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because intent doesn't quite work that way

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

StealThisSheen posted...

He very much initially tried to downplay it as not a big deal/something "most" people do. I'll recant the "everybody," that was hyperbole.

I guess I just read it as him explaining his mental position and asking for clarification on other peoples' mindsets so he understood the situation more.


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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I don't think Santa ever said "C'mon, everybody does it." If he did, I'll be proven wrong, but if he didn't, then you're intentionally misrepresenting his words to make him sound worse than he is.

I mean, I skim back a quick second and see this:
Santa: "What he did was fucked up."
Somebody else: "WHY IS SANTA DEFENDING HIM"

???

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

idk I feel like Santa's mostly just trying to be introspective and people are jumping down his throat because whenever stuff like this comes up, people have blinders on and assume anything other than strict condemnation is supporting abuse

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

SmallAnt is pretty big too, but that accusation against him is kind of strange.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Yeah. Met some good friends, have gotten some good support especially in terms of confidence and mental health. I met one of my college roommates on here.

Good shit.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

CoolCly posted...

got em

Yeah. Good call. Guy's fucked up.


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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Yeah, the flashbacks and scenes at the farm towards the end of the game were a little much. I guess their goal was to make you think it was the end of the game, then surprise you with more, but it got me a bit there.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

People suck

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

That upsets me so immensely. Abby was a difficult character to balance, and I don't think they could've picked a better actor.


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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

He said the claims were true, but there weren't any graphic pictures. What's next, dick pics?

She releases those, he's like "it's true, I sent her pics, but that's all, I swear" then she's like nuh-uh here's videos of him touching me inappropriately and we just repeat ad nauseum?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Come join us on Discord for some Jackbox maybe?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

tbf, Shine ran hentai/Kobe contests for years

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

theawesomestevr posted...

Yeah, while the initial stuff that was said about him seemed silly, the allegations against him regarding that are definitely serious, and pretty messed up if true.

The evidence provided doesn't really conclusively prove anything, but the allegations surrounding it are much worse.

What's the deets?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Woof. This went places today.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

UltimaterializerX posted...

Go look at season 1 of Game of Thrones and pretend the "Baelor" episode was #2 instead of #9. That's essentially what this game's plot does.

No, that would be if that episode was episode #2 of Season 2.

You're focusing on the wrong thing of this discussion, and I would assume it's because you probably didn't actually play the game.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

So you're saying they should have made a whole extra game before this one that gives you investment into Joel and his relationship with Ellie?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

tcaz2 posted...

I did not sympathize at ALL with Abby. She is an absolutely awful excuse for a human being that I genuinely wanted dead even more after her part of the story than I did before

Yikes. I'd hate to see how much you hate Ellie, then.

UltimaterializerX posted...

The issue, as Ive said at least 50 times now in various threads, is killing him right at the beginning of the game with no buildup under the circumstances presented.

Ulti, this is basic plot structure. Joel's death is the inciting event. You can't have a story about Ellie seeking revenge for Joel's death, alongside a story of Joel's killer learning to move on from empty revenge, without the act of killing Joel.

You're asking for Star Wars without Luke getting R2-D2. Iron Man without Tony getting kidnapped.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Is it just a romhack of Shadows of the Empire?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I'm not going to watch it but comparing Abbie/Ellie to Boss/Snake is a really bad comparison to make.

Team Magma/Team Aqua is an awful choice, and it'd be better.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

"meaningful changes or improvements" strikes to me more as gameplay or design, as opposed to story

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Steamed Hams Pink Floyd the Wall

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

They also mentioned that this is common practice if developers read reviews and identify mistakes.

Like, if a review comes out for Kingdom Hearts 3 that says "I really didn't like the Little Mermaid world" then you'd have no problem with Square contacting them to say "there is no Little Mermaid world, dipshit".

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Ultimate Jessica Drew

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Livewire

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

kevwaffles posted...

Plot armor

"Yeah, so, back in the day, I used to die a lot. And whenever that happened, it hurt, but then I'd wake up just fine a few minutes before I died. Figured, you know, here in New Jackson, probably ain't gonna need that anymore. So figured I'd hand it off to some travelers who could us it, get me a nice tin of coffee."

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

the stuff

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Yeah, looking at that schedule, it looks at first glance as an 8-8 result. But it's Belichick, so I think I would lean towards 9-7.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

For people who have finished the game:

What do you think Joel traded for that coffee?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ZeroSignal620 posted...

Patriots schedule...
Miami, Buffalo, and NYJ twice
The NFC West
The AFC West
Baltimore
Houston

At worst, 4-2 in their division (Miami and/or Buffalo surprising them). Split the NFC West for 2-2 (winning against LA and Arizona). 3-1 in AFC West, losing to Kansas City. Baltimore's probably a loss, Houston's definitely a win.

At worst, 10-6. Maybe 11-5.

This seems a little hopeful.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Yeah.

