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| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 2:43:08 AM #41 | TheoryzC posted... You liked Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? yeah one of the top movies of the 2010s for sure --- |
| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 2:37:19 AM #39 | Smashingpmkns posted... Guessing you didn't watch I'm Thinking of Ending Things either. Astonishingly bad movie. Mank and Chicago 7 also not good. --- |
| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 2:36:48 AM #38 | Darmik posted... And yet you used George Lucas as a positive example? What's the difference between content and cinema and how is this any different to the 80s, 90s and 2000s? You're making up random percentages and not really backing them up. Content is using a brand to entice viewers while not actually putting any effort into making something good. Cinema is like when someone has a unique signature in the art. This can be good or bad (hence Lucas) fwiw. The % is calculated by me watching a lot of movies. --- |
| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 2:23:37 AM #33 | Darmik posted... You mention Nolan but then act like he didn't make some weird time travel movie a year ago. You're somehow already forgot that Snyder cratered an entire cinematic universe because nobody told him 'no'. The new Star Wars trilogy sabotaged itself because the film makers got to do what they wanted. Only seen Black Panther from Coogler and if that is his own unique vision then he's not much of a filmmaker. Same with Waititi but with Jojo Rabbit. Both bad movies. Zack Snyder is cinema for sure, albeit bad. And Netflix will get some with the two Knives Out sequels (irony) while Star Wars tanks in quality without Rian. Didn't see Tenet but Nolan only makes one movie every five years. We're definitely getting like 99% content and 1% cinema. Especially with streaming exclusive stuff which is what I was talking about in OP and we are kinda getting, like, super far away from that... --- |
| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 2:13:31 AM #27 | fuming posted... that's the top 10 films though? in-between the blockbusters and straight to video films is usually where you would find the interesting stuff. The best movie of 1998 is probably Buffalo '66. --- |
| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 2:10:53 AM #24 | Smashingpmkns posted... 2020 was a pretty decent year for Netflix. Pretty sure Netflix didn't have any good movies come out in 2020 except for maybe Da 5 Bloods which I never got around to. --- |
| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 2:10:07 AM #23 | Darmik posted... Every single top box office movie since 1991 has either spawned a franchise or was already part of one with the exception of Titanic, Armageddon and whatever Ba Bai is. Okay, sure, fine, franchise filmmaking in Hollywood really kicked into gear with Star Wars, but filmmakers still had a degree of control until a lot more recently. You can see this with Spielberg and Indy or the Wachowskis taking big swings with Matrix and Nolan with Batman, etc. Even Lucas with the prequels had no one telling him 'no.' With streaming it is literally just like dangling a carrot in front of someone though, teasing them with IP to keep you subscribing and they do the absolute bare minimum (simply make the movie/show) and people hang around. It's stupid. Just watch something different. It isn't hard. Chances are you will find infinite things to enjoy!!! --- |
| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 1:59:57 AM #17 | Smashingpmkns posted... Netflix distributes a lot of good movies like the Irishman, Beasts of No Nation, Buster Scruggs etc. There's really no point in them producing them because those types of movies don't bring in a whole lot of new subscribers on any of these major platforms. TBH given how much money netflix spends it is genuinely insane they can only manage to average one good movie per year. --- |
| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 1:58:00 AM #16 | Questionmarktarius posted... Criterion Channel exists. yeah criterion channel owns need to see red beard soon to continue my kurosawa-thon three hours though, kinda scary --- |
| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 1:56:09 AM #14 | Darmik posted... How is that any different to how things were before the rise of streaming? We got original movies all the time. Good ones. At an alarming frequency. Now we just get franchise fodder since The Dark Knight and Iron Man fucked everything up in 2008. Disappointing tbh. Also going on a vaguely related rant but given that everything has been streaming-only for the past year I have to laugh at the irony of no one having seen the Oscar nominees and people complaining about them picking movies no one has heard of when they've been sitting on Amazon or Netflix or Hulu or whatever this entire time. People are so fucking lazy. All intellectual curiosity has died in the past few years as people settle for whatever is marketed at them. Sad! --- |
| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 1:46:36 AM #6 | ImmatureContent posted... They care about money. They make money by giving people what they want. People want familiarity. Not a fan of immature content myself. I'm a grownup who has moved past the need to rewatch things that were popular in my childhood. --- |
| Topic | Getting really tired of all this bullshit on streaming services. |
| Zithers 04/28/21 1:39:29 AM #1 | Which do you prefer?
