Lurker > _HayleyWilliams

Multibillionaires are your enemy. No need to defend their honor.

Not much freedom when you're dead though

Did we forget about the pandemic existing and that China is an oppressive dictatorship?

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Yikes

Unknown5uspect posted...

What does that matter to you? You aren't affected by my hypothetical choice to do it so why are you so against it?

Because I care about others

Unknown5uspect posted...

Why? Is it wrong for me to wanna see what life is like without autism?

Are you gonna un-cure yourself if you don't like it?

You can't just take away only the bad parts of autism without changing everything. It's far more a part of someone than other conditions. My entire person is a result of it.

Sczoyd posted...

Call it what you want but you're communicating with us just fine and I'm sure my friend would like her son to be able to do the same

If you can make sure only low-functioning people will be subject to this hypothetical chip, sure.

I hate piece of shit organizations like Autism Speaks that focus on a cure.

"So you're saying entire ideas are bad if some people get violent supporting them?"

No, entire ideas are bad when the very goddamn idea requires violence and oppression to be put into action. Or are white supremacists just fighting to bring back the fashion of the Nazi or Confederate militaries?

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

https://twitter.com/bretweinstein/status/1487330683684995073?s=21

I was unaware Spotify could ban him from the entire Internet and society so that he could never speak again without penalty of law.

Lies that kill people are not opinions and we have a moral obligation to bring killers to justice.

I too am cool with someone physically harming society if it makes some random people I don't know sound triggered on social media.

"Peace and unity! Anti fascism!"

*flies fascist flags*

Yikes

Xavier_On_High posted...

Somehow, Palpatine can bleed now.

Somehow, perfectly balanced as all things should be

For you.

Ruvan22 posted...

What did 1/6 rioters have to do with Nazism? Nothing but the movement attracts people like that (unless you are going to claim 1/6 was Antifa plants)

They were all Antifa plants, except Ashli Babbit and all the people they have kept wrongfully imprisoned for a year!

/s

Does 2B is ****?

Nothing says freedom like flags of oppression.

Deku_Link posted...

Egg cream

What a fucking scam of a drink

Imagine paying $220 for a fraudulent card when vaccines are free.

Ooh pick me!

Kain Highwind posted...

There's already been worse than him

remember when Jackson actually committed genocide? P sure that's worse than mean tweets

If you ignore that Trump is a mass murderer too, sure. But we don't gain anything from arguing who's the less bad killer of innocents

So when is the vaccine supposed to start being deadly?

Tired of missionaries trying to force their beliefs on people. What happened to freedom of speech?

GF_Sybb posted...

That exact same thing also goes for abortions, but I never hear left wing feminists talking about the fact that every single abortion doesn't just affect themselves, but also the tax payers as every abortion costs between 600 and 1,400 USD (where I live) of tax money.

So once again, I see much hypocrisy from the left. For example, where I live, some vaccine sceptic people use the feminist slogan "my body, my choice". Feminists are then real quick to point out that it's not just about their own bodies, without realizing abortions do not just affect themselves, either.

When the world's population lives inside someone's body, maybe "my body, my choice" will be the hypocritical gotcha you think it is. Someone walking into my room and shooting me to death would be murdering me and violating my autonomy. But if I somehow was connected to another person and lived off their body, them disconnecting me would be their body, their choice. And "doesn't taxation violate bodily autonomy" argument is neither cute nor intelligent. Are you against any taxes or collectivist action in society, or are you being hypocritical while accusing others of hypocrisy?

Solid Snake07 posted...

I legitimately don't believe you don't honestly see the difference between directly targeting an individual and their personal safety and questioning scientific or medicinal consensus. So it seems really disingenuous that you keep reverting back to this.

Pushing harmful lies is pushing harmful lies. This gaslighting bullshit people do of "We're just questioning consensus" is so tiresome. I cannot believe how quickly society stopped believing that objective reality existed. People actually believe facts are whatever you choose to believe. It's sickening and frustrating and I refuse to be gaslit into accepting this clown world.

It doesn't matter what anyone thinks, only what is. I miss when we publicly mocked conspiracy theorists and when loudly and openly rejecting the truth got someone labelled a fool. Perhaps both sides do hold some responsibility since clearly the lefty snowflake "everyone wins" mentality has rubbed off on a lot of people.

