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Insurgence is pretty good and has a bunch of new regional variant pokemon and reborn is harder than that.
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pokedude900 posted...

Please for the love of god fix the popular games list. Why is Genshin Impact listed as the number 2 Switch game when it's not even available on the Switch? All these multiplatform games that no one cares about on that system are drowning out the exclusives that we actually want to discuss.

And you STILL don't seem to understand the importance of tables with clean dividers instead of this unorganized mess of a list.

This definitely needs to be fixed. Make separate tables with most popular exclusives and most popular multiplat if you need to but don't throw them both together because it'll just make it harder to find the actual relevant games.
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STEROLIZER posted...

@lucariopikmin you posted that entirely out of context. I don't agree with White Genocide. I just agree that eventually we'll be all so mixed that race will no longer be an issue. That's a good thing.

I clearly stated that. You had to have read that in order to even grab that quote.

No, you literally said you only disagreed with the word.
Maybe read your own post yourself before you start lying about it.
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STEROLIZER posted...

I will not defend them.

STEROLIZER posted...

I don't agree with the word, "white genocide" sounds stupid. It also seems to imply malicious intent.

However I agree with that take.

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Smackems posted...

Some other burning building. We don't care about them rn

But do we have a view of the heroic person saving the dog?
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They're gonna continue the match in a few minutes.
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Kloe_Rinz posted...

I think people like the idea of consolidated game boards, they just dont want another regressive redesign to go with it

This wasn't implemented correctly either.
Most popular switch game suddenly became genshin impact while that board has 2 topics on it.
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Turbam posted...

Tio is best girl

When monster musume mondays?
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darkstar4221 posted...

Oh you mean that "irrelevant article" criticizing the 3DS? I already addressed that, I posted that article to let you know where I was coming from, to let you know there were serious problems with the 3DS and Nintendo was missing sales expectations on the 3DS. The article did not address the reason why the 3DS was missing sales expectations. When Nintendo was bleeding red badly, there was no talk of how much smartphone gaming was cheaper and better during that time, and that was the primary reason. Why was Nintendo not satifised with sales of the 3DS from 2011-2014 before the release of the "New 3DS". From my point of view and what I saw in the handheld, it was overpriced and consumers weren't getting their money's worth.

Still wrong, again it's just two simple sentences you need to read and then connect them to another few simple sentences. This isn't hard at all unless you really don't get that I'm not talking about anything sales related.
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darkstar4221 posted...

What I say is BS? That my anaylsis of the 3DS and Vita is bull****? I first posted a response of what I thought went wrong with the Vita and 3DS and people disagreed with my anaylsis. Do I have a link to shows that they weren't a factor when it cames to sales? No, but most likely it did.

As a matter fact your first response towards hostile demanding proof and links.

Still not what I was talking about. Go back to that post that's literally 2 simple sentences and read it again incredibly slowly, then go back to post 238, read that again incredibly slowly and link the 2 things together. Say so if you still don't get it.
And just so you remember, you're the first one who demanded proof after someone called you out on you thinking your opinion is fact. Also stop lying, you didn't act like it was what you thought went wrong, you acted like that was the only reason and 100% true.
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darkstar4221 posted...

Then what are you talking about?

Read the rest of that post.
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darkstar4221 posted...

Because they haven't proven me wrong. Darmik and CRON pulls up numbers that show smartphones sales are rising, but those links doesn't state says "lost in sales for the 3DS and Vita". Those links doesn't state that consumers would rather game on a smartphone than a 3DS/Vita. It just shows sales for smartphones are rising

You're the one with lack of reasoning clown.

Literally not the stuff I'm talking about.
Or did you actually forget that you lied about something Darmik agreed with you on and then doubled down on it after getting called out on it by him, among the other bullshit you came up with.
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darkstar4221 posted...

I've already addressed you. I don't know why are you still replying. What are you trying to prove, what do you want? You are not a man, you are just a combatitive troll who thinks he has a point. Completely delusional.

I said actual arguments for a reason, not lies and shit you pull out of your ass. Like I said, it's not surprising you wouldn't get that.
Also no reason to start projecting now because so far you've only proven that you're not man enough to address anything that proves you wrong while you keep acting like you have a point. You're free to shit talk about yourself as much as you want but it isn't really needed.
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darkstar4221 posted...