Vote
How hard is it do come up with something new? Or, I dunno, do a remake of a smaller property no one remembers that had some cool ideas but wasn't well-executed? Would rather watch something made with purpose and a vision, you know, cinema that will be remembered, instead of something just cranked out to get dumped into the streaming black hole, immediately erased from cultural memory after it's been binged by everyone opening weekend. Anyone else with me on this? --- |
| Topic | 72% of all adults live within 20 miles from where they grew up. How far do you |
| Zithers 04/26/21 1:39:37 AM #17 | |
| Topic | Ranking the Best Picture nominees. |
| Zithers 04/26/21 1:23:56 AM #12 | |
| Topic | Ranking the Best Picture nominees. |
| Zithers 04/25/21 7:59:54 PM #7 | |
| Topic | Ranking the Best Picture nominees. |
| Zithers 04/25/21 6:00:10 PM #6 | K181 posted... This is the first year that I can remember where I didn't see any of the best picture nominees. My wife and I are huge cinephiles but our movie watching habits have completely fallen to the wayside without going to theaters. yeah streaming stuff is bad movies in theaters much better --- |
| Topic | Ranking the Best Picture nominees. |
| Zithers 04/25/21 2:55:40 PM #3 | Phantom_Nook posted... I've still only seen Chicago 7 and Nomadland. Been really lagging this year as far as nominated stuff goes. hard to get excited about watching them tbh still need to see tenet, first cow, wolfwalkers, soul, another round, some other sorta notable movies from the year 2020 tho seems like a fake and lame year for movies and most everything else probably, ready to move past it --- |
| Topic | Ranking the Best Picture nominees. |
| Zithers 04/25/21 2:41:01 PM #1 | I finally decided to do my annual quest to watch the nominees. I was tapped out of new releases in 2020, having only seen Mank before the nominees were announced. First tier, probably all 6-7 on an arbitrary 10 point scale. Judas and the Black Messiah - Probably the best directed movie of the bunch. Looks great (Sean Bobbitt from 12 Years a Slave, Place Beyond the Pines, etc shot it), sounds great, captures angry/desperate tone. But the characters are a bit half-baked. Doesn't capture LaKeith Stanfield's traitor character's paranoia as well as it could have nor did it really follow Kaluuya as Fred Hampton close enough to make his inevitable murder as heartbreaking. I felt like we saw Hampton too much as a Black Panther leader and not enough as a regular guy who wants to be a good dad/husband. Stanfield also seemed a bit stiff. Disappointing cuz I keep seeing people say he's great. Sound of Metal - Riz Ahmed does a lot of mugging in this one. TBH the movie may have been better if it went balls to the wall and just made the entire movie sound like his perspective. I really liked Paul Raci as the guy who leads this deaf addict community though. Has three really good scenes near the end which helps the kinda whatever movie before that. The Father - Sort of gimmicky to the point where I'm not sure it'd be good on multiple viewings but it was effective enough for first viewing. Hopkins gets to go on a lot of wild monologues and the Olivia actresses are good as well. Good use of spatial filmmaking because the camera turn a corner and all of a sudden you're wondering if you're in the same setting, which puts you in same mindset as Hopkins' character. Middle tier, probably all 4-6 on an arbitrary 10 point scale. Minari - This was an agreeable enough of a movie. But pretty Sundance-y. Has a precocious kid, whacky grandma, sweeping score that plays as people hold their hands out to touch the grass in a sun-drenched field, has a big melodramatic ending despite otherwise being a low-key movie, etc. Has a few laughs at least. Wonder if A24 marketing made this more popular. Mank - Hideously ugly movie. They said they wanted to emulate the look of old movies so they go black and white but they shot it digitally. Honestly it almost looks like everything was green screen. As an big fan of old movies you'd think this subject matter would be up my alley but wow no it's really boring. Has a weird framing device flashing back on Mank's life as how he's becoming inspired to write the Citizen Kane screenplay. There's a side plot about making political propaganda to take down the evil socialist, Upton Sinclair, and tbh an entire movie could have been about this and been way more interesting. Oh well. Promising Young Woman - Really stupid movie about a woman who acts drunk at bars so that men take her home to try and take advantage of her and then... she reveals she's sober and scares the shit out of them. I dunno. It has a very obvious Wes Anderson influence with the quirky sets and center placed camera but has such a clearly sleazy, fucked up premise as you find out more. Would have been better if it leaned more into a thriller direction. Has a very contrived ending with cops being the good guys when they always let young women