Lurker > _HayleyWilliams

Gonna be a no from me, dawg

What if console exclusivity goes away though

homt

I had a car cut me off so close that I couldn't see his signal until he was in front of me.

Can't believe we have someone arguing that singleplayer games need to stop being made.

I wonder why hospitals would be filling up beds and stressing themselves out for 2 years while the ER is filled to capacity, for a cold.

Need to hear the conspiracy theory on that. Are they just pretending to be full? Or are they doing something more sinister in those wards? And to what end?

Remember when the Internet used to love fight videos and people recognized that while iniating physical violence may be wrong and deserve punishment, so is being a piece of shit and it's funny when those people get hit?

Now it seems like the shittier someone is, the more people will defend their rights and make it all about that person being an innocent victim

UnfairRepresent posted...

anti vaxxers don't care

And stories like this somehow only empower their beliefs.

xGhostchantx posted...

It shouldn't be a choice. It affects peoples lives and their families in profound ways and it's impossible to know just how bad it will be for the first two or so years. I would be me and you would be you, but better.

It should definitely be a choice if you're high-functioning. I still have my doubts that I would be me in this chip scenario.

CableZL posted...

Covid misinformation is literally getting people killed

I was chastising it actually. Sorry for the ambiguity

Number090684 posted...

Why did she have to do that though? Why jump? If she was dissatisfied with something in her life she shouldn't jumped and should have just did things more privately.

Shut the fuck up

Will Fox News be offended by Jimmy Kimmel, or defend him against "cancel culture"?

I guess it depends on how they can best use this non-story to trigger the libs.

Not much that I have found

Flauros posted...

This is low key racist AF

South is a race?

Rain_Dust posted...

Holy shit you people are nuts. If you WANT it then you can get it. You act like this is a FORCED operation that you MUST get!!!!111 Holy fuck, if you dont want it then dont get it. It could help others.

It's actually nothing for anyone because it's just some magical idea dreamed up by a rich asshole.

Uncharted

Doom

Terrorists don't need super powers to cause a lot of death and destruction

onedarksoul posted...

If you guys are genuinely curious, I'll put together some bullet points about whats out there. It'll be a week or so, have a busy work week coming up. Real facts could help some of you and thats precisely why the media doesn't give us any.

You'd think the media would do a better job of not making these "real facts" accessible to anyone with an Internet connection, but I guess "the media" has conditioned me to think with logic and reject conspiracy theories from people who think they are brilliant if the media they believe without question tells them the rest of the media is lying to them.

I've never met someone who talked about real facts or being a free thinker that had actually possessed facts or self-awareness

Dragon239 posted...

Isn't this just attributing your identity to one thing (autism) and not another (anxiety)? Would you really still be "you" if you didn't have it?
What makes your anxiety not part of what has formed you or shaped your personality, or life experiences, or anything else?

I mean the obvious answer might be "it's a part I DON'T like" or "it's specific enough I can't attribute it to too much", but those seem as arbitrary as anything else.

I guess you need to be me to understand. I also have a number of physical issues unrelated to mental health. Every experience obviously affects our lives, but I recognize pain and distress. I have always been aware of that physical or mental pain and desired to be rid of it like an annoying roommate. Autism is a completely different wiring of your brain. My every thought for over 30 years has been made with this brain. It might not be the "normal" brain, but it created me. Who exactly would I be without it? What would this hypothetical cure change specifically and how?

"We are sorry if anyone is offended" energy

0x4B616E6A6F posted...

We shouldn't treat brain tumors because the tumor created a new personality and curing it would be eugenics.

We shouldn't treat schizophrenia because the illness killed the past self and we shouldn't bring that person back

Anyone else hear a farting noise?

COVxy posted...

No, what I'm arguing is that a subpopulation of people with autism are entirely controlling that narrative at the expense of other people with autism, and they can do that because they are less disadvantaged.

For people who are high functioning, it is perfectly natural to want the world to view you as normal, but a little different. So it makes complete sense to push the view that we just need to spend time understanding those with autism, and then all is pefect. This issue is that this view, autism as personality rather than disorder, makes it very easy and very tempting to make the leap to eugenics. All treatment of autism is just eugenics, because they don't fit in with society.

I think this is extraordinarily damaging to those who are the most vulnerable. People who actually do need treatment, because without it they will definitely have no independence and will often harm themselves.

That's fair

I4NRulez posted...

What lol

Autism doesn't define a person. No mental illness makes someone who they are.

If someone could take away my anxiety and depression I'd be all for it

I want my anxiety taken away too. That wouldn't kill my sense of self like a magical cure for autism would.

knightmarexx posted...

Does Frank want to flap his hands around, or is it caused by a neurodivergent developmental disorder he has no control over? Does he like being blunt, or would he prefer to be able to interact more personably?

Frank has the choice, and if it's a chip (a magical cure-all chip, from the sounds of the interview) - he can flip it back off, if he prefers what it was like before. What's wrong with that? In fact, the Chip - gives Frank a choice, that nature never did.

We should not allow hypothetical cures for things that aren't actively harming or debilitating. It's one thing to treat low-functioning autism, another to start providing vanity cures to anyone who goes "I kinda feel like being a different person now." That would be some wacky eugenics thing where you can medicate personality traits and interests out of society

COVxy posted...

What absolutely is a priority is treatment to incease positive life outcomes. Investigation into the neurological cause so as to be able to treat during development to either reduce or eliminate the symptoms. These are things that are actively out of vogue.

Second, the reason there isn't a groundswell of long term residential programs despite massive massive campaigns destimatizing autism is that those campaigns almost exclusively focus on high functioning individuals, to the point where public perception of people with autism is "someone who may have a bit of trouble socializing but is intellgent in most other facets and has their own special way of thinking".

You're essentially arguing that woke society is preventing us from partaking in science and healthcare.

I really wish crypto would disappear

AceMos posted...

im saying it should be his choice

He is talking about someone that can't choose, bro!

COVxy posted...

Because it's a general sentiment borne out of a community of people who have taken the label "autism" and incorporated it into their identity. They actively make it hard to treat and care for those who are low functioning because they brand any type of treatment as conversion therapy/torture.

Like, there just aren't resources available for those who are lower functioning, especially if their family isn't extremely well off. Like after 21 years old, pretty much all state funded care tends to disappear. Because the only way it really exists is through alternative school systems, and after that age they are just SOL.

It literally is who I am. And I absolutely back increased support for the lower-functioning. We work with a number of group homes for autism at my job.

I don't even think autism can be cured. That doesn't seem to be a priority outside of bro-science and pop science.

AceMos posted...

what does your nephew want

Ok even I agree you're being a little much here, TC. Come on now.

COVxy posted...

Naw, it's more like the high-functioning community has hijacked the narrative and actively ignored the needs of those who are low-functioning like they don't exist.

Those who are low-functioning cannot advocate for themselves, and their own community would seemingly prefer they didn't exist. All of which is just fucked up.

No one is gonna cure autism with a microchip, though, and we all agree that we hate Musk, so why do you care that people are against this?

When we're all dead

The_Viscount posted...

Considering I think the idea of resigning without something else lined up -- unless the workplace is dangerous or some other extreme circumstance -- is fucking stupid, no.

This is how they want you to think so you'll stay enslaved by the machine.

VipaGTS posted...

how so? using the word "cured" is wrong but if you could change something that hinders you, why wouldn't you? Maybe TC isn't hindered but plenty of others can be. I have sever social anxiety at times. If you told me you could "cure" that i'd be all over it. Fuck all this "but its who i am" nonsense. Others with it can feel that way, but it doesn't mean you should take the chance away from everyone.

Autism isn't just the hindering parts though. I would love to have my social anxiety cured. That doesn't define me. It isn't responsible for my entire person.

We don't live in China

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Crazy to think Ice Cube and Kyrie Irving are that obsessed with Trump.

Are black people not allowed to think for themselves?

Gucci_Josh posted...

Personally I know several people who in the early days of the covid vaccine were uncertain but later became convinced that it was a good choice, the amount of people who choose to get the covid vaccine has increased over time.

I think it is a bad strategy to resign yourself to an antagonistic stance you know is doomed to fail rather than be open to people adopting a calm data based stance that may be slower that many of us would like but still will persuade many.

I'm not saying your frustration is invalid, I'm just saying people's approach should be aligned with the goals, and thus if the goal is getting more people vaccinated the approach should be aligned with that.

Nah. They can shut the fuck up. Be correct or get left behind. No tolerance for bullshit. They have no excuse.

I can't wait to be reminded that "This is a time for unity". We can hate and fuck each other over the 200 weeks in between though.

Gucci_Josh posted...

Good science, clean data, clearly shared IMO is the answer.

Imagine knowing thousands of years of human history and thinking the average person gives a damn about science or logic in their thinking.

These hesitant people couldn't give you a single piece of data about the vaccines children get, but suddenly they're science-minded people that only operate on hard data?

monkmith posted...

ironic, since one of his famous online tantrums ended when he randomly called a guy a pedophile for saving all those kids in a flooded cave.

And this, but I'm sure his fans that work for him for free have a spin.

You know the world is end-stage when the richest and most powerful are Internet trolls, and millions of common men who they exploit defend it.

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Why wouldnt we?

Because China

Fam_Fam posted...

everyone has the right to get the vaccine. someone choosing not to get the vaccine does not infringe on others' to do what they want

Yes it does, actually. This is why we force children to get vaccines to go to school.

2022 and people think contagious diseases only affect the individual.

Fam_Fam posted...

yeah i mean their point is that the government doesn't have the right to tell you what to do with your body.

If only their personal freedom was relevant and this had anything to do with bodily autonomy. Freedom means less than shit when it infringes on someone else's.

Saying you have a right to not vaccinate is akin to saying you have a right to abort someone else's fetus.

JTilly posted...

I bet you think Disney is on the far-left.

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I have family that will literally tell me that you can't change society and just need to deal with how things are, then tell me they will absolutely not get a booster or wear a mask again outside of work.

VipaGTS posted...

i mean, im glad you are able to own it, but some people are far worse off. also, its like calling a company that makes prosthetic body parts trash, because someone born without their arm fully developed shouldn't want a prosthetic because its "who they are".

It's actually nothing like that.

I love IMSA