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10

Best case in the series.

Hand Grenade

Fortress 2

1/10

This is actually my least favourite case in the whole series.

9/10

and run

Vibrate only with most app-related notifications off, unless I'm expecting an important call, then I'll un-mute it for that.

Tome

10/10

Baked

6/10

Night

1 = worst in franchise, 5-6 = average, 10 = best in franchise

Going with 6/10

All toasters toast toast

On a scale of 1 = worst in ace attorney, 5-6 = average, 10 = best in ace attorney:

3/10

It's not awful, but it's crazy short and revolves around one of the series' more annoying characters. The wig throw is absolutely iconic, though.

Rushmore
Fuji

RTS is probably the easiest to get into if you don't play them. It's a shame that it's pretty dead as an esports genre now. Watching SC1&2 during their peaks was wonderful.

Fighting games are probably the 2nd easiest thing to watch imo, but you've already mentioned you're not satisfied with that.

So, tbh, I don't think there's any great options left at the moment. Trackmania would have been a suggestion, but its main esports league went belly-up this year, so that's now gone too.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

I couldn't disagree with this more strongly

Undertale is a ludic masterpiece. It's one of its strongest aspects, in fact -- the intermixing of gameplay and story is what makes it such a memorable experience and without it it'd land a lot less hard. There's a reason tons of 'boss fight' mods exist for it too, like for example Undertale RED. It holds your hand a lot early on and if you stay on the 'correct' path, but the deeper into it you go the less true this is. That one fight (you know which) made like ten hours of my life vanish in a flash and I can't say that a game that did that has weak gameplay.

I agree with the ludic aspect but stand by what I said. I think we're talking about slightly different things.

The gameplay fits the narrative yes, but I don't think Undertale would have been the hit it was if you ditched the story and just made it a mostly-storyless bullet hell dodging game with its current mechanics. And that's what I mean by it not being carried by its gameplay.

I frequently see people complaining about the gameplay being boring / clunky / half-baked, and that's because it's so simple. There's almost no items other than healing items. Acts are often very simple and just involve trial and erroring the correct answer. Fight is completely ignored in most playthroughs. For people who want a little more strategy and RPGness, or want the act trees to be a bit more involved, or for the battle system to vary it up more than it already does, it's disappointing. Something like Shapes and Beats gets away with it by being even more extra with its presentation, and extremely focused.

For some people, narrative is deeply secondary and they aren't going to give it a chance unless the gameplay bangs on its own, ignorant of its context. I know people like that.

It's one of my favourite games ever!

It feels like a bit of a bait to ask about it here though, because GameFAQs is a bit of an echo chamber of hate for it, even outside of b8.

If you don't like it by the end of Snowdin, I'd say there's pretty much zero chance of your opinion changing as you go further. It's just not for you.

I'd say it's a game for people who seek irreverent, quirky things, simple joys, and stories that are optimistic and sincere, and that wear their heart on their sleeve. It's not for people who strongly prefer tightly written, intellectually stimulating, dramatically intense stories, layered in intrigue and metaphor. Nor people who put focus into gameplay over narrative, since it's such a mechanically simple game. Also, some of its defining traits were mildly novel at the time it came out (e.g. not killing things, and the game being aware of multiple playthroughs), but aren't particularly remarkable now.

Would you enjoy games like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon or Earthbound? Shows like Adventure Time or Owl House? Then Undertale probably has a chance to resonate with you. If not, then it probably won't.

Papers

Doom

We don't go to ravenholm

Where there's smoke, there's fire

Bandicoot

Winter

Animal

Switch

Nintendo

Korra

Zelda

VII

Odyssey

War

Out

to the Future

Sanctum

Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

Wilds

Bowser (as a character)

Niv-Mizzet

There Yet?

Taxi

Prelude
Chocobo Theme
One Winged Angel
Dancing Mad

End

Fantasy

Hover

(Somehow this was the first thing I thought of when I saw the prompt, and not Mine or Star)

Times

Backstreet

House