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3PiesAndAFork posted...

Yeah, he is. This show is going suck ass, and you know it.

That has nothing to do with "spitting in the face of the original."

And no, I don't know it anymore than you do. The original trailer was so well-received that it garnered Smith's attention. But don't take my advice and double down on the dumb, I guess?

3PiesAndAFork posted...

Because it pisses on the face of a legendary sitcom.

Will Smith is pissing in the face of the sitcom he made about his life? Really? Lol stop saying dumb things.

AgentCoulson posted...

Did I miss something or does Ashley not exist?

She's in it. He meets her at the mansion and says something about "Baby Ashley."

The 1st movie is the only one worth watching. And then they completely blew any potential the series had with the sequels.

Although the idea of Sam struggling with a "normal" job after saving the world twice was an interesting angle. But Bay isn't good enough to actually pull it off.

Unit7 posted...

I remember watching the original fan trailer and I was very interested and excited that it was turning into a real thing.

Honestly? It looks good. But its also one of those reimaginings that will probably be hurt more by using an old IP then just literally using different names. could have acknowledged the inspiration and done something new. No problem.

But whatever. Hollywood gonna Hollywood.

I think if you go in knowing its supposed to be a far more serious drama and its a more realistic take and just kinda forget its a reimagining, then youll probably enjoy it more.

At least thats my take on this.

I could see the criticism of "not another reboot/Hollywood is out of ideas" if Will Smith himself wasn't the one making this happen. Since he is, I feel like there's a lot more thought/care involved than just a typical cash grab.

BakonBitz posted...

I'm curious to see that, actually. More positive? More negative?

More positive.

It's interesting seeing the reactions here as opposed to other, predominantly black spaces.

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

The Mandalorian also explored the Tuskens a bit more.

This. They're just following up on what the previous show already established.

Veggeta_MAX posted...

The trailer says yes to this but then again Carlton was always popular at his school, he just had to play second fiddle when Will arrived. And Will was just as antagonizing to Carton as Carlton was to him but they tryna make Will the victim between the two now.

Will doesn't look like a victim here to me. He' clearly has a chip on his shoulder and I'm sure his attitude is going to be a major factor in how he's treated. It won't be completely one-sided.

This looks better than it has any right to.

Slayer_22 posted...

https://youtu.be/P3ALwKeSEYs

More like this:

https://youtu.be/sjZ5I8l32CI

Yes, it's generally a very Thanos/M. Bison moment for me.

Lol this question is funny.

It started when people realized they could be a-holes without any immediate, physical consequences. It's been a thing since the internet began.

This is the only NCIS show I don't like. Everything else in this CBS "universe" is good: Los Angeles, New Orleans, Hawaii, JAG and Hawaii 5-O were/are great.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

What I hate most about this picture is the unnecessary stairs fucking up what would be a good open space to do a lot of stuff.

It's a theatre room. The steps are there because that's where you put the other seats. They're tiered so you can see over the person in front of you.

fire_bolt posted...

It's a red flag but not for the reason most of y'all are thinking. If all you own is 1 chair and a bunch of gaming equipment it means:

A) You have no one in your life you're willing to let visit you at home OR no one is willing to visit you at home

and

B) Your only priority in your personal life is your hobbies

Both are pretty not great in a potential partner. Like there's not being materialistic/being minimalist and then there's just flat out not caring about having real people in your life and the picture in OP is definitely the latter.

This. I'm not surprised at the responses here, though. It's a pretty basic thing to have furniture in your place.

Tyranthraxus posted...

The only time Darkseid is mentioned in the theatrical cut is at the very end in a throwaway line during the final battle. So basically everything changed.

Darkseid being omitted doesn't change the plot. I'm not sure you know exactly what "core plot" actually means? The word you're looking for is "motivation," which isn't the same thing.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Where in the theatrical cut did they talk about Anti-Life?

The core plot would be an invasion from Apokolips lead by Steppenwolf and the League forms to combat that. Tell me what was changed there?

Gobstoppers12 posted...

He didn't just cut two hours. He cut two hours and then completely changed the two hours that were left. He rewrote Steppenwolf to be a crazy person who worships boxes instead of being a disgraced warrior of Apokolips trying to use the boxes to garner favor with Darkseid and return home. Cyborg barely says anything at all, but when he does, he says "Booyah"

There's an entire subplot in the Whedon version that focuses on this weird Russian family that's just kinda...living near where Steppenwolf is gathering the boxes. I get the impression we're supposed to care about them, but there's no reason for them to exist at all. Whedon literally added several minutes of running time to service a plot thread that did not need to be there.

The entire scene of Bruce and Diana arguing about bringing Superman back to life wasn't in the original. Bruce randomly decided to go on some Tony Starkian spiel about how science is meant to do wondrous things or w/e. Everybody told jokes. The Flash was rewritten to not only be goofy, but to also be grossly incompetent and pretty cowardly.

The Flash's character arc in ZSJL is about coming into his own, finding his place, realizing that he is absolutely one of the earth's most powerful heroes. In the Whedon version, The Flash's arc is to...be scared, then push a truck. That's more or less how his part in the story ends.