The fact that you think being a man is addressing some troll such as yourself on the internet just shows what your values are. I read it, the reason I posted that old article was to show you where I was coming from. I've had these discussions about the 3DS before in this 3DS board when Nintendo was bleeding money, so this discussion is nothing new. I am aware that Nintendo returned to profitability since 2014. I don't need to get into the numbers game to prove my point.

A man using actual arguments to defend himself addressing a troll is still better than not having a spine and lying the entire time, but it's no surprise you don't get this.
lucariopikmin posted...

The rest is once again irrelevant bullshit that either got addressed earlier or doesn't matter to the discussion. Go read the ones that do that incredibly slowly again if you still need a reminder, which you still need to do for post 220 anyway.

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darkstar4221 posted...

Of course I am going to insult you, when you are being hostile towards me. Noticed that Darmik isn't being hostile? The crux of your arugment is so called "proof" when I perfectly explained what was wrong with the 3DS.

I don't give a shit that you do because I'm not gonna start crying about it either.
Just shows how little you care about your own values.
And you're still not man enough to actually address every argument.
lucariopikmin posted...

The rest is once again irrelevant bullshit that either got addressed earlier or doesn't matter to the discussion. Go read the ones that do that incredibly slowly again if you still need a reminder, which you still need to do for post 220 anyway.

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darkstar4221 posted...

There is no definite proof to why the 3DS and Vita didn't sell as well as it's predecessors, unless you can me prove wrong then shut up. You've been demanding links and proof from the get go, while acting like an idiot.

That's not what I'm talking about at all.
There's also a lot of irony in you crying about someone else being antagonizing while you have no problem insulting people yourself. There's a word for people like that, not sure if you know it.
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darkstar4221 posted...

It seemed like to in post #199. You are so dense and thick-headed. Let me repeat myself, there is no definite proof to why the 3DS and Vita didn't sell well as it's predecessors. Did the the anti-consumers practices of Nintendo and Sony led people to rather game on their "mobile phone"? Probably. But we are talking about phones here, it's a fact it does not provide a better gaming experience than handhelds.

A shovel-ware game on a mobile phone does not compare to Final Fantasy, Mario, or Resident Evil. I don't need to provide proof, it's just common sense. I tried gaming on my mobile phone in 2018, I tried like 20 different titles, it just wasn't fun at all. I don't see how mobile phones are better in every-way than handhelds for gaming. It's not even cheaper either, especially when you buy those $600-1000 flagship phones. You are babbling about proof and links, and I fell into your trap.

No it didn't, you just made it up because you fail at coming up with an actual argument.
lucariopikmin posted...

The rest is once again irrelevant bullshit that either got addressed earlier or doesn't matter to the discussion. Go read the ones that do that incredibly slowly again if you still need a reminder, which you still need to do for post 220 anyway.

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darkstar4221 posted...

Well Darmik agreed with me that the rise of mobile gaming wasn't the only factor, and I agreed with him that certainly played a role, but what played a huger role in the Vita's demise? I still think it's the memory cards mainly because when Nintendo released the New 3DS people should have bought the Vita instead of shelling out another $200 for Nintendo's mistakes, but they didn't probably because of the memory cards. That's just my theory.

Relevant discussion? Your post has consits of mostly antagonzing me while demanding links and proofs, while failing to realize there is proofs or links to pinpoint exactly why sales for the 3DS and Vita isn't successful as it's predecessors.

Doesn't change the fact that you still bullshitted about this: "Even Damirik just agreed with me that the memory cards played a huge role in the Vita's demise."
The rest is once again irrelevant bullshit that either got addressed earlier or doesn't matter to the discussion. Go read the ones that do that credibly slowly again if you still need a reminder, which you still need to do for post 220 anyway.
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darkstar4221 posted...

There you go again with the proof and the "links". Unless you can provide a link that conducts a survey that ask 20 million people why they didn't buy a 3DS, there is no proof, it don't exist. Every article talking about sales of the 3DS or why it wasn't successful as the DS is going to talk about the same thing, it was because of the rise of mobile gaming or some other reason.

But my crticisms of the 3DS are legit. Where is the proof? When Nintendo released the New 3DS.

Go back to post 250 and read it incredibly slowly again, then come up with an actual relevant argument.
And once again no reason to ask me for proof when we already went over the reason why nobody needs to give you any.

Darmik did in fact prove you wrong. You said he agreed with you in it being a "huge part" while he himself literally said it isn't the most significant one.
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darkstar4221 posted...

Irrelevant things? You are antagonizing me on every post. All my criticism of the 3DS is legit, but from the get go you want "links", you want "proof", you are just full of bulls***. This is from my own personal experience using the 3DS, the flaws and many people have pointed out; the low screen resolution, the cost of it's video games being to high, the handheld being very expensive given that it was underpowered.

You even said that CRON and Damirik provided so called "facts" with their links when they did not. Even Damirik just agreed with me that the memory cards played a huge role in the Vita's demise.

Yes irrelevant things, you read it correctly. Did you forget the fact that you linked a completely irrelevant article after I asked you to prove your claim after you started demanding proof from others first?
We already went over the second thing you are crying about earlier, just like we already went over your opinions which isn't the thing that's being discussed, no reason to start up again. Go back and read posts incredibly slowly again if you need a reminder.
And I would love you to quote the post where Darmik said that they played a huge role in it's demise in those exact words. Oh wait he already proved you wrong.
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darkstar4221 posted...

My own bull***? Your responses have been nothing but to antagonize me, nothing remotely intelligent, just pure stupidity. I can defend myself quite well. I answered all your questions, what do you want?

This is coming from a guy who needs "links" for proof. Just shut up clown.

Yes bullshit, you read that correctly for once again.
If you think that bringing up completely irrelevant things, sometimes even completely outdated and proven wrong with very basic research while making random shit up is defending yourself quite well then yeah you're great at it. And no you didn't answer all my questions because you're still not man enough to answer the one in post 169.
Maybe listen to your own advice first before you even start to think about giving it to others.
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darkstar4221 posted...

That's funny because nothing you say is relevant, just trying to continue a pointless discussion. I don't know what you are trying to prove, that the 3DS is a great handheld? That I am wrong about the 3DS?

lucariopikmin posted...

That doesn't means much when it comes from the expert at it.

And pretty sad that you can't even defend your bullshit anymore.
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darkstar4221 posted...

I didn't make anything up, I just misread what you said, besides I don't take anything what you say seriously. All my criticism of the 3DS and Vita are legit. The results speak for themselves.

What has Sony done to address the problems of the Vita to make consumers want to buy one during it's 9 year lifespan? Nothing. What did that marketing guy or Shuhei Yoshida make you believe a word they say?

There was nothing to misread because you came up with that irrelevant lie for no reason. Stop deflecting with irrelevant things and answer my question in post 169. You found post 164 eventually, it shouldn't be too hard for you to find post 169.
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darkstar4221 posted...

I did read post 164 completley, you didn't believe the marketing guy, okay ahole, whatever. What else do you want to argue about?

About time you finally admit that you were making shit up like usual.
Now how about you answer my question in post 169.
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darkstar4221 posted...

You are making a big deal about nothing.

That doesn't means much when it comes from the expert at it.
Did you read post 164 completely yet?
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darkstar4221 posted...

Yes I did.

Clearly not considering the fact you aren't man enough to address it entirely. Again, stop lying.
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darkstar4221 posted...

I already read that post completely clown, what do you want?

No you didn't considering the fact you keep ignoring parts of it. Stop lying.
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darkstar4221 posted...

Well intense arguments with different opinions I do get a bit befuddled, I mean you want a link? It's just a marketing guy, what they say is not in defense of the consumer, but of their company. What we see as a problem, they don't see. The results speak for themselves.

lucariopikmin posted...

Congrats you got the correct post finally, now read it incredibly slowly and completely for once.

Look up the definition of the word completely if you don't understand it. Then do as asked.
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darkstar4221 posted...

Oh you want a link to where the marketing guy is lying. I have no link, but again like I said to Darmik I was assuming he was quoting Shuhei Yoshida, and I've had that discussion before and immediately assumed what he said was BS. So any talking head from Sony I take with a grain of salt.

Congrats you got the correct post finally, now read it incredibly slowly and completely for once.
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darkstar4221 posted...

