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SamusGlory posted...

i need to get out of this hellhole job that I'm in and I will use all of the free time to learn this

That is literally the motivation I have for learning to program.

I also recommend taking a computer science course or teaching yourself more about computer science.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

Questionmarktarius posted...

Why bother with a "free" weather service that requires the "sign up and get secret key" runaround when api.weather.gov exists?

For fun.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

I have another interview tomorrow, hope it goes well!

Good luck! I take it you haven't heard back from the last job. What's this job that you're interviewing for?

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

https://geekyhumans.com/get-weather-information-using-python/

SpiritSephiroth posted...

I've been going through free courses from Udemy

I have a ton of udemy courses, but I've only ever really used one.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

I haven't used Python much. Been mostly trying to focus on this CS50 course.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Havent heard back from them. I also emailed the agent and interviewer. I mean, if I haven't got it at least they could tell me so I could stop badgering them. Maybe its still too early to tell.

Ah. Maybe its taking them longer than usual to decide.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

I just finished week 0 of the course. It has you watch a 1h45m lecture, followed by creating a mini project on Scratch. Never used Scratch before but it's easy and kinda fun. Think I spent ~3 hours on my project, but most of it was trying to think of an interesting / random story and figuring out which things to use. I have until the end of the year to submit it so I may hold off for a week or so to submit in case I think of something else.

Now I'm going to play Ocarina of Time and start week 1 tomorrow.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Bump, didn't do much today. I've been applying for more jobs.

What about the other job you applied for?

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

SpiritSephiroth posted...

I don't want my coding to stagnate though.

I was thinking earlier that I can do Python but I am not really a programmer. I've decided to take this course. It's free, and you can upgrade to a cert at any time. It teachers core fundamentals of programming. You should take it with me, fam. Just click where it asks if you're interested in a verified certificate from edX.

https://cs50.harvard.edu/x/2021/

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLillGF-RfqbbJYRaNqeUzAb7QY-IqBKRx

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Spent WAY too much time on a drawing project I started, thinking it was going to be quick. Its taken me hours :<

What project?

ChocoboMog123 posted...

It's in Java and I'm not really sure how to package it up. It's all in the command line, so far, but I'll get around to making a .exe when I get further along.

Oh nice. I'll check it out when I get the time!

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

ChocoboMog123 posted...

I've been working on a little DOS-style Adventure/RPG game.

That sounds really fun. What program do you use to run it? Will Pycharm work?

toyota posted...

but i dont exactly understand how this leads to 'programming' stuff or games or little apps etc.

You're inputting commands which tell the computer to do something. You'll understand more once you get farther into the book.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

toyota posted...

How do you guys generally pace yourself with the Python Crash Course book.

1 hour a day is enough. You can do more if you'd like, or less. When you first start it's going to be new / super interesting so you'll want to spend a ton of time on learning. Then your brain will start to play tricks with your mind and you'll think if you're not spending every waking moment learning that you won't get anywhere. But the point of programming is not to memorize everything, but rather repeat the motions of what you're doing (by making projects) so you understand how something works, that way if your employer tasks you with a project, you'll understand how it works, what documentation to look up to get started and what questions to ask your peers / online for when you get stuck along the way.

It's important to still have a life / your other hobbies, otherwise you'll experience burn out.

The first three chapters of that book go fast, but keep going. It's a great resource.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

CreekCo posted...

Not exactly related but Google is offering certification for several fields if data analytics interests you.

Thats cool. I may look into that myself.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Which is the best program for that in tandem with python?

Not sure. I know a lot of people use Tiled for tilesets and Asperite is very popular for pixel art.

toyota posted...

So from knowing nothing about python let alone programming, what are realistic job opportunities with this?

Python is popular because it's a really good start to learning programming, and from there it's easier to pick up other languages like HTML, CSS, C#, C++, Ruby, Javascript, etc. You can also work with Flask/Django which aren't programming languages but web frameworks, which is popular for Back-End Developers and Data Analysts. You could learn game development, learn how to create websites (front end dev) or maintaining databases (back end dev) or both (full stack dev), you could become a data analyst, a data scientist, a data engineer, a software developer. You could think of a really neat/unique app and become a mobile app developer. It mostly depends on where your interests are.

