarily understand what they were seeing anyway). It didn't really resonate and shatter kayfabe across the board. It sent a few ripples, Trips got punished, everything got hushed up, the dirt sheets talked about it, the few nascent Internet wrestling boards probably talked about it a bit, and the majority of the mainstream audience never knew it happened. It didn't really do much to smarten anyone up who wasn't already "smart". As for Duggan and Sheik, I'm not sure that story ever really made it out the tri-state area (I've always had the impression the only reason I heard about it at the time was because it happened in NJ), and most of the people who would have been discussing it outside of the local area were already "smarts". It certainly had very little impact on the product or the fandom - I'd argue shit like "Duke The Dumpster", "The Goon", and "Abe Knuckleball Schwartz" did more to damage credibility around that period than the New Jersey State Troopers ever did. We tend to see them as more significant NOW because more "clued-in" fans today know about them than did at the time they actually happened. But that's hindsight bias. Though this leads me to another minor tangent - it might be worth an aside that I've never entirely bought into the philosophy that kayfabe is the END-ALL BE-ALL of wrestling anyway, because I honestly can't remember a time when I ever thought wrestling was real in the first place. PART of that might be because I grew up in the Northeast instead of Memphis/Mid-South/etc, where Vince was putting on ridiculous shows (and Hulk Hogan had his own cartoon!), part of it might be because I was always pretty smart/cynical in general even from a young age (and had a skeptical father who tended to encourage that style of thinking), maybe it was because having Mister T and Cyndi Lauper show up (while Captain Lou was hanging out with The Goonies) made it hard for me to assume any of this shit was real, or maybe for some other reason - but I feel like as early as the mid-80s I was blatantly aware that it was all acting and predetermined storylines. I was certainly aware of it by the time the Undertaker was murdered, rose to the Heavens, then reincarnated as two different people and he had to fight himself to reclaim his identity. All while Leslie Nielsen investigated in-character as Frank Drebin. And yet I still watched wrestling. I still liked wrestling. I still liked Austin, in spite of knowing he didn't get run over by a car for real. I watched ECW, and WCW, and WWF/WWE for years. And it wasn't really until the writing turned to shit that I stopped caring. And these days I find the behind-the-scenes shenanigans far more interesting than anything actually happening in any of the rings. But even when I DO watch wrestling, it's always the storylines that interest me far more than the actual athleticism. In spite of the fact that I know they're fictional. Zeus posted... Instead now it's the style that most people take one look at, laugh, and change the channel. Except the ratings have been creeping slightly higher every week, so at least some people aren't changing the channel. As opposed to the WWE, where every week there's a few more people who seem to go "Ehh, fuck this shit." Though it's also kind of interesting to remember that attempts to revive the old-school style of wrestling, the style that Cornette loves, the style that people claim would somehow revitalize the entire industry if it ever came back, never really seems to go anywhere even when people DO try to recreate it. NWA Powerrr might have come closest, but that hit its own roadblocks, and never managed to get a TV deal (though to be fair, the pandemic didn't help). There was a time when Westerns were the most popular genre ever - and then suddenly there was a time when they weren't. Pirate films went from being really popular, to utter cinema death, to popular, and then back again. The popularity of superheroes seems to go in cycles as well, at least in comics themselves. Like it or not, pop culture tastes are always changing. Maybe wrestling (which itself used to peak and dip in cycles!) is simply an idea whose time has passed, and no style of wrestling will ever be as popular again. Or maybe it was just hotshot-booked into oblivion in the late 90s/early 00s and the scorched earth still hasn't quite recovered. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/11/21 6:53:41 AM #172 | Zeus posted... Out of context? What more context can you give this crap? These are full length videos that the COMPANY itself is putting out there, like a toddler proud of showing his parents that they crapped their diaper. See, it's posts like this that kind of highlight the strength of your bias. Because your feelings about it are so damned strong, at this point you're never really going to be objective or open-minded about anything you see. Even if something was handled well, you'd never really be able to see it. But by context, I mean you're not really watching the show. You're listening to Cornette's opinions of the show, only hearing about the parts Cornette generally hates the most, having every facet and detail he objects to explained to you in deliberately rhetoric-driven language (which you're echoing in your posting style), and then going to YouTube to watch isolated clips you've already been poisoned against, which by your own admission are mostly the clips Cornette himself has ranted the most about. You're not really going to watch them to form your own opinion, you're