I think the first part wasn't bad, but the second part had no stakes. He only ever shot directly in front of him. Would've liked it a lot more if you had to shoot him in places to stun him, then maybe, take a page out of Shadow of the Colossus and have to climb him to stab him in places.

That was a sweet ending though. I'm hyped for BotW2!

Went back in to get my reward for a complete compendium and... it's a nude photo?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Oh, not in sets?

Usually I do 10 a minute for 10 minutes then max out at the end.

Straight up from go though? I'll have to test this tomorrow.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I did not do the pushups.

Zelda just fucking no-sold Ganon to his face. Badass.

Destroy Ganon Complete.



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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Oh, I could do 200 pushups first. If you want.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Ganon, please give me a minute to take a picture of you and myself with this brand new bow.

I love that it just plopped me back in the middle of the map with my horsey.

He's not exactly very threatening though.

This music is PHENOMENAL though. This track is just blowing me away right now, like wow.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

That boss was pretty okay! Really cool design, wish it was a little more combat-y. But that's fine.

Dark Beast Ganon... hell yeah, this guy looks awesome.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

This whole Hyrule Castle segment was great, and this Calamity Ganon design is amazing. Loving the music too. Kinda wish he didn't lose half of his hp from me completing main quests but whatever.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Here's what bothered me. At the Abby boss fight with big amalgam guy, the game glitched and Abby didn't have a mask on. I didn't realize this was a glitch, and I thought it was cool that they were suddenly going to reveal Abby realizing that she had been immune the whole time. How does that change things? How does she feel when, telling her father she'd be okay being operated on if she was immune, realizes if she knew she would've prevented his death and provided a cure?

I was really excited to see how they dealt with that and what it meant for how she viewed Ellie, but then LOL IT'S JUST A GLITCH and then I was bothered.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I think the issue with likability on Abby is that you have to be willing to separate her from the act of killing Joel. You can hate that she did it but still acknowledge the why, and observe how her future story goes and how she's changed from taking her act of revenge, being swerved by guilt to become a better person.

If you can't get over her killing Joel then you will just cheer for Ellie and Tommy being worse people and then get disappointed when you don't get to kill Abby.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Didn't know Kass had an extra song for me at Rito Village. That was cool.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

And... I found it. At the place where you meet the uh... bird guy. Dronoc Pass. With the air archery course.

Climbing to the top reveals... the 900th Korok.

A quick trip to Hestu.

"NAAAAAAAICE!"

Got my golden poop.

I have completed my quest.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

FIRST MISSING ONE.

Lakeside Stable in Faron. There are leaves... on the UNDERSIDE of the horse's chin. And you have to burn them. That's RIDICULOUS.

ONE. LEFT.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hyrule Field and Castle. 12 more Koroks. I'm at 888. There's a few scattered about to start.

First one is right on the gate for Hyrule Castle Town. It's just shooting the shield on the north side of the arch.

Second is east in the Applean Forest. In this massive apple forest, there is a set of three apple trees that I missed.

Third is northeast of the tower, in the middle of the field. There's actually a shooting gallery pinwheel in this little copse of trees that I missed.

Fourth is in the BEEG area southeast of this. Right in the middle. Just a guy running around in circles.

Fifth is southwest of tower and Mount Daphnes. Just across from Gleeok bridge. Grouping of trees. Pot in a tree trunk.

Sixth is at East Post Ruins, east of the Forest of Time. This one is another shooting gallery pinwheel.

Seventh is just north of the coliseum ruins. There is a tree in the middle of the muck that I didn't get to before that has a time trial ring stump on it. I get it and... near as I can tell, that's everything that's not in Hyrule Castle.

Eighth is... one of three on the bridge leading to the castle. There is a small pot in a little alcove beneath the bridge... had to look around for this one.

Ninth is hard to find. In a spot with 3 in a row, where I already have 2... just around the Observation Room. I eventually realize it's another shooting a stupid Hyrule crest and yoink it.

Tenth is a lilypad circle in a group of waterfalls outside the northeast part of the castle.

That uh... that's all I found on my map.

Two more Koroks. I need to skim back through the entire map and see if I can find them.

Ughh....

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Lanayru makes to be the third place I explored. Had to do that main quest, and all. So there's probably plenty missing here as well. I'd expect a lot missing here, and less in Hyrule Field.

Missing just one to the left of the Wetlands. Bigass tree to the side of the road, has a couple of rocks stacked up near it with a rock korok beneath.

Second is directly west of Zora's Domain, high up on the cliffs. There's a magnesis block puzzle on the side of the mountain.

Third is where the 'first' Lynel is. Also up on the mountains, northeast of Zora's Domain. Bombable rock on the side of mountain, with rock korok beneath.

Fourth is directly east of the East Reservoir Lake, with another magnesis block puzzle on the side of the mountain.

Fifth is directly south from there, on Ja'Abu Ridge. Bombable rock on the side of the mountain.