Not getting vaccinated isn't just a personal choice. When your personal choice affects other people without their consent, or even their knowledge, then that is not just personal. That's been the the problem. I don't think we need to protect people from themselves, only from others. No one deserves to be hurt in anyone's pursuit of following their personal beliefs. You have no right for your freedom to steal someone of theirs. There is one world with 8 billion people, not 8 billion worlds populated with one person each.

What happened to "The world doesn't revolve around you" and "Treat others as you would like to be treated"?

People believing bullshit is fine, but being okay with people doing things in the name of the bullshit shouldn't be acceptable. I used to be under the impression that was a pretty normal thought process. But now someone could kick the shit out of you because someone they listen to on the Internet told them they should and the goddamn world will celebrate this "free speech".

"I don't believe punching someone in the face will hurt them."

"My religion believes in face punching".

"Not punching people is exactly what the politicians in power want me to do. That's how I knew your face definitely needed punching."

"Face punching cures lupus, but that's not a fact you'll hear from most Big Pharma doctors."

Solid Snake07 posted...

Cool, have fun trying to be the arbiter of truth and what people should be allowed to hear or say.

You keep presenting this like if you're right that's the end of the conversation. That's not how the world works. People don't like being told what they can say or what they can listen to. In fact they rarely go along with it unless forced to at gun point. Sounds like a much more fucked up world than whatever the hell Joe Rogan is saying on his spotify podcast to me personally.

Then there is no point in this world. If there is no truth, then there is nothing.

I don't believe. Period.

It's this simple. Opinions fine. Lies bad. Lies that result in harm worse. Lies that kill worst.

GF_Sybb posted...

No hyperbole, please. Just because some of his guests have been spreading fake information doesn't mean he is responsible for stupid people. To compare, left wing feminists have been spreading fake information about biology not existing and all differences between men and women to be the result of socioeconomic factors. But no one complains about that kind of fake information.

I think Alex Jones is a pathetic clown, but I still want have the right to listen to him to understand his arguments. What I don't want is a Stalinist dictatorship that decides what I should be allowed to listen to and not.

So if the elected government decides to run on an agenda of Alex Jones' lies, you'd smile and take solace in that, while people are suffering and dying, at least we freely allow beliefs, whether or not they are based in reality, unlike... Russia or some shit.

And of course you'd throw in some weak anti-trans hate.

It is so fucked up that people have been convinced that facts no longer exist and that we're just billions of people living in our own personal realities with our own personal facts. We truly are in a post-truth society.

Solid Snake07 posted...

No, cause you want to censor anything you see as bad and present this false dichotomy that anyone who dares to challenge you has ill intentions for society at large as your reasoning.

They failed and so will you

This is what I'm talking about. Blatant lies are not just opinions and words can kill. I don't get to convince people that they can fly if they flap their arms hard enough. And I definitely shouldn't be able to hide behind "free speech" and "they choose to believe me" if I get my supporters hurt.

Solid Snake07 posted...

You do realize slander and liable aren't legal right? This is way I made fun of your stupid tangent to "personalize" this.

Well then polticians or rich and powerful people slandering the entirety of the scientific or medical community and getting millions hurt/killed should be an automatic life sentence.

Solid Snake07 posted...

God damn, you're almost a mirror copy of conservative Christians in the 90s.

Because I value science and truth and do not tolerate hurting people with lies?

I wouldn't tolerate Joe Rogan hosting people that say "Hockeybub89 steals money from orphans and kicks puppies" so I also don't support hosting vaccine misinformation that undermines science and medicine and gets people hurt.

GF_Sybb posted...

The same people who speak proud and loud about tolerance are the most intolerant people on of them all. Maybe if left wing people got a shot of their own medicine, they would understand.

Tolerating lies and murder makes someone a pathetic pushover, not a good person.

Solid Snake07 posted...

Even if he is spreading misinformation, his audience has autonomy and has chosen to listen to him and agree with him if they want to. What an absolutely futile thing to try and police.

So why would you sue Joe Rogan for hurting you? Not his fault his false statements about you led to society turning on you. They have autonomy and we can't put the genie back in the bottle. We're all just fucked if enough people fall for a lie. Doing anything would be thought-policing and censorship. We're powerless when the powerful's lies get us hurt.

CarnageAsada posted...