For starters, begin learning Python. Once you start to get the hang of things, make simple games. Like rock, paper, scissors. Ask yourself how you think someone sitting on their computer would play the game. For me, the first thing would be a welcoming message and a brief explanation of the game. To do that you would just do a simple print function. Then you'd need the player to input either rock, paper or scissors. To do that it's another simple function: the input function, which allows someone to input a command. After that you would need to write some more code that tells the computer to do X when the player types out X, which you could do with an if statement. And so on, and so on until you complete the game. After you do that, you can take your code to the next level and import other modules that could allow you to, instead of playing rock paper scissors in a terminal, allow you to create a GUI where you press buttons. So you go from version 1 of the game, to version 2. And yes you will spend a lot of time searching how to do stuff like that, but that's how you learn effectively.

Read this thread I just saw about Data Analysts and see if it interests you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnpython/comments/q9qtes/learning_python_path_for_data_analyst/

And this is a good read as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/pndaba/i_know_python_basics_what_next/

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

Started the foundations for my coffee shop. It's very basic with if/else statements and a few menu options. Going to give it some more code tomorrow after I get home from work. I may end up finishing it tomorrow because it's going to be super basic but I may turn it into a neat Tkinter project and make some graphics / buttons to make a full fledged visual coffee shop.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

toyota posted...

thanks dawg! and just go through it start to end?

For the book, yes. There's some projects at the end but you don't have to do them, especially the one about django which you should not worry about until you're familiar with databases. The most important aspect is learning about how variables, functions, strings, classes, methods and the other basics work. Once you're familiar with those you can start to advance onto other subjects. For the YouTube playlist, I think the first 9 are required to view in order and after that you can watch in any order.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Gonna save that playlist and go through some of it.

I've watched SO MANY of his videos. He's the best programming teacher on YouTube. Periodt.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

1337toothbrush posted...

"concise"

Yeah?

toyota posted...

So is this guide good for a complete beginner who knows nothing about any of this stuff?

I highly recommend this book to start off.

https://www.amazon.com/Python-Crash-Course-Hands-Project-Based/dp/1593276036

and you can watch this guys videos tutorials.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-osiE80TeTt2d9bfVyTiXJA-UTHn6WwU

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

Okay so the book arrived today and I had no clue it was over 700 pages! This is going to take longer than I thought to get through but I'm starting tonight. After I read a few chapters I'm going to start my coffee machine project! Then head off to bed because I'm tired.

https://www.amazon.com/Fluent-Python-Concise-Effective-Programming/dp/1491946008

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

Thinking about starting up TheOdinProject or freeCodeCamp. Will give me something to work towards each day.

Messed around a bit tonight since I feel mostly better. Thought about how exactly I want this budget application to look. This is something I'm going to need to put some actual time into. I also read up on some html. Didn't want to feel useless though so I did a small python flash cards project and made up some questions. It was fun. I want to make more useless projects like that so tomorrow I think I'll make a coffee machine.

I also bought a new book called Fluent Python. I really need to advance my knowledge with Python so I think this will help. They didn't have any copies at my book store so I ordered on Amazon.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Thanks! I think it went well. I made sure to do some research on the organization since I heard the past candidates were not successful because of their lack of knowledge. I ended up having a chat with the interviewers for around 10 minutes about the company and its history, and the guy looked pretty happy about that.

Looks like the job is practically yours then.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

I've been sick the past two days D: not really feeling up to doing much. Yesterday I spent half the day sleeping and the other half on my couch half sleeping / half watching Flash.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Interview is tomorrow

Good luck fam! Let us know how it went.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

I saw a good book when I went out yesterday and was almost tempted to buy it.

Which book was it? You should go back and buy it! Books are awesome.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

I've been searching around and I think I'm going to start a budget app. This will combine a few things I'd like to improve on: Databases, Flask, graphs and html. It's actually the perfect project to work on because it combines all those things.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Im applying for a case management with legal areas.

What kinda stuff would that entail? What would be your daily tasks?

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Looks like Hoth got suspended for some reason, that sucks.

Haha yeah. For 30 days.

Had a long ass day & don't feel like doing anything. I'll do more over the weekend.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Also might get a new job soon.

Nice. What kinda job are you looking for?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Reusing code is good.

Oh yeah. I do that often.

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~ SomeLikeItHoth ~