going their to confirm his bias. At this point, even going to watch the full show for yourself wouldn't help, because you'd only be doing it so you can "prove" your pre-existing opinion. The irony is, I'm not even making the argument that AEW is great, or that every wrestling fan should love it. I'm just pointing out that you're no longer capable of being even remotely objective about it. Keep in mind, ALL of this started because I objected to your "slight" bias comment. All you've really been doing is proving my point. Zeus posted... It's telling that you highlight Dave Meltzer who has long been a Kenny Omega shill -- giving him 20-star matches years before AEW -- and whose excessive praise for AEW has led many to suspect that Tony Khan has been paying him (something reinforced by one of Meltzer's tweets to Cornette). It's also telling that Cornette used to be highly complimentary of Meltzer and would praise both his knowledge of the industry and his taste in wrestling right up to the point where the two disagreed over AEW, at which point Cornette's opinion changed 180 degrees and now he struggles to say even a single good thing about Meltzer retroactively (and they've both admitted they were friends before and now no longer speak to each other). This in spite of the fact that Cornette has basically implied multiple times that he used to be one of Meltzer's sources in the past (which itself is kind of ironic, because it means he was feeding behind-the-scenes info to "The Dirt Sheets", and effectively helping to hurt the very kayfabe he loves so much). He's had similar issues with Jim Ross (which Ross himself has called him out for, in spite of the fact that Ross seems to pretty clearly hate AEW himself, even as he's getting paid to pretend to care about it). It's also worth noting that the "many" who suspect Meltzer is getting paid are mostly just Cornette himself and his fans, so we're sort of caught in a self-reinforcing loop here (and even Cornette has implied in the past that he doesn't think Meltzer's getting paid as much as he likes the attention he gets from certain wrestlers sucking up to him). Zeus posted... Which is a silly go-to defense for trying to undermine legitimate opinions about how awful AEW is. Cornette can get a lot more attention by lambasting wrestlers people have actually heard of Which these days, would be pretty much no one. As you've pointed out, the wrestling industry has become so fringe, the mainstream has no clue who Roman Reigns is, let alone anyone further down the card. For the most part, unless we're talking Attitude Era, pre-Attitude Era, or John Cena, the vast majority of non wrestling fans have no idea who you're talking about. But Cornette isn't really fishing for those people. He's fishing for wrestling fans. And whether or not you agree, hating AEW is very fertile ground. He gets far more attention on Twitter and in social media circles in general by hating on AEW than he does hating on WWE (where most people agree with him). Which in turn boosts his fanbase. He's fully aware that bashing AEW helps keep him relevant (even aside from the fact that a lot of his fans basically ask him to bash AEW on a regular basis). Even if the reaction to that bashing doesn't translate into direct support (people who hate Cornette and what he says are more likely to listen to clips or angrily re-Tweet quotes than they are to listen to/subscribe to his show), it still keeps him in the public eye, which in turn helps draw audience to him. People who agree with his stance or who remember being wrestling fans 40 years ago may be more likely to find him when angry wrestling fans can't stop complaining about how much of an angry out-of-touch curmudgeon he is. SPEAKING OF WHICH... Zeus posted... and discussing wrestling incidents people actually care about than talking about AEW. If anything, Cornette bashing AEW has helped AEW since it's free publicity for people who enjoy watching train wrecks. Yes, that's always been Cornette's argument. It's also been completely full of shit almost from the very beginning. Like it or not, AEW had a built-in audience right from jump, long before Cornette started really ranting about them in earnest. You may not LIKE that audience, you may not AGREE with that audience, and you may engage in Cornette-like name-calling and ad hominems and "No True Scotsman" insults about that audience, but the audience exists. AEW really only exists because that audience existed first. No, there is not a large segment of people watching AEW solely to hate it because Cornette told them they should. You yourself are a pretty good example - for all that you've listened to Cornette bash it and how strongly you seem to feel about it yourself, you've never actually felt compelled to watch anything more than a few random clips online. The idea of "hatedom" is generally overblown regardless of whichever industry or content product is being discussed. Sure, hate can be a powerful drug, but usually people don't consume content they hate as much as they consume content that encourages them to hate something else, as part of a group. Cornette gets more out of encouraging you to hate AEW than AEW gets out of you hating it. Zeus posted... If you look at the top 10 videos on his YT channel -- which he'd stopped uploading to years ago after a dispute with YT so all of the videos are pretty recent and just clips from his podcast -- not ONE of those top videos is about AEW. They still upload full podcasts constantly - they just uploaded one in the last 24 hours. Both the Drive Thru and the Experience are uploaded weekly. And if you look at the numbers, he tends to uptick on AEW-flavored videos, though he upticks on anti-WWE videos even more, because most of the modern fanbase loves dunking on Vince. Though the videos that do best are ones that are "viral" - like his current clip about Nia Jax's moment on Raw this week. It's done more than twice as well as almost any other video in recent times, regardless of subject. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/11/21 6:09:19 AM #171 | Zeus posted... His complaints are based on credibility and realism. Yes, I know. But we're also talking about the person who booked Ninja Turtles to wrestle, so it's not like he's got a spotless track record in that area either. The problem is, suspension of disbelief doesn't mean "everything needs to look realistic", which is the tact Cornette often takes. To co-opt the TV/movie analogy, I can watch a show like Game of Thrones and not throw my TV remote in disgust because there's no such thing as dragons or magic in the real world, and thus, my immersion is completely ruined. If anything, the problem with GoT is shit writing - which is the same problem that is killing WWE these days. Cornette mostly complains because most wrestlers today all look smaller and weaker, wrestle a more athletic style, and then go play video games after work and don't get drunk and fuck groupies. And also Twitter. But again, I don't throw tantrums because Nikolaj Coster-Waldau isn't going around stabbing people in real life, Kit Harington looks too pretty to be an actual warrior fighting on The Wall, or because Maisie Williams doesn't Tweet in-character 24-7 as Arya. I can accept the premise that wrestlers are actors, that wrestlers can do things in combat that defy the laws of physics (in the same way Bruce Willis would have died about a dozen times over in Die Hard if it was the real world), and that they then go home and are different people than their characters. Cornette has trouble with that idea when it comes to wrestling, because he's so used to the idea of kayfabe meaning you can never drop character (which is part of his own problem). I understand WHY he thinks that way. I'd argue it isn't necessarily always correct. If you tell a logical - and above all, consistent - story, with characters the audience actually likes or relates to, the more superficial aspects of things can be justified. Realism doesn't mean slavish devotion to reality, it means presenting a product that feels real according to its own rules. Wrestling doesn't need to be entirely made up of guys who look like they could kick your ass and who spend most of their time hanging out in truck stops and dive bars to appeal. It mostly just needs better booking. THAT'S where the modern product tends to fall down (both in WWE and AEW). Even most modern wrestling fans will admit that. Cornette mostly just misses the forest for the trees. Zeus posted... As for demographics changing, they sure have -- the audience has shrunk to almost nothing and become absurdly fringe. Yes, I'm fully aware of all of the arguments Cornette uses when he bashes the current product (and I don't even necessarily disagree with most of them - like I said, I like Cornette). The problem is, the ability to see the symptoms doesn't mean you're drawing the right conclusions about the cause, and I think he's so mired in his own perception of what wrestling is and should be (and his own incredibly stubborn personality) that he can't really be objective about things and see the bigger picture. Which leads him to draw the wrong conclusions. The death of kayfabe probably did do more to hurt the industry than anything else. But that's not really a genie you can put back in the bottle, and even if Vince is 100% to blame (by pushing a more cartoonish product as early as the 80s, by dropping kayfabe almost entirely after Montreal, or by sanitizing the WWE into a PG product), it likely would have happened even without him (culture in general has grown MUCH more cynical over the last few decades, and constant media presence and omnipresent Internet and cel phone use makes it hard to keep almost anything secret for long). Kayfabe was going to die no matter what, and its death was going to negatively impact wrestling no matter who was running shows, or how. But once kayfabe is dead, you can't really magically wish it back to life and suddenly convince everyone that, sure, wrestling is fake and always has been, but YOUR company is the real deal. Which is the root of what Cornette essentially wants (and will never have). A significant part of the audience who wanted legit bloodsports just shifted their fandom to MMA/UFC (which itself has adopted more wrestling-style promotion tactics since Dana White took over). Those people are never coming back. Culture in general has shifted since the 80s - what used to sell wouldn't necessarily sell today (consider the dwindling popularity of circuses as people have gone from loving the spectacle to being bummed out by animal cruelty and terrified of clowns). The idea of two people getting together and beating the shit out of each other for real horrifies a lot of people (there's more criticism of boxing than ever), and a lot of those people are going to cringe even when the violence is simulated. We're sort of in a weird place, where "realism" might actually hurt wrestling more than help, because people who want realism just go and watch the real thing. Like it or not, the death of kayfabe (and other factors) has changed the landscape so severely, that just going back to do things the way they used to be done wouldn't necessarily lead to a new renaissance where all the old fandom suddenly comes back and wrestling is dominant again. It might just kill it faster. Wrestling needs to evolve (the same way it did when it became carny in the first place - there's a reason why people like the Gold Dust Trio are so important to the history of the industry). But what it becomes may be nothing like what it was - and unless it goes back to old-school territory-era southern wrasslin, Cornette will hate it. And that's without even getting into the argument that the media landscape as a whole is RADICALLY different today than it was decades ago, and that almost no product or content or industry is as successful as it used to be. Too many options competing for the same-ish number of ideas spreads the audience thinner, and channels, networks, and services. Even if wrestling shows were putting out a product better than ever before in the history of the industry, they still might not be able to top Attitude Era ratings. Because there are always other things to watch, see, or do. The territory system mostly worked the way it did because most people would never see content or shows from outside their local home region. Today, I can watch shows from the opposite side of the world the same second they're happening. That alone is a huge shift in how people view the product, even aside from the question of whether or not the wrestlers are burly thugs or video-game playing nerds. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/11/21 6:09:10 AM #170 | Zeus posted... I love how you give a long post without actually stating any of your own opinions about it >_> I've said multiple times in multiple posts that I don't really have a strong opinion of it, because when I watched it as a kid it didn't really appeal to me. My opinion of it is basically "meh". But I'm also open-minded enough to point out that just because I didn't like something 30+ years ago doesn't mean that other people can't like it now. Zeus posted... lolwut? There were probably more fantasy films in the 80s than the 90s. And, given that you mention the genre as a whole, the 80s were a time when D&D was really taking off. And most of them bombed (other than maybe the first Conan the Barbarian). Even Disney couldn't manage to mine the genre for success (Black Cauldron is literally used as the symbol of Disney's near-collapse as a creative force in the 70s/80s). Even the films that became popular cult hits that people still love and talk about decades later (like Labyrinth) failed in their own era (Labyrinth only made half its production budget back). As for D&D, not really. D&D took off in the late 70s, peaked very early in the 80s, and then spent the rest of the decade dying. But even at its peak, it was still fairly niche at best. As much as ET and Stranger Things would have you believe every kid in the 80s was playing D&D, they really weren't (almost none of the core books sold in the 80s ever sold better than 500k copies - by contrast, the 5e PHB sold more than that in the first two months alone). But none of that really matters anyway, because I was talking about fantasy movies, not fantasy as a whole across all media. Zeus posted... I'm not talking about Cornette's completely justified dislike for AEW and its "talent" (using talent pretty loosely for most of them), I'm talking about the introduction of bias from listening to Cornette about AEW. You're kind of missing my point. Because Cornette's bias is so strong, and because he's your main source of information about AEW, you're only hearing about the worst aspects of the company, and they're being painted in the worst possible light, so your own impression of the product is far more biased than you actually realize. It would be like you watching MSNBC and The Young Turks as your only news sources and being convinced that you fully understand every facet of modern politics. Zeus posted... VKM wouldn't hate AEW because the only thing he'd see it as a potential competitor and clearly it's no competition. He felt threatened enough to immediately counterprogram against their show in a desperate attempt to cost them ratings, and his show is regularly beaten by them in the ratings every single week. When you take demographics into account, their show is actually right on par with Raw, his beloved baby. The WWE also felt the need to completely restructure how they offer contracts in an attempt to lock up as much talent as possible, and then spent a few years refusing to fire or release anyone in an attempt to starve AEW of talent. They only really eased back on that because of the pandemic (where cutting costs to impress investors became more important), and after it became clear that it wasn't really hindering AEW anyway. VKM is seriously fucking bothered by the existence of AEW, no matter how hard Cornette likes to dismiss the idea that Vince cares. We're talking about the man who deliberately sabotaged and destroyed the UK indie scene because he was afraid that World of Sport could grow into a potential rival promotion halfway around the world... Vince does not like competition (no matter how often WWE likes to trot out the "Vince likes competition because it brings out the best in him" bullshit). Deep down he's always terrified of another WCW scenario, where some upstart rival he'd dismissed as a threat manages to find its feet and actually sucker-punch him into second place. Bischoff may have named his podcast 83 Weeks, but Vince probably still has nightmares about those 83 weeks to this day. Hell, even Cornette and Brian Last themselves have freely admitted that for all that they hate AEW, they still tend to like it more than the current WWE product. WWE really isn't attracting new fans, even NXT (which was the trendy, smark-favored brand for years). Regardless of what you might think of the product, AEW is. Zeus posted... You're going to need to explain that one. Cornette's mentioned that the Montreal Screwjob was his idea (though it's up to the individual to decide whether or not he's lying - considering other people have claimed credit for it as well, I'd argue his version of the story seems the most plausible). Or that, at the very least, he's the one who gave Vince the idea. He's also mentioned that the blowback from that was that Bret went to the newspapers afterward and annihilated kayfabe by ranting about how Vince screwed him. That, combined with the controversy it created (and the filmcrew literally filming everything behind the scenes for a documentary) drew more attention to the behind the scenes reality more than almost anything else. And then all the negative publicity from the fallout of the situation led Vince to give his "Bret screwed Bret" speech where he outright talked about "doing the job", what was "best for business", and the "time-honored tradition", before leaning fully into it and giving his "we're tired of insulting your intelligence" speech where he outright says "Sure, wrestling is fake and always has been" (at least partly due to the advantage of no longer having to pay sports taxes in New Jersey and other places). So when you talk about the idea that kayfabe is dead and buried, and that the lack of kayfabe is a large part of what has killed the industry as a whole, then at least some of the fault for that happening has to be traced back to Montreal. Cornette has openly said that he feels at least somewhat responsible - which then starts to feel like bitter irony when you realize no one on Earth mourns the death of kayfabe as much as Cornette does. He's basically like a Greek hero who destroyed everything he loved through his own accidental hubris. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | How long do you think it would take? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/10/21 11:38:01 AM #6 | Depends on your age - it's pretty much proven that it gets harder for humans to learn new languages as they get older. It also probably depends on how many languages you already know - it seems like it's easier for people who know multiple languages to learn a new one than it is for someone who only knows one. It also probably depends on just how much effort you're devoting to learning. If you're just taking classes to learn a language you could go years and still be completely unable to communicate with native speakers at anything more than the most basic level, but if you go live somewhere where most people are only speaking that language, you can become quite proficient in a matter of months (this is the main mechanic behind immersion learning). "Average" time to learn really isn't all that useful to generalize your own potential success, because there's a huge range of learning time for different people, and no guarantee that you're going to fall anywhere close to the middle. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Was puberty difficult? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/10/21 11:31:48 AM #12 | I don't remember it being all that difficult or traumatic or anything, either physically or socially. There was the usual teenage drama of relationships and such, but nowhere near as some people make it out to be. I didn't get a ton of zits, I didn't have any ridiculous voice-breaking or anything. Whenever people talk about how middle school/high school was the most terrible time of their entire life, I always kind of shake my head. That's about as unrelatable to me as the people who act like high school was the greatest time of their life and they've never done any better since. It wasn't really the best of times or the worst of times for me. It was just times. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | If the world continents didn't drift ever so slightly, we coulda had war ostrich |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/10/21 8:45:54 AM #8 | Lokarin posted... Ostrich are alllll natural, imagine what 200'000 years of breeding could have turned them into Probably nothing, because birds don't really benefit from larger size adaptation under normal conditions, and humans would have had no real reason to domesticate them to breed for those specific traits. It also doesn't help that there's a very narrow band of animals on Earth that can be realistically domesticated in the first place (there's a reason why only a few dozen species out of the millions we've encountered have ever really been domesticated, and most of those were domesticated thousands of years ago), and ostriches don't really fall into that category. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/10/21 4:05:30 AM #163 | Maybe not as nice as you think - as a novelist, Claremont makes a much better comic book writer. Back when he wrote his first novel, I jumped all over it because I loved him as the writer on X-Men, but I wasn't a huge fan of the book (or its sequel): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Flight_(novel) That might be because it was relatively hard sci-fi, though, and that's really not my genre of choice. No clue whether or not the Willow books are any good - I saw them in the bookstore years ago, but I never really bothered picking them up because by that point I'd already been disillusioned with the idea of Claremont as a novelist and because I never really cared about Willow as a setting/story. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Moon_(book) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Dawn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Star_(novel) They're all sequels to the movie, though, so if you do feel like tracking it down to watch it, you might want to hold off on reading too much about the books beforehand. I suppose if I watched Willow now I might have a different opinion of it (I was 10 when it came out and my tastes in fantasy leaned more towards LotR/Krull/Excalibur/Labyrinth/Neverending Story/etc by that point). The same might apply for The Dark Crystal - no matter how much of a cult hit it might have been for a lot of people from that era (enough so that the nostalgia got it a Netflix series 35 years later, at any rate), I just never got anything out of it. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | look what i fuckin found |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/10/21 3:53:53 AM #8 | Metalsonic66 posted... Carlos Alazraqui? That was the only one I knew as well. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/10/21 2:59:05 AM #161 | Zeus posted... Most of my exposure to AEW comes from hearing Cornette's trash-talk segments (so I'll admit a bit of a bias there) A little bias? Cornette is pretty much the most biased anti-AEW voice on the entire face of the planet. If the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega showed up and held someone's family and loved ones down while Tony Khan slit all their throats while they watched, that person still wouldn't hate AEW as much as Cornette does. Vince McMahon doesn't hate AEW as much as Cornette does. Bernie Sanders doesn't hate Trump as much as Cornette hates AEW. I actually like Cornette, but I just tune out completely whenever he talks about AEW at this point. He goes out of his way to paint every single thing they do as the worst possible thing in the world, and he decided to hate literally everything about the company long before he ever actually saw any of it. Which becomes kind of ridiculous when you realize that his hate for Kenny Omega is basically based on stuff Omega did years ago (which has prevented Cornette from being even remotely objective), and which has almost nothing to do with what he's actually doing now. It also doesn't help that 80% of Cornette's complaints about wrestling today are rooted in kayfabe, which is a ship that unfortunately sailed 20+ years ago (and as Cornette himself admits, it's something he himself is partly responsible for). He's holding the company to a standard that no modern company could ever live up to, and quite possibly shouldn't even try to live up to, because the audience demographics have changed so radically (a large part of why Vince is so out of touch these days as well). No matter how hard Cornette wishes that 70s/80s style "Southern wrasslin'" would make a comeback in the modern era, it's never going to happen. MMA/UFC absorbed most of that audience, and the audience for wrestling today is much different than it used to be. If most of what you know about AEW comes from what you hear Cornette tell you, then your view of the company is incredibly poisioned, and it's going to negatively shape your perception of any footage you DO see out of context on YouTube (especially if you're only looking for the "worst" aspects of the show, which are the things Cornette is most likely to talk about anyway). It would be like if your entire view of politics was shaped by only reading the political topics on PotD. The worst part is, as a lot of people have pointed out, the only reason he talks about AEW as much as he does in the first place is because he knows the more he bashes it, the more attention it gets him, and the more money it makes him via his podcasts. He basically ceased to be a real person years ago, and has basically transformed into his heel character more or less permanently (which is kind of appropriate, in a way, for someone who worships kayfabe as much as he does). He's basically trapped in a permanent state of cutting promos. It's telling that so many other wrestling analysts online love AEW (Dave Meltzer included), and that Cornette's only response to that is to call everyone who disagrees with him an idiot or a shill. Because it cannot possibly be that entertainment is subjective and different people will like different things, no, Cornette must be 100% objectively correct about everything he says about everything he ever talks about, and anyone who disagrees is objectively wrong. He's a brilliant wrestling mind, but he basically calcified somewhere in the 1990s, and most of his perception of the business since then is just "old man yelling at clouds". --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/10/21 2:32:11 AM #160 | Metalsonic66 posted... What's everyone's opinions on the movie Willow (1988)? It was kind of a critical failure. It actually more than made its money back (though people at the time would have been astonished by that fact - most people thought it was a huge bomb), but it never really caught on, in spite of having a number of media tie-ins. Fantasy was kind of a dead genre in the 80s. If you actually track it down and like it, there's a number of other things set in the world. Marvel did a comic adaptation of the film in the 80s, there are three novels set years after the film (plotted by Lucas and written by Chris Claremont, the famous X-Men writer from the 80s), and Disney+ is planning to do a series based on it next year. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Living paycheck to paycheck |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/09/21 9:40:03 AM #31 | BUMPED2002 posted... Do you typically live paycheck to paycheck? No, I live my life like there's no tomorrow. All I've got I had to steal, but at least I don't need to beg or borrow. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Youtuber Gets Killed For Prank Gone Wrong... |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/09/21 9:36:36 AM #11 | UnlikedMonkey posted... The other "prankster" (robber) should face charges for the death of his partner. Felony murder laws could technically apply. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Do you know how to draw? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/09/21 9:31:07 AM #2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXA--qhGOMw --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/09/21 8:02:39 AM #152 | Zeus posted... When picking weapons in a fantasy setting like that, I'd rather just go with a bow or magic and avoid all of that melee altogether I went off archery in games waaaay early, because I loathe ammunition mechanics for bows. And because I've always sort of had this underlying feeling of "If I wanted to shoot things from a distance, I'd just go play an FPS". A lot of the things I take for granted when shooting an assault rifle or marksman rifle in an FPS bother me when bows are involved. Especially if the aiming mechanics are kind of shit. When I'm playing fantasy I mostly just want to hit things (same reason why I rarely stealth, at least not very long after the initial attack). I like fantasy to be meaty, chunky, hack-and-slash. I want to melee my way into a pile of dudes and just cut them all down in a tornado of steel. And even in FPSes, I tend to prefer games that reward more aggressive, in-the-mix play (Halo, Doom) than I do ones where you're punished for being reckless and are more forced into more tactical play (like R6). I think the first time I ever really played a serious archer build in anything was either Skyrim or Dragon Age: Origins, and even then it was more "Well, I've already done everything else" (for DA there was also the added RP of "The Dalish are like 90% archers/hunters, so obviously I'm an archer"). And while I didn't hate those runs, they didn't really make me fall in love with the style either (and in Skyrim it feels so cheap because Archery+Stealth basically means you'll never be hit again and you kill nearly everything with only a couple attacks). And I've played games with archery since and never felt overly inclined to lean into it. I'm not adverse to magic, though it depends on the game and how it's handled. In Diablo 2 and 3 my main character picks were the Sorceress and Wizard and I was mostly a back-line ranged magic user (especially in groups with friends) - but I hated magic in Skyrim, and while I was willing to do magic runs (mainly when I was playing a character to complete the College quest line), it always felt like more of a burden than something I actually wanted to do. I usually treat magic the same way I do Alchemy in Skyrim - which is as something I exploit for support purposes, but nothing that I focus on or build my style around. In Skyrim, I mostly just level magic via cheaty means (like casting Soul Trap on corpses or constantly using Transmutation) for quick perk points and occasionally use minor healing magic, but then never, ever using it in actual combat. If I'm making a magic character in a game like D&D I take a couple damage spells but them dump the rest of my spell choices into utility and non-combat options (Prestidigitation and Mending are basically my must-have starting cantrips for every character and every class ever). I just finished replaying the KotOR games, and in those I played Sentinel for the balance of skills and physicality, and 99% of my combat was hitting things with lightsabers and ignoring the fact that I have Force powers. This mentality goes way back for me as well - when I played Baldur's Gate 2 for the first time 20 years ago, my immediate instinct for first character was Swashbuckler, basically giving me the Rogue's skill bonuses (mostly for lockpicking) at the expense of the Rogue's sneak attack/stealth advantages I never used anyway in favor of something closer to a Fighter's physical attacks (plus dual-wielding!). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Election fraud |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/08/21 10:52:48 AM #5 | BUMPED2002 posted... Studies have shown that there isn't enough election fraud to steal an 8th grade student council president election I actually knew of multiple school elections that were blatantly fixed when I was in school. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Geekacea: Dose One Edition |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/08/21 7:18:40 AM #143 | Zeus posted... Video extolling the virtue of battle axes. These are pretty much the only character types I ever use those weapons with. Though they still outrank hammers/clubs for me. I shun blunt weapons like the plague. Metalsonic66 posted... I always favored them in video games. Naruto_fan_42 posted... heavy melee weapons speak to me on a spiritual level My instinctive go-to is dual-wielding. Preferably with curved single-edge slashing weapons (scimitar, saber, cutlass, falchion, dao, katana, tachi, etc). It also tends to favor my normal playstyle - in a lot of games where combat style choices actually matter, dual-handing tends to be all about weaker quick strikes instead of stronger power strikes (especially in games where the dual-hander is basically forced to use daggers instead of swords), and I tend to prefer speed spamming and stun-locks over precision impact hits. It's part of why most of my go-to fighters in Fighting games were usually the female characters (like Chun Li or Talim). That also goes sort of hand-in-hand with the battle axe thing - the last time I made a Viking-flavored Barbarian character in D&D, I gave them twin handaxes (one of which did extra fire damage, and the other of which did extra cold damage). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Last game you played. Main antagonist in the game before. Seconds of your post. |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/08/21 5:51:43 AM #8 | So I'm in a Minecraft world, and I'm with... hmm. Who exactly is the "main" antagonist of KotOR2? Darth Nihilus? Darth Traya ( So, umm... Nathan Drake shows up, and either Nihilus devours his soul or Traya teaches me to use the Force and I explode his head. That's probably a win, at least until Nihilus eats the entire planet. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Have you played any of these games? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/08/21 5:47:22 AM #14 | Hello Neighbor is on there? I remember there was a period of time when a fair number of YouTubers were playing that and it didn't look that bad. Did it get review bombed because the developer was an asshole or something? Mead posted... I cant make them all out but I see Deus Ex aHappySacka posted... No but I have Deus Ex For a second I was like "Motherfucker, what?!", until I looked and saw that it's just the shitty mobile phone game they made for the franchise, not any of the actual main games. I was also kind of surprised to see a Fear Effect game on there, but then I realized it's the shitty Kickstarted game from Squeenix, which makes perfect sense. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | Should I even be friends with anyone that doesnt wanna hang oht with me? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/08/21 5:39:32 AM #5 | Kotenks posted... I don't think you're friends with them right now. Came in to say exactly this. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | badgers |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/08/21 1:53:14 AM #9 | Fierce_Deity_08 posted... Badgers? We dont need no stinking badgers! Yep, came in to say this. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | If you were to have a skyrim skill tree? Which would you choose? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/08/21 1:51:53 AM #10 | NeoSioType posted... How do the magic trees work? They're designed for magic that already exists. This. About half the options you did include are basically worthless skill trees that won't do anything in real life. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | How often do you actually play retro consoles anymore? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/08/21 1:46:54 AM #4 | GrabASnickers posted... I'll leave it up to you what you consider retro Ehh, that kind of makes the entire conversation sort of amorphous at best. I mean, I'm playing Minecraft on my Xbox 360, is that retro now? Not too long ago, I played Baldur's Gate 2 on my PS4 - is that retro? --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | You can get 1 skyrim skill tree irl, what do you pick? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/08/21 1:44:36 AM #38 | Muscles posted... You are limited to real world ingredients though That's hardly fair. By the same logic, none of the magic school skill trees should have any effect whatsoever, because magic doesn't eixst in the real world either. If I'm picking Smithing, it should imply that I get access to weird dwarf and elf metals, dragon scale gear, and magical never-melting ice even if no one else does. About 90% of the skill trees in Skyrim would be completely useless outside of Tamriel. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | You can get 1 skyrim skill tree irl, what do you pick? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/08/21 1:43:21 AM #37 | Joshs Name posted... if I had a 30% higher chance to persuade you I would argue with you +30% chance of persuading Sunny is still just wasting 100% of your time. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
| Topic | what mindless grinding game are you playing right now? |
| ParanoidObsessive 02/06/21 6:03:04 PM #27 | Mead posted... Dont try to sell your game to me by making it less fun. This is literally the entire FtP model, honestly. The real problem is when publishers figure out that they can slip that shit into premium games that cost $60+, then make the entire game experience worst solely to extort you into paying. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family |
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