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Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Leafeon13N posted...

Vlado is probably off the Russian troll farm payroll now. Or they let his family out of prison or whatever.

It's automation. Bots have stolen his job.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ZenOfThunder posted...

mallet w/ bluish-green hair

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Merry also isn't a man he's a hobbit

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

yeah, Saruman gave in to corruption and power

Gandalf sacrificed himself for the sake of mortals

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I would've picked among Colts/Titans/Dolphins/Ravens/Browns but no you've picked them all already.

That week 17 fighting-for-playoffs power.

Dallas is a solid pick.

Best of luck.

rule 4 bitches

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

euchre is a boring version of pinochle

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

BotW probably

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

-hotdogturtle-- posted...

A lot of people are going to miss the hyphen in the topic title, I expect.

oh def

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Yeah I felt fantastic about it but now I'm seeing the BIPOC perspective. I don't know if it's widely felt, but a re-examination of the movie does make some of those things stand out.

It's still spectacular, and I can't help but wonder if some of the racial issues with the film disappear if a black woman is cast in Tina Fey's role?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

why are we talking about xenoblade and not donkey kong 64

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

fuck it

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

screw it

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

donkey kong 64

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Oh, also, if you're wondering how this information ISN'T useless -

I've had to compose music for preschool-Kindergarten children, one school of which had a majority student base of ESL students. Understanding the study of folk song rhythms and intervals makes it so that one can write music that is more developmentally appropriate for students of that age.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

HashtagSEP posted...

It's a stretch already to make Columbus work, how the hell does Lincoln work

It's incredibly odd because the rhythmic structure is entirely unique.

Ignoring the middle section of the song, the lines follow a simple ABABABAB all the time. The echoes follow this as well.

Reindeer
Like a lightbulb
Saw it
Like a lightbulb
Reindeer
Like Pinocchio
Rudolph
Like Monopoly

Loved him
Yippee
Reindeer
Like (historical figure)

Every single A line is a two syllable echo, with every B line followed by a silly line that has small enough rhythmic units to demonstrate the song is in compound meter (aside - this IS important because studies of children's songs show that kids default to compound meter in their folk songs as they default to minor thirds as intervals that are sung).

The only time where that pattern is broken is with 'Yippee', which makes sense because rhythmically, it's adding variation that lends itself to setting up the line as being dominant leading to a cadence.

"Like Lincoln" is just three beats. It breaks from rhythmic tonality, which doesn't make sense, and there isn't a single other time in the song where the echo is only three beats, unless you follow other weird things like 'like Dumbo'.

tl;dr - incorrect rhythm in the final echo is the same as ending the song on a different chord

Lopen posted...

But I'm not extrapolating further. This is case for case and not a hard rule. I wouldn't say Trump works. I actually would say Charlie Brown works less well than Lincoln too despite it having one more syllable because I can't figure out how to draw things out/add pauses on that one

It is a hard rule though. Columbus just doesn't break the rule.

Charlie Brown is also weird, but makes a tad more sense than Lincoln. You just make the rhythm "two three-ah four". But in the song, we're used to having the third partial on the second beat for the echoes and that's why it is also weird in this situation.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

The problem is if you extrapolate your point further, then you would say "there's no difference between singing 'like George Washington' and 'like Trump'". Rudolph is a syllabic song. And all the additional 'playground additions' are as well. Syllables do matter. Not really enough where 'Like Columbus' doesn't fit, but yes where 'like Lincoln' does not.

My response was just along the lines of saying that if you discount syllables, which is rhythm in this instance, then you are contradicting yourself.

Because syllables are cadence, with regards to this song.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

You know, if you didn't include the line about "dumbing down singing", we wouldn't even really be disagreeing about anything?

Syllables are linked to rhythm, even in melismatic singing. You agreed with this yourself. Yes, a single syllable removal doesn't change the line much at all, but keep in mind, you were responding to a rather innocuous post.

I'd explain how 'over-complicating children chanting on a playground' is not a thing, but I'm sure you wouldn't be interested in me going over the studies of Zoltan Kodaly and children's folk songs in western culture through the ages so I'll leave that one alone.


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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

redrocket posted...

bruh

he has a point

His point is that syllables aren't important to the rhythm of a sung line, except they are. So no, not really.

Lopen posted...

Uh huh. The guy who went into a 3 paragraph rant about music jargon is totally the calm one here

You erroneously accused me of "dumbing down singing", so I assumed you'd want a more thought-out response. I didn't expect you to get mad and insult me for it!

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

lol so mad

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Lopen posted...

Bro, I can say "like Columbus" exactly like I remember "like George Washington" despite the former having one more syllable by drawing out the lum a bit.

I know they're inherently linked with Rhythm but you're dumbing down how singing works if you need everything to be one for one.

Would you prefer I talk about how in melismatic writing, you would never intentionally extend an "M" sound, and how in good choral practice you only extend vowels, so that "Like Columbus" would be pronounced "Like Colooombus"?

It's a different rhythm unless you add a melisma but nobody is singing two notes for the syllable "um" so therefore the rhythmic movement is different, and the cadence is notably different because, and get this, a dotted quarter note is different from a quarter note paired with an eighth note.

If anybody here is dumbing down singing, it's you by insisting that the two have the same cadence. They do not.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Lopen posted...

Syllables don't matter as much as cadence anyway.

Syllables are inherently linked to rhythm, bro

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

and Chris

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

HanOfTheNekos posted...

han invokes rule 4

oops

sorry Ulti and Christ

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I guess I can see "Like Columbus" because it matches up with "like a lightbulb", but it's still weird because Columbus is such an odd choice to shove in there.

"Like George Washington" fits the same syllables as Pinocchio and Monopoly, which is pretty strong, and George Washington is ubiquitously recognized.

"Like Lincoln" is so bad that it has to be somebody intentionally trying to sabotage one's enjoyment of the song.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik7 posted...

Its a fact. Why would you even be giving different options than a three syllable response to go after history.

It's such a hard reversal on anything sounding remotely good that I can only imagine whomever came up with it did it as a joke.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik7 posted...

I have never heard anyone ever say anything other than Like Lincoln.

obvious troll is obvious

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

like a lightbulb

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Love, Actually

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

han invokes rule 4

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

this is a trap

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

BetrayedTangy posted...

Just Ohio.

Like every other person on this planet.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Nostalgia isn't the only reason to like SM64. It's just the reason to rank it higher than others.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I never finished Galaxy. Sunshine is just a better made game than 64, although it has elements people don't enjoy..

64 only tops lists due to nostalgia and stubbornness. Camera isn't great, controls have some lingering issues, jumping is harder to accomplish in this game than any other Mario.

I've heard Galaxy 2 is the best 3D Mario.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

In the MCU, my two favorites are Avengers (Superheroes in New York? Give me a break!) and Winter Solider (I am so fired).

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

when I did this on Facebook, it was The West Wing and Among Us.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Really enjoyed the lack of voices in Lego Star Wars, but Lego LotR has amazing lines so it's hard to not love it

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Many of these are average.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

it would be very painful
you're a big guy
for you

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

doing another run, come hang!

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

https://www.twitch.tv/xinfis

as always, streaming for the people. come have fun!

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Mr. Fucking Bean

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Vampires don't have to be magical

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

scarletspeed7 posted...

I will be leading the children in song, for I am the press secretary.

Hey, I was just flipping a nickel in my office. Sixteen times in a row it came up tails.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Mr Lasastryke posted...

sure sounds like it.

you're making it sound as if i'm thinking "hmm, what's something i could get riled up about today? oh wait, here's xic not doing much to fight against an unjust rule! that's a good one!" that's fucking ridiculous.

spoilers: i don't actually enjoy getting riled up and it's probably not good for my mental health.

If you didn't enjoy it so much, you wouldn't pursue it like you are in this topic :V

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

No one said you were pretending, bro

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

HanOfTheNekos posted...

You are asking him to do MORE because you want an excuse to get riled up.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

all i said is that i'm disappointed that he's not doing more

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

To bounce off of that - yes, I am the same, taking your excuse to have an argument as an excuse to argue myself.

Anyway, I don't really have much more to say. This topic sucks and is now about trains

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Mr Lasastryke posted...

would have been better if he'd said this from the outset instead of just saying "the moderation was completely fair!" over and over again, though.

Again, you are asking him to champion the cause of fighting against unjust rules.

He came in to explain the moderation. A question was asked and he answered it. You are asking him to do MORE because you want an excuse to get riled up.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Not to mention, as he has said, he has said he disagrees.

You're trying to continue an argument that doesn't really exist because you like to argue.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic