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IMNOTRAGED posted...

The beast is just Rome/Nero which existed at the time of writing. It's not a prophecy, the number 666 is very clearly a reference to Nero in Aramaic writing.

1 John 2 : 18 states(Christian standard version):

"Children, it is the last hour. And as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. By this we know that it is the last hour."

The main antichrist is supposed to bring back christ himself. Pay attention to when they rebuild the temple in Jerusalem.....

TheOtherMike posted...

Setting aside that you haven't even tried to provide evidence that your God exists, this is a pretty fucking atrocious view. Like, God created all these living conscious souls, but preselected a very few to save. Meanwhile, the rest are damned to whatever punishment afterlife you believe in, exclusively because God made them seemingly for no other purpose than that. You're fucking derranged if you actually believe this. I'd say this was obvious trolling if I didn't know there are people who believe this shit.

I mean, there will be a Beast(the main Anti-christ), there also was a Judas. Pay attention though, these people will, and have made their own choices, with Gods foreknowledge. It's sad though.

DirkDiggles posted...

Is the Tooth Fairy and Santa Clause real?

In some people's mind, sure. Please share what you've heard!

RenescoStCewl posted...

Based on my tag for you either you aren't chosen or your god is a monster.

A monster? Jeez.

DirkDiggles posted...

Say that I believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy too, does this make them real? I mean there have been people that have personal experience and other accounts about them.

Please share.

Ar0ge posted...

Believing isn't knowing though...

This is true. But can they not go hand in hand?
There's writings. There's others experiences. Hear, read for yourself. I know this, all are called, few are chosen. It is God who actually gives faith, so count yourself fortunate if you are chosen by him for salvation.

hockeybub89 posted...

Do you have studies to back it up? Maybe an experiment we can easily try at home?

If you even speak the word "believe/belief", then you might as well stop. That's not science.

0x4B616E6A6F posted...

That's the thing with faith. You don't believe in something because you know it's real, otherwise it wouldn't be faith.

I don't see why this is an inherently bad thing and why it needs to be argued "herp derp can't be proven" all the time. Exactly, it can't be proven. That's the beauty of it.

There is no necessity to having to know everything. That isn't our purpose as human beings. So just enjoy the ride and don't let other people's faith in whatever dictate how you live your life. Arguing about this type of stuff is a waste of time and sometimes gets toxic.

You know it's real, that's why you believe. We have others accounts of things, and personal experience.

Merriams-webster's dictionary states:

Full Definition of evidence (Entry 1 of 2)
1
a
: an outward sign : INDICATION
b
: something that furnishes proof : TESTIMONY
specifically : something legally submitted to a tribunal to ascertain the truth of a matter
2
: one who bears witness
especially : one who voluntarily confesses a crime and testifies for the prosecution against one's accomplices

We have these things.

There are man-made gods, who in reality can do nothing, then there is the One True GOD who revealed himself to the oldest patriarchy.

TheOtherMike posted...

None of that is evidence God exists.

Cause you say so, right?

TheOtherMike posted...

There is no evidence God exists, therefore it is literally anti-science to believe he does. If you disagree, you don't understand how the scientific method works or how it responds to unfalsifiable claims.

We have text, we have witnesses, we have history. Just because you don't "believe" the evidence doesn't change the fact that it exists.

The Epistle of Paul to the Romans Chap. 10 : 14-18 states(Christian Standard version):

14 "How, then, can they call on him they have not believed in? And how can they believe without hearing about him? And how can they hear without a preacher? 15 And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news. 16 But not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, Lord, who has believed our message? 17 So faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes through the message about Christ. 18 But I ask, Did they not hear? Yes, they did:
Their voice has gone out to the whole earth,
and their words to the ends of the world."

"Whipping it out" and waving it around in public is essentially what the early believers did. It's an important message honestly. Now whether a person receives it properly or not is another story.....

True.

Still believers and non-believers too. I wonder who's the minority, and who's over taking who?

IMNOTRAGED posted...

People 2000 years ago may've needed sky daddy to tell them right from wrong. We have the benefit of access to thousands of years of history our moral authority is the lived experience of billions before us

Morally, has much changed from 2000 years ago?

BeesKnees posted...

no they are not wtf? catholicism is literally the biggest christian denomination. tf are you talking about?

Different beliefs. Kinda like Pharisees and Saducees of days past. One sect believes one thing or set of things, the other, another.

Prestoff posted...

I was taught that God reads the heart. Saying that you can sin over and over again, like getting a free pass, to me breaks the whole purpose of reconciliation.

Indeed, he does. Yea, repentance sounds to me like a conscious effort to try and not do the same sin again. I think the "effort" is the key, as one can still fail.

Number090684 posted...

Seriously. My knowledge, my moral compass, and the Law apparently considering I've never been arrested for anything. And the fact that I am not out to actively screw people over in any way.

Ah, so basically doing what is right in ones own eyes. Gotcha.

Also,

Prestoff posted...

Yeah, meeting hypocritical Christians that were super preachy and while acting like they have a high moral compass was very common when I grew up in the South. The whole point of asking God for forgiveness is the promise of abstaining from doing the sin again, not that you can keep doing the same sin over and over again. I point this out so many times (when I was younger and a Christian) and got a lot of flack for it lol.

Yea, "promising" to not do the same sin again probably isn't a good practice, seeing as we all inherently have a sinful nature....

Number090684 posted...

well when they try to act holier than thou and act as if you should repent and change your ways, even if you aren't a real bad person, when you know their own flawed past and can easily shut down some of their argument by simply mentioning it is sad. Some of it being worse than things I've said and done. I'm just left speechless sometimes at the lack of self awareness and how they are like "I asked God for forgiveness.", and I'm like "Do you think that absolves you of responsibility?". I'm not even a atheist either, I just get sick and tired of some Christians I know thinking I'm a ungodly man because I refuse to go to church weekly and take part in their farce of a community.

You feel you're not a real bad person? If so, who's your moral authority?

Jesus mentions Christians will be like the angels in heaven. No more marriage.

Also, it's mentioned that it's lawful to divorce for infidelity/fornication.

Yes. Way to easy to abuse.

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