Oh you mean where I said that you were a staunch supporter of the 3DS. I just assumed that. What are you trying to get at? What are trying to prove? Are you siding with the Darmik and CRON.

Nothing of that got said in post 164. Again, go back to post 164, read post 164 incredibly slowly this time, make sure you are reading post 164 then read post 164 incredibly slowly again and finally at least be man enough to actually address post 164. Post 164 as a reminder again, that's a 1 followed by a 6 and ending with a 4, 164.
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darkstar4221 posted...

Oh you mean that Sony marketing guy when he said this.
https://www.digitalspy.com/videogames/a543704/ps-vita-lacklustre-sales-attributed-to-smartphones-tablets-by-sony/

When you look at the type of consumer that's playing cell phone games currently, it's someone that enjoys smaller 'kill time' gaming and has not gravitated to the larger, richer, deeper experiences that true handheld gaming provides," said Koller.

How does he know what the average consumer wants? How does he know that the average consumer would rather play a shovel-ware game than an AAA title?

Still not what I asked for, go read post 164 again, very, very slowly this time and then come back.
Or just straight up say which words in that post you fail to understand.
Once again a completely irrelevant article btw.
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darkstar4221 posted...

I provided you that old link to show that the 3DS was struggling early on it's career, and it was nowhere near as it was good as it hyped, nor was it selling as well as people thought it was. My logic is that the anti-cosumer practices of Nintendo is the main reason why it hasn't sold as well as the DS. It's the worst selling Nintendo handheld actually.

Literally irrelevant to what I just posted again and you don't even have the balls to answer a simple question now.
Go back to post 164, read it again, slowly, and then answer my previous post.
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harley2280 posted...

Neat way not to answer the question.

That's what he has been doing the entire time. Throw more shit at the wall hoping it'll stick once when it'll never stick.
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darkstar4221 posted...

He's a marketing guy for Sony, and this was in 2011, you attack for posing old articles yet Darmik does the same thing. To be honest I didn't read the link until now. But there was a topic on the Vita board where Shuhei Yoshida was blaming smartphones for the Vita's demise, and everyone said he was full of crap, and he was.

Here is an article about it. Hey *** ass don't always believe corporate heads.
https://aaltomies.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/shuhei-yoshidas-reason-why-vita-failed-barks-at-the-wrong-tree/

I asked you to prove 2 different things, and the second one had to be 100% facts. You failed at both those simple things. Someone's opinion is not a fact especially considering the fact that he, just like you, fails to back his opinion up.
Btw, I didn't attack you for posting old articles, I called you out on providing an old worthless irrelevant article that was easily disprove with basic research.

Why do you keep lying?
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darkstar4221 posted...

Says a lot about me? You actually believe your buddies provided evidence to their arugments when they did not. All they did was show a chart that mobile game sales have been rising, it doesn't say that is the reason why handhelds are no longer in demand.

What says a lot about you is that you actually believed that link Darmik provided on the Sony PR guy who you think is some expert, lying out of his teeth about what consumers want.

Yes you read that right (for once somehow), it says a lot about you.
Quote the post where I said I believed that link. I also want a link where you prove the PR guy was lying about what the consumers want. And not your worthless opinion, actual 100% facts.
Oh wait, I can guarantee everyone here again that you won't have the balls to do either of those.
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darkstar4221 posted...

Like I said all my criticisms of the 3DS are legit, did that result in 3DS sales being nowhere near as successful as the DS? I don't have direct proof for that, but that is most likely the case.

There's no problem with you have those opinions at all, but you don't need to go twisting the truth now.
From the very start you have been acting like those are 100% the only reason and no other reason exists.
Like I said, the fact you don't get this says a lot about you.
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darkstar4221 posted...

The DS sold 150 million units the PSP sold 80 million units. The 3DS sold 76 million units and the Vita sold 15 million units. I know critical thinking is hard for you, but are you seriously going to blame the drop on sales strictly on mobile gaming?

Nintendo has stated plenty of times from 2011-2014 that they were in disappointed in 3DS sales. Ironically sales jumped up when they released the New 3DS. I remember reading an article in 2014 that it was critical for Nintendo meet sales expecations for the New 3DS, I think it was Satoru Iwata who said that. They did meet sales exceptions, but at what cost? Consumers forking another $200 because Nintendo screwed on the original hardware.