Sixth is directly south from there... at yet another magnesis block puzzle in the side of the mountain. Finding a LOT of these here.

Seventh is to the southeast, on the west side of Lodrum Headland. There's a large slab that needs stasis to be moved, with a rock korok beneath.

And uh... that's it?

Hopefully I'm missing a lot more from Hyrule Field and Castle orrrrr I'm gonna be lost lol.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

East Necluda, the fifth place I explored. Seems to be a larger area, but more round, which makes it... harder to divide up? Let's begin.

Only four around Mount Lanayru which was... expected, I guess. I thought there'd be a lot here. First is a little northeast from the peak, in a circle of rocks to complete that I can actually see if I zoom in on the map in-game :rollingeyes:

Second is far north side of the mountain, by the riverside. Another circle of rocks I could see from the in-game map...

Third is northwest from the peak, on the ridge that comprises the north wall of Naydra snowfield. It's actually a time trial go-through-the-ring stump.

Fourth is directly east of the peak, right near the shoreline. I must've just not seen this place when flying around (hard to explore this mountain, really), because it's a golf korok.

Fifth is in the Ovli plain north of the tower. In a group of trees. Pot hiding in the trunk.

The next two are just south of the Tower, on the road leading up. Korok six is another pot in a tree trunk.

Seven is a group of three apple trees! I haven't missed like any of these! They're atop a little mound that covers the road.

Next three surround Ebon Mountain. One on the northwest side, it's actually a magnesis block puzzle.

Number nine is a path of teleporting flowers just on the north side of the mountain that leads to the peak.

Tenth is southeast of the mountain, in another circle of rocks that can be seen from the map. I appear to have missed this ledge while floating above it. It blends in very well.

Eleventh appears to be at the Ancient Tech Lab. Not exactly sure where, but I just start climbing. And lo and behold... there's one on the very tip top.

There's a chance I got two other Koroks here before I started counting from 800, so I'll keep that note for now. Will add them if I need to.

Two more areas left! Nineteen Koroks!

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Onto the very SECOND place I ever explored, West Necluda! I might expect to find a lot here, or I might not! There's probably a healthy amount I missed since it was so early, but I don't think this is THE area that's going to destroy me, remaining. But let's find out!

I say this and immediately I'm proven wrong.

First Korok is across the bridge going from Plateau to Necluda area. There's a ton of Koroks here, and I missed just one, which is just a stupid rock on the coast.

Next set of a bunch are north, in this island area just northwest of the tower. Second is... actually a shooting gallery pinwheel I somehow missed on the south of the island, with pots being thrown above the trees.

At this point, I have noticed my Hero's Path has truly reached the 200 hour mark, and is overwriting my progress from the beginning of the game. Looking at this island, it is telling me I've NEVER explored it before.

Third is at the top of this stupid flagpole which I must've given up climbing in early game or something?

Fourth is in the middle of the island atop a hill, with a stump that I did not put the magnesis rock into. Maybe I just missed it the first time, or perhaps the rock just didn't spawn. Yes, it is the game that was wrong, not me.

Fifth is in a forest on the northwest of the island, with a dumb rock in a tree.

Sixth is technically on a border but I'm calling it here. It's on Mount Rozudo, southeast of the stable. There's some trees here, and surprising, another shooting gallery pinwheel I missed. This is from back in my playthrough when I didn't hit every square inch, otherwise I wouldn't have missed this.

Seventh is somehow on Kakariko bridge. Circle of rocks I have to throw a rock off the bridge into. I guess it's... kinda hard to see if you're not looking for it? Actually, I think I tried this one, and just didn't know how to do it, since it requires a little bit of thinking, so I might've just skipped it. Took me four rocks to make it in.

Eighth is... technically not in this area either but I'm counting it. I just follow the river to the east. Near the waterfall, halfway up the cliff, is a set of four trees. One is taller. I climb it to find Korok.

The wild news is this. It appears I missed three more Koroks in the roads leading to and away from Kakariko. Korok no. 9 is a hidden thing to shoot... an eye on one of the arches. It has an arrows sticking near it, but is otherwise an atypical Korok hiding spot.

Number 10 is in the other gulley leading out. It's under a rock on a ledge sticking out high up. I might have missed this because there was another ledge sticking out below it, and then I would've missed this higher one.

Eleventh Korok is also shooting an eye on an arch.

There's a chance there was a twelfth that i got before I started keeping count, but I'm not positive, so I'll just keep that in the back of my mind for now.

Onto East Necluda?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Yeah. I don't think that was bad, but it would've been better if they cut a section or two from preceding areas. Like, one less block for Ellie Day 2, a little less from Abby Day 1, stuff like that.

Was just a little too much.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

The whole After Seattle section had too much. Too many scenes. And then you were jarred out of what seemed to be the endgame sequence by being thrown in Santa Barbara.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I like hearing you talk about Dante

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic