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BlakPeppa posted...

He said he hasn't seen a single MCU show, so I'm assuming he's talking about the Netflix and ABC shows. They are pretty heavily debated to be non-canon.

Ah ok, I'm going to go non canon on those as well

Some body said these Disney Plus shows aren't canon? They literally star characters from the movies. I can't remember a movie outside of the avengers movies and maybe black panther that generated the same online buzz as Wandavision.

Hold on to your precious canon darlings such as Hulk, Thor The dark world, iron man 2/3

Time travel and multiple universes always sucks

Too many plotholes. People will give up story telling for crossovers with dead (for a reason) franchises

Questionmarktarius posted...

"This is how we can get RDJ to do another dozen MCU films"

I doubt they want him back. RDJ takes insane money and MCU has been successful without him

Ricemills posted...

yes, but Endgame has show us that it wasn't the case. or else the time heist would be pointless.

@_@

You're right. Damn.

I think in comics, maybe spoilers

infinity stones are useless outside of their universe or timeline

Hyped.

Marvel is 2/2 for me. Hopefully this continues the trend. I enjoyed WV and falcom more than most of their movies

Loki is a frost giant and they all sort of look the same. Maybe genders don't apply to their species

Marvel>star wars>harry potter>>>dc

Had to think between star wars and harry potter. Star wars hit lower lows and higher highs

It's not bad. I have to defend it from people that say it's the worst MCU movie when I think it's like 7th or 8th worst

Xerun posted...

WV/FatWS had more consistency. Mando had better single episodes but worse episodes. So think Ill give it to the Marvel side.

That being said I havent forgiven WV for the huge fake out

Nothing in falcon or wandavisiom is as bad as frog lady and her eggs

I got falcon>wandavis>mando s2>mando s1

DarthAragorn posted...

both marvel shows fizzled out at the end so mandalorian wins

I'd agree that the mandalorian seasons ended better but a lot of both mandalorian seasons felt like filler

Disney has released 2 seasons of live action Star Wars and Marvel shows on Disney plus.

Which combo did you like more?

I think they're all good but I'll take the Marvel combo easily.

It had flaws for sure but Yondu's death was so well done

An underrated console, I got a lot out of it. That said you needed another console or PC that gen and the last 2-3 years for that console were brutal.

Also Nintendo did some scummy shit, forcing fans to beg for Xenoblade chronicles

Let's let Tom Holland have some of his own stories first, then when the actor starts getting too old he can be retired for Miles

Hugo Weaving wasted himself, he was supposed to come for more but he decided he wantes to retire so they made the character float around in space

I think just give it to Shuri and backstage tell her she's been given the golden role she doesn't deserve and to just stay quiet

daynlokki posted...

Well I mean the first one grossed more than the first matrix.

For movies they do very well but for MCU movies they don't. I'm happy we get them because I enjoy them but ant man and the wasp grossed the least out of its phase

I'm surprised Amt man keeps getting movies, they usually do less than the Marvel movies around them

sHe KnOwS SoMeThInG b0uT t3H cHiPs

re cast shuri, give it to her

Guess blade, deadpool 3 and captain america 4 are still a while away

Slayer_22 posted...

Not a single Spider-Man comic? Wtf?

Comic hawkeye must be a billion times better than mcu hawkeye

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Yeah Spider-Man is a Sony date and theres not much Disney can do about it, besides asking nicely to move it basically.

The others are just a COVID casualty.

I doubt thor and dr strange come out so close to each other

saspa posted...

On the one hand, amazing. On the other, This seems unreal. They're really going to give their movies only 1 month in the theater, sometimes less before the next one? Won't that cut into the box office sales of each other?

Usually they give at least 3 months if not more since that's the time when everyone who would want to see a movie has seen it.

Eternals goes to disney and spider man to sony? I think that's how it works. Not sure about next year

Guerrilla Soldier posted...

so basically there's nothing interesting until december?

that's a long wait

To each their own. I thought wandavision amd falcon were both better than thr mcu spidey movies

RadiantJoyrock posted...

All correct. We've seen little hints of them around but ego is the only one with a real part so far. And yeah, Galactus is something a lot more powerful, more like an elemental force.

I may be wrong but aren't the collector and grand master as well?

Based on that sched they should move Loki up a few weeks. There's going to be an overlap with black widow

ImAMarvel posted...

I'm surprised no one's really talking about how Eli Bradley debuted in F&WS too.

God, I can't wait. the original YA run was one of the first comics I ever read.

He airball'd an open shot, he's not avengers material

I dig it, just need to get that underwear off his neck

I think I'm higher on it than most. I really dug it, far from perfect. The villain wasn't great, one big twist was bad. The 2 leads were good but 2 side characters killed it

Darmik posted...

Really instead of the show starting with a 20 minute action scene that was barely relevant again that should have been cut down and the intro should have been the chaos of perspective of people who have settled in their new lives suddenly having to deal with people coming back which was the scene that was really missing for the Flagsmashers.

I think the implication is they need to try and find a solution for everyone instead of just trying to force things back to how they were before.

I liked that sequence but I agree and could have used that budget elsewhere too

When Steve was given the title of captain america all he did was chase down one regular Hydra guy

cuttin_in_farm posted...

So... did Sam actually defeat anyone?

Bucky recaptured Zemo.

Walker, Zemo, and Sharons men got rid of Karlis followers.

Sharon killed Kari before Sam could apprehend (or before he himself gets shot).

Does no one else think Sam didnt actually do anything important? He wasnt even present when the guy who sposedly wanted revenge on him was defeated.

