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I wish the Switch has a god football game, I would get that and kick CEs ass

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

and youre wrong. Just because you want to feel like you were attacked doesnt mean you were. If you dont like the implications behind religion being called anti-science, I cant help you.

You are simply wrong to say that religion is anti-science. And it is an absurd thing to say because if God does exist, then God must cooperate with science. And you cant just claim that God doesnt exist. So unless you want to try understanding my beliefs instead of mocking them, we are at a total stalemate.

hockeybub89 posted...

Ok, but what makes it touchy and more controversial than other illogical, unscientific beliefs?

And part of that post was a direct response to Vy crying about how only Christianity gets criticized.

Because it's such an inherent part of so many human cultures. I feel strongly about my beliefs but I don't preach them because nobody wants to hear that.

So I forgot to wear a mask today and felt totally uncomfortable. Yeah I think I'm going to wear a mask forever

hockeybub89 posted...

The proper response to not knowing an answer is "I don't know", not "Well no one knows, so I'm gonna guess and have faith I'm right."

The real question is what makes religion special? People will scrutinize or mock all kinds of illogical beliefs, but if you do that to religion, it's suddenly taboo.

Because it is a very touchy and controversial subject that very few people agree on. Why can you not mock someone's religious beliefs, and if you are questioning them directly, why does your first response have to be "Imagine believing... Islam and Judaism and everything else are just as fucking silly when you really think about."

Like I said, I'm totally cool with other people's religious or cosmological beliefs. But it's pretty clear that you and several other people here are not, and that is something YOU need to work on. Live and let live.

Is thunder included in the seven wonders?

Lol at the VIRGIN! guy

Fine, I will specifically answer your question.

If your friend dropped you off at the store and said they would be back in 1 hour, and you believe what they say, you would be having faith in them. There would be zero reason to question your belief in science.

Now if a person believes that the Bible is literally true, the earth is 6000 years old, there was once a great flood that killed everything on earth but life was able to continue on thanks to Noah's efforts, etc. then there is good reason to say that someone is being anti-science. To accept these as literally true you have to deny many scientific discoveries.

But believing God exists and created the universe is not the same thing as this. We don't know the answer to these questions, and saying that God is behind them is just as good an answer as any. The difference between believing in Bible stories and believing in God is the unfalsifiability of the existence of God. When we are talking about things that are falsifiable, then it makes sense to use scientific arguments. When we are talking about things that are unfalsifiable, it doesn't. Going back to that original example, imagine if you responded to your friend by saying "Sorry I can't just take your word for it, I need evidence that you will be back in 1 hour", you would probably get a response of WTF, for good reason.

In other words, religion and science are related, but they are separate, and that's okay. And again, saying religious people are fundamentally anti-science is a pretty thinly-veiled insult against their intelligence, but whatever.

The good news is he's alive. Hopefully he'll open up to you or someone else

TheOtherMike posted...

That's a lot of words to sidestep the question.

You are mistaken about your religious beliefs. Unfalsifiable claims should be dismissed specifically because they're unfalsifiable. Affirmative belief in unfalsifiable claims is literally antithetical to the scientific method.

By your logic the above paragraph is an attack. Why is that an attack but a similar criticism of anything else is not?

I went into more detail in the post above that one. You are wrong to say religious and scientific beliefs can't coexist, and I'll leave it at that.

And also, my attack claim stems from the general opinion that this board has of religion and religious beliefs. Hostility does not have to be explicit, and I feel pretty justified in my view.

Also it just makes sense to wear one in cold weather. Block your face from the harmful cold and stay safer during cold/flu season too.

More pics please, the absurdity of these makes me laugh

I like the way it looks

TheOtherMike posted...

@Shishiwakamaru

The reason why is that you can't simply tell a religious person they are "mistaken." The existence of God, the afterlife, etc. is unfalsifiable, so you never will be able to prove a religious person wrong. That's what makes religious beliefs special compared to political beliefs for example. Even if you don't believe the same things as another person you should have a basic level of respect for their religious beliefs. If you are an atheist you should try to be the opposite of the example r/atheism sets.

hockeybub89 posted...

The very concept of faith is anti-science.

I think there's a difference between unscientific and anti-science that a lot of people here are ignoring. There are many fundamental questions about human life and the universe that no one knows the answer to. There is nothing scientific about attributing these things to God, but there is nothing anti-science about it either.

You know, the concept of faith exists outside of religious contexts. If you trust in someone or take someone for their word, you are having faith in them. There is nothing scientific about this, but there is nothing anti-science about it either. The problem here is that people aren't differentiating between these two terms. And furthermore it's pretty clear that people here are calling religious people stupid. That's just my perspective, though.

Trumble posted...

Conspiracy theories about the origin of life are no more legitimate than any other conspiracy theories.

I know I'm speaking to different people, but come on. You are calling religious beliefs conspiracy theories and I honestly don't know if the other people agree with this view or not. I mean if you do, I don't think there's any question about 'attacking' anymore...

Let me ask you this before I say anything else, can you tell me which of my beliefs specifically (knowing that I am a religious person who doesn't believe the stories in religious texts are literally true, generally speaking) are anti-science?

You are essentially calling all religious beliefs illegitimate. I would call that an attack. And you are doing so based on weak generalizations. IMO the best response is to just call out your rhetoric.

Win for introverted birds

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Im not attacking them, Im just saying they deny science and religion is not compatible with science. So long as they stick to just religion its fine, but I hope they dont move onto other more problematic beliefs

Yes, and I am calling that attacking.

Religious people, even of the same religion and denomination, are not a monolith. When you say religious people are fundamentally anti-science, you necessarily are turning religious people into a monolith.

Did you see that comic from yesterday where the Marvel and Star Wars fan wouldnt date the woman because she was religious? If you thought that was wrong or oversimplifying the argument at all, maybe you can see where Im coming from.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

It inherently does. Belief in god means you deny one of the most fundamental rules of our universe which is that you cannot create or destroy energy.

Wonderful, you have just disproved all religion.

Not really of course. A very simple response to this is that God must exist outside of the rules of the universe while the universe itself obviously must follow them. That isnt a very controversial claim. If you dont agree with it OK, but stop attacking people who do.

DD Divine posted...

ill bash both but at the end of the day one thing I appreciate about Judaism is that they encourage you to ask questions. They want you to be thoughtful. When I asked questions about Catholicism growing up it was usually met with anger or answered with it just is

Who is they? Right now you are talking about differences in denominations and even differences in regions/clergy and individuals. Just imagine the difference being taught about religion by a lead pastor of a megachurch vs. Maimonides. And Im sure the pastor has a much bigger following as well.

BTW there is nothing wrong with picking and choosing your religious beliefs. I think ultimately you need to find your own religion or lack thereof for yourself because that is the only way to really think critically about these things.

Having faith in God or anything else does not mean you are anti-science. The people saying or implying otherwise are simply wrong and are frankly insulting all religious people.

ElleRagu posted...

sonic 06 was sonic adventure 3

No.

Even if it started as Sonic Adventure 3, theres a reason it didnt finish as SA3

Relient_K posted...

Wow if that's real then it's pretty amazing. Also great meme template in general.

The temperance movement when Prohibition is enacted

After a huge black market is created

topic

Autoluminescent posted...

Truth: everyone who thinks they're the altright chadbro probably are as saggy and greasy as a sack of week old potato scallops.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/1/5/AAfJQaAAC6dD.jpg

Did this guy make any more?

The poll is too clouded by nostalgia.

90s is just behind the 2000s tho

There are fanmade patches for Earthbound Zero to make it better. Did Nintendo do any of this?

are each the 3rd and 4th titles in their series

Wait, Billie Eilish got a new hairstyle?

Is TC a reddit stonk bro?

Bam's parents were the biggest loss

these were such a big fad in like 2004-2005

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Lord_Shadow posted...

I hope so it would be funny football sucks

garbage tier opinion

We dont know what a non-simulation NFL game is. It could be an arcade game like NFL Blitz or NFL Street or it could be a much more realistic game but 10 vs. 10

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/russian-gallery-painting-display-damage-b2012175.html

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/4/AAfJQaAAC6PS.jpg

Last May it was delayed until after March 22, and you would think they would want to release it before the NFL season (and probably before the next Madden game, which will be released in August)

The thing is, we know absolutely nothing about this game.

That sucks so much

I wish they made an actual Mario Football game

It would probably instantly become the best football game available

if it comes out this year...

Best multiplayer game

People are going to get tired of Star Wars tbh

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/3/AAfJQaAAC6B1.jpg

It should be part of your your work day. No 8-5 or 9-6 BS, you should just get an hour to have lunch every day

Turbam posted...

Nice vagina bones

what now?

Look at his argument though. People arent attracted to wrists. Hes saying people are only attracted to boobs because they are wannabe asses

PiOverlord posted...

I want to be the fence that gets sat on.

you mean the belly?

I have no need for this and wont buy it but I like it