In the Whedon version, Superman shows up and basically single-handedly solves the entire problem while Batman stands on a ledge and basically cries. In the ZSJL, Superman died like the rest of them when the Mother Boxes synchronized and exploded, and only The Flash was capable of saving them all and giving Cyborg the power jump needed to break into the Mother Boxes and force them apart.

Speaking of mishandled characters...Cyborg in the Whedon cut was just kind of there. He didn't have a real character arc. He didn't have that huge, impactful character moment. He never said "I'm not broken...and I'm not alone."

You can make the argument that if you mute the audio and turn everything black and white, you might not be able to tell the difference between certain scenes in the Whedon cut and certain scenes in the ZSJL, but even then...tons of them are definitely reshot with wider angles, brighter lighting, completely different sets, etc.

There are huge differences. I'd say around 35% or more of the 2 hour Whedon cut was actually completely new footage shot by Whedon, with another 50% or so being Snyder footage that was tweaked or redubbed in some way. Pretty much ALL of the original music was replaced, too.

Bruh, Whedon didn't plot, story board or come up with the main story beats himself. You can not like his changes, that's fine. But blaming him as though he made the film from scratch is dumb. Nobody could've salvaged this based in the stipulations.

Tyranthraxus posted...

He changed nearly everything including the core plot of the movie.

This is completely false. The core plot is the exact same.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Part of it was recut.

No, most of it was. Again, he was given 4+ hours and mandated to make it into 2.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

A looot of it was completely re-shot to be more of a Whedon film. Dialogue changes are absolutely everywhere. You can literally see from a bunch of scenes (Most notably when Lois and Clark arrive on the farm, and when Cyborg is on the ground after dealing with the motherboxes) in the Whedon version that the lip syncing doesn't even match up in the slightest

This is all incorrect. Again, he had to cut 2 hours out so it wasn't his own film, period. "A lot" wasn't reshot, actually. He didn't do an entire film from scratch.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Did you see both versions? Because I'm betting you didn't.

You'd be very wrong. Whedon got a 4 hour film and was told to cut it down to less than 2 hours, as well as "lighten it up." Thinking this was the same film he'd have made all on his own is both wrong and stupid.

DeadBankerDream posted...

I don't understand why people shit on Whedon for this. He was literally hired to turn a grimdark Snyder film that was already in production into a Whedon film. Blame the executives who hired him to do that.

But also lol @ pretending Snyder's films are worth anything.

Right. TC is acting like this was actually a Whedon film and not a recut Snyder film.

Hoodroar posted...

This topic is the first time I've even heard about Ghostbusters 2021.

This says more about you than the film, honestly. It wasn't some underground, hidden gem.

Lol no.

Bad films out gross good films all the time.

burns112233 posted...

I like how there's no heroes or villains in this show. All of them are shady AF.

There are definitely heroes on the show.

Nemu posted...

Seems insensitive at worst from just looking at it, but I haven't actually watched it. No idea if they do shitty caricatures or just dumbed down their culture for mass consumption.

It was more of the latter with only a couple of stereotypical characters.

Lol I used to love this show as a kid. But yeah, it's a bit racially insensitive.

Y'all stay worrying about the wrong thing smh

DB_Insider posted...

Because it was important to me.

Then why quote me and say something completely unrelated? But troll on, I guess.

DB_Insider posted...

But I still thinks the directors shouldnt act in his own movie. No matter how much social credit they desreved.

I never said anything about directors acting so why are you bringing it up to me?

DB_Insider posted...

But the directors are just a small cog in marvel vast macrocosm. Feige was the one who hold the vision from start to end. I can understand giving credit to the director who direct certain movie.

Um, ok? You do realize I was saying that Feige deserves the credit he gets and the directors agree, right?

JimmyFraska posted...

Eh, same difference. The point of my post and of yours here is: The creatives at DC have not been afforded the level of corporate defense that Marvel's creatives have. So we agree on that.

Yes, definitely. But that's also because Marvel Studios was created prior to being bought by a corporation like Disney/WB. So they were already in existence prior and had proved themselves. WB execs are not going to give up their power to someone else by creating a separate DC Studios that operates autonomously.

DB_Insider posted...

Directors shouldnt act in his own film

That has nothing to do with what I said, though?

PuppetPalClem posted...

I get tired of Feige getting all the credit for the MCU.

Why? The actual directors of these films give him credit too.

That's not why. The only reason Feige got a multi-year deal is because he's the head of a seperate studio. There is no DC Studios, it's all WB. So the head of WB has the same type of contract as Feige. The contracts aren't the issue.

The actual cause is that there's no seperate studio that's only focused on creating DC films.

JlM posted...

The thought of taking Little Cesar's pizza home from a kids party is weird as hell.

People do it all the time.

Humans aren't Vulcans.

How could it be dishonest? They're selling a fantasy and people buy into it willingly.

Crescente posted...

TC is specifically looking for someone that looks like the guy from Ant-man though.

In terms of complexion. America Chavez fits.

Stallion_Prime posted...

Who? Some d lister... i guess its something. Took 4 phases lol

What A-lister would you prefer? And unless you have a time machine, complaining about it being in Phase 4 is stupid.

viewmaster_pi posted...

isn't the most current ghost rider latino? the one with the car? that'd be sick

He was in Agents of SHIELD.

America Chavez will be in Dr. Strange 2. So there you go.