down in these kinds of situations lol! Really bad ending but the movie is kind of fun if not extremely stupid before that. Bad tier The Trial of the Chicago 7 - Don't think Sorkin is suited for this material. He tosses in Sorkinisms when its ostensibly a movie about centrists and the right trying to tear down people fighting for equality and being anti-war. Should have been in the hands of someone angrier and less focused on quips and the screenplay. Of course it ends with the right wing prosecutor clapping for the defendants (this did not happen in real life). Horrific Frank Langella mugging, really everyone (Redmayne also horrible with whatever accent he was doing) was bad except Mark Rylance and Michael Keaton. But it is shot handsomely and has big Oscar baity scenes so it had to be nominated I guess. Nomadland - Really fucking boring. I see a lot of people railing on it for its handling of Amazon (the lead character does seasonal work in a warehouse) but I more just take umbrage with the movie being a bore. Frances McDormand drives her van around the desert listening to non-actors tell their stories. They'll give a sad monologue and then there's an awkward cut to Frances reacting to it when she is very clearly NOT reacting to this story and it's a take that was made later. Maximum cringe. Also has a weird score that sounds more in place in a Victorian romantic drama instead of a movie where Frances is having diarrhea in a bucket in her van. Lots of golden hour shots to make easily impressionable people swoon. This is the favorite to win Best Picture and would be the worst winner of the last decade, I think. None of the nominees are as good as the last movie I saw in theaters, Emma, btw. Probably the worst lineup I've seen since I started following the ceremony in 2009. Can't wait to watch the show tonight. Steven Soderbergh is directing it! WOO! --- |
| Topic | Rumor is that Warner Bros is discontinuing physical media in 2022. |
| Zithers 04/23/21 5:12:41 PM #33 | |
| Topic | Rumor is that Warner Bros is discontinuing physical media in 2022. |
| Zithers 04/22/21 12:23:22 PM #14 | |
| Topic | Rumor is that Warner Bros is discontinuing physical media in 2022. |
| Zithers 04/22/21 2:49:35 AM #8 | |
| Topic | Rumor is that Warner Bros is discontinuing physical media in 2022. |
| Zithers 04/22/21 2:15:07 AM #6 | armandro posted... what 4k blu rays should I buy? stop posting in my threads --- |
| Topic | Rumor is that Warner Bros is discontinuing physical media in 2022. |
| Zithers 04/22/21 2:00:01 AM #1 | https://twitter.com/peng_says/status/1383990543986814980?s=21 Timeline: AT&T buys Warner Bros and then shuts down FilmStruck which was a WB streaming service that had like every single Warner Bros movie made before 1960. HBO Max is created and does not have those movies FilmStruck had. It's announced that Warner Archive, the label that distributes Warner Bros' old titles, is having its shop closed and merging with Universal. The shop just closed a couple weeks ago and the exclusive place to purchase WA titles is now... Amazon. Anyway, AT&T sucks. Glad our government, whether red or blue, ignores anti-trust laws and allowed monopolies to happen and erase our cultural memory! Are you excited to pay for a streaming service in perpetuity without even having all of a studio's library at your fingertips? lol! --- |
| Topic | Forgot to ask everyone to rate my movie purchases... |
| Zithers 04/11/21 3:56:55 PM #8 | Slayer1030 posted... I've heard of exactly none of those you havent heard of the irishman, directed by god scorsese? --- |
| Topic | Forgot to ask everyone to rate my movie purchases... |
| Zithers 04/11/21 3:55:11 PM #6 | TroutPaste posted... Footlight Parade watching rays yankees rn go rays --- |
| Topic | Forgot to ask everyone to rate my movie purchases... |
| Zithers 04/11/21 3:54:28 PM #5 | ApherosyLove posted... I was told to bump this topic. did you wash your hands before bumping it --- |
| Topic | Forgot to ask everyone to rate my movie purchases... |
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| Topic | Forgot to ask everyone to rate my movie purchases... |
| Zithers 04/11/21 4:24:04 AM #1 | Bought some stuff during the Criterion Collection and Warner Archive sales over the past month or two: The Bad and the Beautiful Bay of Angels The Best Years of Our Lives The Big Parade Brigadoon Donkey Skin Footlight Parade Gaslight (1940) Gaslight (1944) The Hudsucker Proxy The Irishman It's Always Fair Weather Lola On Dangerous Ground Police Story Police Story 2 The Shop Around the Corner The Umbrellas of Cherbourg Un chambre en ville Wagon Master The World of Jacques Demy The Young Girls of Rochefort The Young Girls Turn 25 Feel free to post your own recent movie purchases. Had to splurge on Warner Archive (11 SKUs) because they are closing their shop. Merging with Universal at an undetermined time. The shop they used to have did a sweet ass 4 movies for $44 sale (or 5 for $55, etc) and this was their last sale before closing. That sale is probably gone forever now. Warner Archive currently has their shop on Amazon. GROSS! No thanks. Criterion movies came from their flash sale that they do twice a year. Think I'm up to ~270 feature movies on disc now. :D --- |