This was during 2011-2014 when mobile gaming was nowhere near as dominant as it is now, do you want to me to provide links to where Nintendo was disappointed on 3DS sales during that time period? I would have to find it, it's going to be hard, but it is there.

My reasoning is just talking out of my ass? All criticisms of the 3DS is legit, it's you and your buddies that's talking out of your ass and can't listen to reason.

Literally nothing you just cried about is relevant to what I just said, not even you crying about "criticisms" which isn't even the point people are debating. The fact you don't even get that last thing says a lot about you.
It's actually surprising that you didn't bring up a worthless link this time, but a good thing since the last time you did that the point you tried to focus on was easily proven wrong with basic research and the time before that it was completely irrelevant.

And yeah sure, go look for those irrelevant links but only if they specifically addresses every reason possible for lower as expected sales. But just so you know, those links would be worthless anyway and those aren't the ones I asked you to provide to begin with.
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darkstar4221 posted...

I mean a link that is factually correct, concrete evidence, not some mouthpiece for a company who will blame another entity for their own shortcomings. If your argument is I am wrong and they are right, then the onious is on you too to provide evidence that I am wrong.

Your buddies haven't provided a link that states consumers prefer mobile gaming over dedicated handhelds for their gaming needs. They just show that mobile games are selling, but it doesn't state that is the reason why consumers prefer mobile phones over handhelds. It doesn't state that why the 3DS and Vita hasn't sold as well as their predecessors. Especially given how successful the DS and PSP were.

You haven't given a single good reason as to why they would be wrong besides "they are lying because I say so and I am never wrong" and ass pull reasons, already told you this but reading is clearly too hard for you. I've also said that your link with a 2.3 3ds attach rate is incredibly outdated (or maybe it was just wrong even at that time), but you were once again not man enough to address that either because basic research is too hard for you.
And no, you are the first one who made a claim so it's on you to prove it's true. Because it's you who's argument is "I am the only one with common sense and 100% correct and everyone else in the entire world is wrong but I don't have the balls to prove it and will link something completely irrelevant when called out on it, also ignore the fact that the 3ds has an attach rate of 5 when I link an article that says it has one of 2.3". Tho it doesn't surprise me at all that you don't care about your own values and twist them, and fail at it, to your own "advantage".

Did you also notice how you once again didn't provide the quote I asked for, which I said wouldn't happen? Ignore arguments all you want, the only thing you're doing is showing that you don't have actual counterpoints for the shit you keep pulling out of your ass.
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darkstar4221 posted...

Except they didn't provide links. That's what I thought you're aggressive towards me but not them because I am attacking your beloved gaming handheld the 3DS.

My original post was criticizing the 3DS and Vita, and explaining why the mistakes they made are the reasons why both systems didn't sell as well as their predecessors. There argument is because of the rise of smart phone gaming, but they didn't provide proof that consumers switched to smartphones for their gaming needs because smartphones was a much better gaming experience.

darkstar4221 posted...

You are quoting Sony, a lying corporate bastard.

Also post 28.
And now you are lying about them not providing links too. Would also love a source from you where you quote me saying I love the 3ds as much as you are claiming that I do. But I can already guarantee everyone here that you aren't man enough to do that.

darkstar4221 posted...

here is this myth that mobile gaming is what caused the demise of dedicated handheld gaming and that is simply not true. It was Sony and Nintendo's anti-consumer practices that caused consumers to not trust those companies when it comes to dedicated handheld gaming.

This is part of post 3, the first one in the entire topic with a claim that still hasn't, and won't be proven.
No need to lie about others making arguments against you first.

And why don't you have the balls to address the rest of my arguments again?
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darkstar4221 posted...

Oh so now it's you guy's vs me, even though you guys haven't provided proof either. So called experts can't provide proof either. They don't have a data sheet that "explains why" sales for the 3DS and Vita are significantly lower than their predecessors, except for the numbers that show sales for the 3DS and Vita are significantly lower then their predecessors. Why are you just attacking me for not providing proof, why not attack Darmik and CRON for not providing proof either.

Where in my posts that I am factually wrong, because you can't admit I am factually wrong. You have no evidence to support that I am wrong. Here is an article blaming the 3DS for Nintendo's net loss during that time when they were losing $229 million dollars and wasn't selling as well as people claim it was.
https://gamnesia.com/articles-the-wii-u-may-be-a-flop-but-the-is-3ds-to-blame-for-net-loss/#sthash.O71LSoE3.dpuf

People often point to the 3DSs overall popularity, but its actually sold significantly less than the DS in the same time period, and is on pace to be absolutely demolished going forward. In the same breath, each of the DS sales in the same time span were infinitely more profitable. In addition, the DS had a stunning 6 to 1 attach ratio for games. As in, for every DS sold, 6 DS games were also sold. Despite all the great games released, the 3DS is average 2.3 games per one 3DS sold. Thats a rather significant drop in attach rate.

Now the article doesn't explain what's causing people to not want to buy the 3DS, but it's pretty obvious why the 3DS wasn't selling as well as the DS, it's much more expensive.

Why do you keep ignoring the fact that you're the first one who was making claims, go read post 3, and were crying for proof when you don't have the balls to deliver it yourself. And I don't need to call anyone else out on it considering they actually provide links, but of course you're not man enough to accept those and immediately act like they are lies or wrong for ass pull reasons anyway. Nobody here has to prove you anything at all until you man up and back up your bullshit but you have said yourself that it doesn't exist because it just isn't true.

Did you forget the posts where you kept claiming that I have been making arguments?
The ones I asked you to quote but you never did.
And again, a random irrelevant old outdated link that doesn't prove your original claim doesn't matter at all. Already explained this to you in the post you literally quoted but you ignored that too just like you completely ignored the last point where I pointed out that you can't even keep the shit you keep pulling from your ass straight anymore.

Btw, the attach rate for the 3ds is 5. You'd know this if you did even the most basic of research because nintendo has their sales numbers for platforms and games sold easily available.
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darkstar4221 posted...

There is no proof, and none of your buddies can't provide proof either. It's called common sense. Unless you can conduct a survey that asks 20 million gamers why didn't buy a 3DS or Vita than your guess to why they didn't buy one is just as good as mine. Well given your responses you can't come up with a reason why. It's not bs you are just angry because I criticized the 3DS, and you can't believe someone would dare criticized "a rock solid gaming handheld". I have owned a 3DS btw, I even owned the Sky3DS+ which allowed me to play pirated 3DS games. It's not something I just made up.

But did the anti-consumer practices of the 3DS and Vita played a part? Certainly it did. I've heard of people say they didn't want to buy a Vita unless they can pirate their games just like they did on the PSP. Piracy was rampant on the DS and PSP. Piracy made the DS and PSP cheap gaming systems, although if you bought games legitimately it was still pretty cheap. Given that the 3DS and Vita were much more expensive especially the software, and the 3DS and Vita had much stronger anti-piracy protection, and during that time (and still is today) there was a global recession, yeah sales dropped significantly compared to it's predecessors the DS and PSP.

Ah yes, you're the only person in the entire world with this "common" sense, which you will 100% guarantee not give proof for either. Not even the companies themselves and experts at this have this knowledge a random lying nobody on gamefaqs has. At this point you should just admit you're lying and show that you at least have a little bit of dignity left.
Once again, stop crying about any of us needing to provide proof when you haven't done it a single time and even admit that no back up for your claims exists, so stop crying about it like I told you before. Also no reason to cry about me "not coming up with any reasons why" when I'm not the one making idiotic claims, I've already told you this several times but it's very obvious that you can't read well considering you keep putting words into my mouth because you don't have an actual argument and aren't man enough to admit that you're factually wrong.
You do obviously make shit up, that's why when called out on proof you link to a random article that doesn't back up anything at all , don't even address that when called out on it twice and it's why you keep bringing up totally irrelevant stuff to arguments. Guess what, doing that doesn't make you seem "smart", it just makes you desperate because anyone with actual common sense, so not you, knows you are grasping at straws.

Also funny how you're went from "anti consumer practices are the only reason" to "they played a part". You can't even keep the bullshit you're spewing straight anymore.
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darkstar4221 posted...

I can provide proof that there is still demand for handhelds given that the 3DS sold 76 million units. Now the 3DS hardware is an abomination and the 3D feature turned out to be useless, and other flaws with the system that turned consumers off, but it still managed to sell 76 million units. BTW the 3DS in terms of sales is the lowest among all Nintendo handhelds.

Also you seem to be siding with everyone else. This notion that the 3DS and Vita didn't sell well because of mobile gaming is utter nonsense, given that most games on smart phones are shovel-ware.

That isn't what I asked for at all. But everyone here knows you aren't gonna man up and provide it because it just doesn't exist.
And again, learn to read or stop making irrelevant "arguments" that are completely worthless.

darkstar4221 posted...

That's not proof, that is your assessment. Are you seriously going to compare some shovel-ware games like Candy Crush and Angry Birds to a triple a title like Fire Emblem or Mario?

There's a lot of irony in crying about "no proof" when you're not man enough to prove any of your claims and even admit you can't prove the bullshit you pull out of your ass.
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darkstar4221 posted...

Except the crux of your arugment is that mobile gaming killed handhelds. Where is your proof that consumers switched from handhelds for their gaming needs?

Quote the post where I said that. Or learn to read and get the fact that I never made such an argument.
And again, stop crying about someone else needing to provide proof when you literally don't have the balls to do it yourself and even admit that you don't have proof.
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darkstar4221 posted...

Where is your evidence that consumers sales for the Vita and 3DS plummeted because consumers preferred gaming on their smartphone? Becuase if the issue wasn't "the rise of smartphone gaming" (which I am 100% sure of) then there other issues that undermined the sales of the 3DS and Vita. Certainly price, a bad economy, and anti-consumer practices played a factor.

lucariopikmin posted...

And don't try to deflect it after crying about someone else needing to provide evidence when you haven't done it a single time.

lucariopikmin posted...

And learn to read, I never made any claim so no reason to cry about me needing to prove anything.

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darkstar4221 posted...

But where is your source 3DS and Vita sales plummeted because consumers preferred gaming on their smartphones?

You really shouldn't be crying about sources when you don't have the balls to backup your own bullshit.
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darkstar4221 posted...

I am not talking out my ass, but the teriibble hardware and the fact that 3DS games took forever to drop in price and was expensive for what it was worth, certainly played a factor in NIntendo missing sales expecations.

lucariopikmin posted...

How about you provide a source for that, one that isn't coming from your ass, shouldn't be too hard for you since you are so sure of yourself.

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darkstar4221 posted...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/05/07/nintendo-misses-wii-u-and-3ds-sales-targets-posts-229m-loss/?sh=635ecdd9a9d2

Nintendo lost $223 million in 2013, a lot of it had to do with missing sales expectations for the Wii-U and 3DS. People were raving at the time that the 3DS was "printing money for Nintendo", but that time they were losing money.

No I don't have a direct source, but where is your source that consumers simply thought mobling gaming was the better alternative?

So no actual evidence for "it had to do with do anti-consumer practices from both companies, and a bad economy too" like I asked, thanks for proving that you are in fact talking out of your ass.
And learn to read, I never made any claim so no reason to cry about me needing to prove anything.
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darkstar4221 posted...

And it's not because of the "rise of smartphone gaming" that they missed sales expecations, it had to do with do anti-consumer practices from both companies, and a bad economy too.

How about you provide a source for that, one that isn't coming from your ass, shouldn't be too hard for you since you are so sure of yourself. And don't try to deflect it after crying about someone else needing to provide evidence when you haven't done it a single time.
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Eyeratosthenes posted...

Live 1000 years. I can't notice any benefits to the latter beyond some nebulous "variety" quality

Living a thousand years as the same guy would make me the most OP thing ever. My wikipedia page would be tremendous

Also imagine the "back in my day" stories you could tell.
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kind9 posted...

You mean the algorithm that runs youtube? Even when you get a hold of an actual "person" their replies are so stock it's hard to believe they're real. Thunderf00t did some videos about it recently where he tried to prompt them to make an actual human response to his words... and they didn't.

All the different branches in there that go over that stuff barely communicate between each other too.
A fairly big YT'er got struck for some dumb shit a while ago, called them out on it, got another way bigger YT'er to call them out on it too and they just tripled down on it until after the bigger YT'er made a vid about the issues. First guy's YT contact tried to contact the person in charge of the strike and that wasn't easy either.
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