Generally its just the certain fixated media that enjoys dancing on the graves of Covid deaths. No trolling tho

News site posts story of death with no editorial

"OMG why is the Far-Left MSM dancing on the graves of free people that went against the hivemind?"

Solid Snake07 posted...

I'm not really being hyper literal. I'm mocking this dumb and irrelevant tangent you've gone on for no reason.

If you want to deplatform rogan for whatever he's said about vaccines then just say that. Don't pull some "what if someone with a large platform was spreading lies about you, how would you feel about that?!" Nonsense out of your ass.

Lol, I'd sue the shit out of them. That's how I'd feel about that.

What tangent? I don't get why people get so mad when I try to frame an argument in a personal way in hope of triggering understanding. Even IRL, it's so frustrating when you're trying to make a point and the other person just starts eye rolling and talking over you.

Spreading harmful lies is bad. If you wouldn't want to be harmed by them, then you should fully support no one being harmed by them. If someone agrees that it shouldn't hurt them, then there are two possible conclusions:

A) You do support censorship
or
B) You do not support lies and misinformation being spread and hurting people/society

Joe Rogan should be held accountable and legally liable for hurting the world with his harmful lies, just as if he was personally hurting you.

Pogo_Marimo posted...

I don't get why conservatives, who gleefully watch on as private corporations exploit humanity's basic needs for healthcare through difficult and explotative medical insurance, think they have any moral high ground to criticize others for being dispassionate about the deaths of self-sabotaging conspiracy theorists.

I will consider the context and circumstances of every death I hear about and reserve every right to mock it if it was brought about by the decident's own stupid beliefs or actions, and I will be damn gleeful about it if that person's actions were directly causing substantial harm to our society. And I won't tolerate those pretending like conservatives don't do the same.

People will find every excuse to justify why everyone shot by police had it coming and how we're better off without them, but be flippant about a single crazy anti-vaxxer death and you're literally the worst person on earth.

CarnageAsada posted...

Thank god her and Neil will be dead soon.
If you support them, you support censorship you basket weaving loon. People mad at the wrong things as usual.

Wishing people dead because they don't want to share a platform with someone being paid millions to hurt and kill people with deliberate misinformation.

Yikes.

Weird how the people against censorship want to take away someone's right to criticize opinions or to choose to disassociate with those with views they see as harmful or dangerous. That doesn't seem like freedom to me.

Solid Snake07 posted...

Who is joe rogan spreading personal lies about? Pretty sure that's already illegal, they should pursue legal action.

Pretending to be this hyper-literal is not cute or funny.

I sure hope people stop getting mad when false sexual assault allegations are made. Since apparently lying is a human right and truth is whatever someone believes it is. If we destroy lives with our lies, then that's just an unfortunate side effect of free speech.

Solid Snake07 posted...

No one is seething except the crybabies demanding people they don't like and don't watch be deplatformed. Knowing full well that's definitely not gonna happen.

How would you like it if someone got a large platform to just spread lies about you personally? And it was negatively affecting your life and turning people against you? Would you be sitting here defending the person's freedom to share "opinions" you "disagree" with?

This is the shitty world we live in. Where falsehoods are considered mere different opinions, and tangibly harming people with these lies is called "freedom of speech". Where calling out this bullshit is branded "censorship" and "fascism" since apparently freedom is a one way street that only applies to the people abusing it for personal gain.

HairyQueen posted...

Nice. Why are the chuds seething about this?

Because the darn woke musicians are trying to pressure Spotify to censor Joe Rogan's alternative facts! It's fascism to not accept our post-truth society!

ColdOne666 posted...

I know this is a big circle jerk for you guys but trolling dead people just makes you look horrible.

Why does it make us look horrible?

CommonGrackle posted...

I guess people need someone to kick around after Rush Limbaugh died

Oh no! Those poor mainstream media figures and their feelings!

KStateKing17 posted...

Spotify and Fear Factor aren't mainstream media?

It's like how people use "government" as a slur against their opponents, as if their favorite policymakers and elected leaders are somehow outside of that umbrella.

XBullseyeX posted...

Imagine being such a bitch that you hate someone for being successful without Hollywood and the mainstream media.

lol

What is it with right-wingers and accusing everyone who dislikes a celebrity or rich person of being jealous? But only when you agree with the celebrity. You won't call me jealous if I say I hate Tom Cruise or Gwyneth Paltrow.

Oh no! Not the poor majority with all the political power!