| Topic | Old movies had better plot structure |
| Zithers 04/03/21 2:02:46 PM #34 | |
| Topic | Old movies had better plot structure |
| Zithers 04/03/21 3:11:30 AM #31 | Jiek_Fafn posted... They had fewer scene changes and filled a lot of time with dialogue. Partly because sets were expensive and partly because they had a closer tie to plays which have fewer scene changes for obvious reasons. Also, they generally weren't doing a lot if shooting from different angles to make cool looking cuts. Youre forced into using words then to keep everything engaging. lmao --- |
| Topic | Old movies had better plot structure |
| Zithers 04/02/21 3:15:12 AM #8 | movies today are bad the end --- |
| Topic | These are 9 live action movies I really like. Feel free to judge them harshly |
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| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/09/21 5:22:00 PM #172 | Smashingpmkns posted... Lmao wtf every A24, Neon, Magnolia etc movie I've seen were either at a AMC or a fucking Cinemark. You're pulling shit right out of your ass. Arthouse theaters for a fucking A24 movie lmao gtfo out of here. have never seen any of those at an amc. the numbers certainly don't make it seem like they get a lot of play. isn't a24's largest grosser lady bird with 33m or something? then parasite got a boost since neon pumped a ton of money into its campaign and marketing to the point of it getting an oscar win. again - all of this stuff with movies being popular has less to do with quality and more with marketing. big reminder to everyone reading this that popular movies only achieve that status through advertising!!! also going back to the textbook that bob posted, its barely worth responding to. it focuses a lot on genre. i see him mention horror and action movies and nothing is stopping those from being cinema. nobody even thinks superhero movies are inherently not cinema. its just in the corporate framework they are birthed in prevents them from being creative and making something magical. i don't care about what genre a movie is, i like westerns and musicals and noir and horror and action, just as long as its good. same with most other people who are self proclaimed cinephiles. he also mentions the lighthouse as if its some kind of major mainstream success. it made $18m. it didn't even play in 1,000 theaters. maybe we have different definitions of the term. --- |
| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/09/21 5:07:39 PM #170 | Smashingpmkns posted... None of that is new to the industry (as I've already pointed out prior) and they're not making less small movies. These major studios still release a shit ton of small movies. The only one that doesn't is Universal really and they're not even involved in the comic book movie scene. yeah block booking isnt new but that doesnt mean it isnt any less stupid. and they are making less small movies. small moves are increasingly only going to streamers (which are dominating festivals which is another issue), a24, neon, o-scope, magnolia, etc. or are just foreign movies. and these movies don't make a dent anywhere outside of large cities that have arthouse theaters. cuz those movies can't play at amc bc amc has to make deals with major studios on account of block booking... do you see where im going with this --- |
| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/09/21 4:39:23 PM #166 | Smashingpmkns posted... Causation =/= correlation. Also wouldn't them releasing less movies be better for smaller studios? Lmao as i've already stated, studios focus less on making more smaller movies and instead dump all of their money into producing and marketing large titles that bring in a large profit. this isnt a hard concept to understand. plus they do block booking where you have to play a month of some stupid animal documentary disney produced if you want to get the new star wars or marvel thing and you have to play that on your biggest screen for x weeks. which again... bullies small movies off the screen and puts them in smaller theaters. and the length is another factor. mcu and star wars movies are absurdly long which, again, sucks up more screen time. btw how do those boots taste?? --- |
| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/09/21 4:20:08 PM #164 | Smashingpmkns posted... This absolutely is not true. the majors release less movies than ever these days, actually, so it is true. another point where you're - surprise - wrong! --- |
| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/09/21 2:29:59 PM #151 | Smashingpmkns posted... Lol so are you mad that comic movies are over saturated or that they make a ton of money? Because western movies were demonstrably saturated the industry more than these comic movies could ever hope to be and a good majority of them were garbage soulless movies made by committee to appease to brain dead moviegoers. We're arguing like 3 different things right here and for some reason you're focusing on the money, which is proof that this super hero fatigue isn't hitting any time soon. the goal of the major studios today is to make less movies and to make them long, so that they suck up as many screens as possible and bully out smaller movies. the marketing budget on these superhero movies are probably almost equal to their production budgets. everyone will want to go see them regardless of quality. and then this bullies smaller movies off screens due to a) smaller marketing and b) the long runtimes take up every screen. quota quickies that were the second part of a double bill are... obviously not comparable. are you even doing any kind of critical thinking rn? --- |
| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/08/21 6:13:38 PM #141 | Smashingpmkns posted... Westerns made up a quarter of the movies produced in Hollywood in the 30s/40s and also dominated the box office lol they are analogous to one another with the exception that Westerns were way more oversaturated. Fairly certain all of this is 100% false like how often was over half of the top ten in box office westerns and when was their market share 1/3 of tickets sold lmfao --- |
| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/08/21 1:19:08 AM #128 | Smashingpmkns posted... The Western craze in Hollywood lasted roughly 50 or 60 years and were way more oversaturated than comic movies. there hasnt been a craze, ever, similar to today with superhero movies there was never a year when a single genre dominated the box office like the mcu (and to lesser extent dcu) does today --- |
| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/07/21 8:33:18 PM #83 | Killmonger posted... What exactly is "cinema"? First of all, is there a difference between cinema and movies? Yeah. If I were on Team America, Id say Fuck yeah! The simplest way that I can describe it is that a movie is something you see, and cinema is something thats made. It has nothing to do with the captured medium, it doesnt have anything to do with where the screen is, if its in your bedroom, your iPad, it doesnt even really have to be a movie. It could be a commercial, it could be something on YouTube. Cinema is a specificity of vision. Its an approach in which everything matters. Its the polar opposite of generic or arbitrary and the result is as unique as a signature or a fingerprint. It isnt made by a committee, and it isnt made by a company, and it isnt made by the audience. It means that if this filmmaker didnt do it, it either wouldnt exist at all, or it wouldnt exist in anything like this form. --- |
| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/07/21 4:50:31 PM #35 | RchHomieQuanChi posted... Nah. It's just the usual film snobbery. I like Martin Scorsese, but I don't get how he can say this but give a pass to Lucas who basically utilized the same formula with Star Wars. people who say this are so weird to me. like youve seen star wars and marvel movies i'm assuming and the notion that they are at all similar is bizarre. like how do you manage to miss the differences in cinematography, editing, blocking, so on and so forth which is so far superior in the OG trilogy compared to marvel absolutely wild to me that people just... completely ignore the fundamentals of filmmaking when watching movies and just use surface level plot synopsis (people fighting in space or whatever) to compare movies --- |
| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/07/21 4:16:19 PM #22 | Smashingpmkns posted... Scorsese had to re-edit Goodfellas after people walked out of the test screening lmao It was also the first time he was obliged by Warner Bros. to preview the film. It was shown twice in California, and a lot of audiences were "agitated" by Henry's last day as a wise guy sequence. Scorsese argued that that was the point of the scene.[2] Scorsese and the film's editor, Thelma Schoonmaker, made this sequence faster with more jump cuts to convey Henry's drug-addled point of view. and this was the last time a studio/fans (?) advocated for jump cutting, probably --- |
| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/07/21 4:06:50 PM #15 | reminder that no corporate create-by-committee movies that are focus group tested (aka marvel movies) are cinema also that the directors dont even direct them, they have pre-viz teams designing scenes before the script is even finished LOL --- |
| Topic | Was Scorsese correct... Marvel movies aren't cinema |
| Zithers 03/07/21 4:01:00 PM #11 | did a mock trial once with me as the prosecutor and chris stuckmann/jeremy jahns teaming up as the defense and the jury determined marvel is NOT cinema --- |
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