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Topicdisney is being sued. by scarlett johanson.
Grendel Prime
07/30/21 8:49:47 PM
#114
Revelation34 posted...
Who cares about the pandemic in this situation? You should be arguing to stop wage theft entirely.
I... am?? Not sure why you'd think I wasn't.

I'm only mentioning the precedence that couple be set as a result of Disney's use of the pandemic as a scapegoat in this instance. No where in my posts have I indicated that wage theft is only a problem experienced under the pandemic.

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Topicdisney is being sued. by scarlett johanson.
Grendel Prime
07/30/21 7:40:47 PM
#111
wydrah posted...
I agree with you that the court should fairly hear the case. I'm not saying this should not go to trial or that one of them is not legally right. What I'm saying is I'm disgusted by the working class who fetis***e the ultra wealthy. You're probably the only one who actually cares about the legal ramifications. Everyone else wants Scarlett to suffer or wants Disney to suffer or wants Black Widow to win her last fight. Our society is obsessed with capitalistic propaganda and it shows in how readily this legal case becomes a cultural issue. f*** the rich.
Ah I see, I misinterpreted your posts. To be honest they weren't coming across as you describe them here, but I see where you're coming from now.

Agree that as a society we tend to put these people up on a pedestal, and fall far short in recognizing the people who keep our country running day-to-day. My sister went to Thailand to teach for a couple years and they practically worship teachers there. They had events where they lined the teachers up on a stage, and students and families walked up bowing and laying flowers at their feet. Could you imagine that sort of adulation in the States? Seems we get a "National Teachers Day" where teachers get a free coffee at Dunkin Donuts or what have you, but there's nothing on the level of what my sister received in Thailand, as far as I can tell.


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Topicdisney is being sued. by scarlett johanson.
Grendel Prime
07/30/21 12:00:56 PM
#87
wydrah posted...
Labor law is already established and labor unions do the important work of advancing these rights.

Right.

Disney allegedly violated her contract and under those already established rights she is encouraged to fight for what she's owed.

The outcome of her case could still establish presedence, one way or the other, in regards to using the pandemic as a defense.

We don't need to cheer on someone with a net worth of over $150 million--who is arguing her net worth should be over $200 million--to be our champion. Not that people who are picking sides in this have labor law in mind. They're fanboying one wealthy side over the other wealthy side.

As I mentioned, it's not so simple as picking a wealthy person over an uberwealthy megacorporation, or vice versa. It directly relates to issues many people face every day.

No, we don't need to cheer on anyone. Commenting on the case is not cheering anyone on, per se. I don't give a flip about her or Disney on a personal level. But *if* she was wronged here, then as an American living under those established labor laws, I hope full-well she wins her case. Not because it will make an already wealthy person even wealthier, but because of how it relates to the rest of us.


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Topicdisney is being sued. by scarlett johanson.
Grendel Prime
07/30/21 11:34:21 AM
#79
wydrah posted...
This is going to have zero impact on wage theft for the poors.
If we lived in a vacuum, maybe.

Were she to win the case, the decision could go a long way in establishing presedence in not allowing employers to use the pandemic as an excuse to ignore a contract or otherwise steal wages from those in their employ.

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Topicdisney is being sued. by scarlett johanson.
Grendel Prime
07/30/21 7:22:08 AM
#45
I see what people are saying about her status. She's wealthy, and at her level of wealth she'll live a comfortable life with or without that money.

But wage theft is a very real and alarmingly common problem. Doesn't solely affect millionaires. One can relate to, or show concern for, the issue she's facing without worrying about the highly unlikely chance that her stolen wages will leave her poor and starving.

While the problem she's facing won't disrupt her life in the way that it would someone making minimum wage and struggling to keep a roof over their head, it's good to see her fighting for what she's owed and putting this issue in the news to shed more light on it.

An article about some shitty manager not paying out overtime to a handful of relative nobodies isn't going to get the attention this is. I would prefer the opposite to be true, but if this opens the door to getting people to discuss wage theft, then I'll take it.

Would be nice if she used this situation as an opportunity to act as a representative for those going through this who don't have the platform she does, who are battling wage theft without the resources she has to fight for themselves. But instead of dismissing those discussing this issue, or writing her off simply because she doesn't need the money, we should be focusing on how her situation connects with us, as opposed to how her wealth creates this disconnect.

At the end of the day, she's an employee fighting for money she's owed, from a company that is more than capable of affording to pay her.

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