I just realized why the finale especially bothered me. Sam didnt actually have anything to do. While everyone else had important battles, this dude was chasing one helicopter half the episode.

Is his super hero-ness based on who he killed? He held his own against super soldiers all series. Saved people and gave a speech that saved millions from being booted out. He was actively not trying to hurt Karli

008Zulu posted...

Batroc: How much could I get for your bird suit?

Falcon: Maybe a baguette, and some french fries.

Batroc wasn't that cunning of a villain. He pointed a gun at Karli and threatened Sharon...who also had a gun

Walker making a bootleg shield in his garage was a better post credit scene than sharon being bad

I liked it. Top 10 MCU outing for me.

Isaiah, Zemo and Walker were highlights

Sam and Bucky a level lower

Sharon an even lower level

Bottom tier was Karli and gang

Let's give the symbol of America to a guy who spent 70 years brainwashed and killing for hydra then when he gained his mind back he was blipped for 5 years.

Sam at least took out a heli carrier which was about to shoot down millions of people including Dr Strange

I thought both wandavision and falcon were of equivalent qualities, with endings for both being weaker than the rest of the show. Some of it I attribute to growing pains, MCU's first shows after all. Bring on Loki.

This show's strongest characters turned out to be Isaiah, Zemo and Walker. Sam and Bucky a level below. Karli and gang end up being more generic MCU villains but the MCU has pumped out worse villains

Teh_Dr_Phil posted...

Thats on you for expecting something else, IMO. Were you expecting a rando like Julias character to pop up and reveal themselves to be the Broker or something?

not to mention dull is entirely subjective considering where her character started, who she is related to, etc. its pretty big for someone associated with a family that has a history of serving the country, especially if Steve....yeah...I digress. Anyway, its big that she turned her back on said country and went rogue.

My guess was it stays a mystery. I do wonder why she let zemo and crew so close to the golden goose. why she killed Selby.

I will say I am digging new Sam and totally ready for him to be Cap in a show or movie.

When Steve gave it to him in endgame it felt unearned because Steve went on a big adventure and this guy was dusted for 5 years then comes back and becomes Cap. I'm glad there was a story to him earning it.

GhettoFlip posted...

Karli is the weakest part of the show

where the hell did this teenager get the skills to be able to fight highly trained guys like Bucky and Walker?

When she took the serum and she only really held on when she had the numbers advantage

Teh_Dr_Phil posted...

Sharon as the Broker is underwhelming if youve been living under a rock, sure. It was foreshadowed from the get go and only became more and more obvious as the series went on.

I know it was hinted but a dull side character being a mysterious behind the scenes entity is underwhelming to me

Sharon being the broker is some how more underwhelming than Ralph boner. Unless she's a skrull

I was surprised to see Karli and squad die, I expected them to stick around but they'll join the MCU's list of what ever one time villains

Liked the Isaiah memorial part

Sam's got some cool action moments, his GRC speech went on too long.

Bucky felt like the secondary guy, wish they put more emotion into him and the old man there

It was a fine ending but I felt slightly below the show.

Lame post credit scene

Walker being buddies with Sam and bucky already was lame

Overall liked the show but it sort of went out with a whimper, kind of like wandavision did

Stalolin posted...

Ahh yes, the poop tier.

I think it has more to do with them just being normal people in over their heads who got a special super serum. John Walker cleaned house with them

Stalolin posted...

This is true, but I think it could be done to some degree. FATWS shows that even though theyre super soldiers they can still get tackled or grappled or knocked around, theyre not complete statues. He could do a lot of stuff with throwing them around using their momentum, kind of like a judo style thing. I do like the idea of just having him own the rings and that way he can tangle with more Avengers level threats.

While they are for sure above human, I think the flag smashers are the lowest tier of super soldiers

ImAMarvel posted...

Sam is a little questionable but he was never sent flying the way Lamar was. Spider-Man? lol Spider-Man is straight up superhuman. He was literally hit by a train, not only survived, but was just fine like a few days later.

In civil war spiderman caught a metal punch from bucky casually. The same spiderman gave same a kick and a smack to the face and he was fine.

Sam's also been taking hits from super soldiers in the show. He definitely has some pot armor

ImAMarvel posted...

I feel like essentially being a human aimbot is a little more easy to believe than actually being able to tangle with super soldiers like the Flag Smashers from F&WS without any powers, even if you are the world's greatest martial artist. I mean, look what happened to Lamar Hoskins.

I feel like that one's a little better, as it looks a bit more like a superhero costume. The double breasted look with the yellow breaking it up at least gives it more of a distinctive look and breaks up the red.

Weird thing is sam took hits from multiple super soldiers and spiderman and shrugged them off just fine

ImAMarvel posted...

Honestly, I could see it. Shang-Chi's powers and abilities are pretty much that he's just an incredibly strong martial artist. He's like Cassandra Cain, where he can do shit like rip through metal or dodge bullets through bullshit shonen anime training and chi manipulation. But I think they'll probably tone that down b/c 'MCU' (it'd be kinda hard to justify that when you have super soldiers running around and no one should be able to stand up next to them without superpowers of their own) and give him a little something to make him more distinctive as a hero.

I still think his costume would be a little boring, even with those. Maybe a sash or something around his waist would make it stand out a little more, though even that's not really too exciting either. Maybe if they made it a futuristic black belt or something.

The only way to justify it is if he is so good with martial arts that he can take down super powered individuals...it sounds bs but people say hawkeye has no powers when he literally has aimbot