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Johnbobb posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Jensen.

It's a turbo godstomp. Corvo's good, Jensen is like two tiers above him.

so why are they both 4/week?

I take it we need some tier revision

Because Jensen didn't have Mankind Divided then.

Mankind Divided gives him enormous powerups, amongst which are becoming resistant to bullets and faster, so he not only is an awesome assassin but also a top tier frontline fighter. Corvo can't touch what he does there.

EDIT: Also Corvo is arguably a 4 but he's a 4 because he is very nasty to other characters in the 3/week upkeep level. Same as Talion.
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Jensen.

It's a turbo godstomp. Corvo's good, Jensen is like two tiers above him.
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Word of advice swordz, run supports and one damage pointman

the bumrush strat dies a horrible death come camelot so you really really need to start practicing how a 2sup1dps team works to get results

otherwise Gawain will probably stonewall you.
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Raid is for farming gemz tbqh

use it for that, anything else is a bonus

I'm stacking up red rider gems by doing the 3bp for example
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Simoun posted...

I think the point of Giga Slave is that it's a forbidden spell that's really hard to control. That only top tier villains will only ever get to face it head on.

Bingo. I think it says something about that in the vid? It literally can destroy the world if misused and one such case nearly ends everything, if memory doesn't fail me.
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transience posted...

I like to think about it a lot. I just think ExTha having that level of confidence/arrogance after a pretty average Lebron game is nuts. I guess if you just look at the stats and didn't watch the game it seems like he killed the Celtics.

That two-pointer with a minute left to go absolutely was LeBron killing a team in cold blood imoimoimo

there was just no game afterward, dude made a statement there
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The one I really like is the selfie. It's so silly in just the right way that it earns mad props from me. Like it really sells that this is Johnny Cage's daughter, IMO.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Jesus was known for his dunking ability

Much more interesting than anything Vlado could possibly say, have this timeless classic:

http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/09/could-jesus-ball
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banananor posted...

i feel like this is a subject often broached in fiction- how 'evil' should one become in order to prevent a perceived 'bigger evil'?

like.... how many people should one be willing to torture in order to prevent another person from potentially torturing? how many core tenants of your religion are you willing to turn your back on in order to preserve said religion? i put a lot of caveats in here because, in the end, being shitty never actually cures the shittiness.

it just moves it around the plate, like the potatoes and green beans a child doesn't want to eat

The answer's generally 'none'. A moral man does not go out of his way to be shitty. Jack Bauer is not a good man, for example, because torturing someone to make em talk is never acceptable. If you gotta kill someone in self-defense, that's not immoral, but it's still sad and regrettable cause it means you couldn't calm them down without fighting and so on.

And on a different note...

32If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

This might be the single biggest dunk I've ever seen and it's all using 'don't hate those who hate you' moral lessons. Charles Barkley would be proud.
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1bp is for bond points tbqh

It sucks for anything else, no point doing it if your account is leveled
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@Tom_Bombadil just wanted to say thanks for debating Vlado from a religious angle. It's probably really annoying and tiring, but the sources are valuable to me, and taking the time to educate others is something I bet Christ wanted from his flock. Thank you.
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Xiahou Shake posted...

Just came in here to say I laughed at "why we are better" considering Vlado's situation.

I mean we are

look at the nonstop dunking on Vlado that's happened itt

It's just that that 'we' didn't include him
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But one must keep in mind that "Might makes right" is the only truly valid law in the universe.

This quote is a reminder Vlado said this and thus the most hilarious way to dunk on him would be to get him a gamefaqs axe to thus prove his beliefs categorically wrong

And, y'know, it's been kind of a long time coming anyway. Since when is it ok to be fash here? >_>
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yeah, it seems most people feel that way. I just don't. Maybe it's because I have no patience for juvenilia? HxH is like...it's in that ASOIAF vein where a lot of the time, it confuses edge for maturity, and it pisses me off. It takes way more effort and artistry to do mature things without resorting to shock value and apathy-inducing darkness and I dock it a ton of points for going for hamfisted approaches over something actually nuanced and subtle. Nothing in HxH really comes close to the moment where the reveal about how Chapter White is meant to be watched alongside Chapter Black is explained, IMO, as far as depth goes.
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Just because you have high standards doesn't mean you can deliver on them. There's moments where something dark happens and it's definitely planned and clever, but I can think of a bunch of villains who are just a bunch of edgelords and not particularly nuanced in how they work their violence/other disturbing actions. I watched/read YYH from start to finish, so trust me when I say I know Togashi can do better than HxH.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Honestly really shocked we've got HxH naysayers. Never happened before! Not saying you don't have a right or anything, just haven't ever seen anybody talk bad about it that's actually seen it before, lol.

And to clarify, the newer anime over the older one....it's a total invalidation. There's nothing to go back to the old one for, unless you REALLY wish Hisoka still had blue hair like me.

Yeah, I know I'm a minority opinion, but I just have no patience for what HxH tries to do with the level of execution it has. It has very unsatisfying fight endings outside of a single arc Greed Island, it's very grimderp in a way that feels pointlessly edgy instead of actually going somewhere with its darker tone, and I really, really don't like how much people fawn over Gon being omg so speshul when he does nothing interesting or awesome across the entire run except for the one arc I spoilered. On top of this, the only serious personal quality of his that I like is that he's very stubborn and determined, and I otherwise find him to be an extremely unlikable little sociopath. Couple that with a lot of botched plot resolutions and yeah, I really hated most of my watchthrough. It felt like I was wasting hours I would never get back on an unworthy work. I will give it this, though: the anime really manages to have an excellent ending, in spite of failing to get things right a lot of the time otherwise. So if you like the rest, the conclusion has gotta be outstandingly satisfying.

EDIT: It also didn't help that a lot of people sold it to me as an anime with amazing fight scenes and lots of 'clever' combat where the smarter, not stronger character won (in the style of JJBA, for example) and...that isn't really how it works in practice a lot of the time. It's a really frustrating anime for me because it feels like it wants to do something great and fresh but it doesn't know how to do it, and comes off as extremely indecisive and lame as a result. It ends up working out to be the case that when it hews closest to generic shonen archetypes and tropes, it ends up much more entertaining, because it works within that framework with practiced ease that stands in a very stark contrast with the grimderp stuff people praise.
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It really is a great event. Simple, maybe, but very rewarding.
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The newer anime is indeed better, but I would caution against going for it regardless. HxH has...issues sticking the landing. Like serious issues. It also has a very unlikable protagonist, so if either of these things are dealbreakers for you I'd watch something else.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Meow1000 posted...

The first half of the show is much, much better than the second half.

I don't exaggerate when I say that I've literally never seen this opinion.

Though it falters a bit in the last arc proceeding it, the Chimera Ant arc is widely considered one of if not the best arc in the shounen genre.

It's really really bad

HxH is kind of a huge disappointment because it has an amazingly unlikable main character and an indecisive tone and style. It ends up being best when it commits to being a standard shonen because it doesn't have the skills to pull off something more complicated, sadly.
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nipukka posted...

Reconsider your titles. If the game is a smartphone game say it in the title and don't do clickbait on a forum.

How is this clickbait, we've known the next WA was gonna be a mobile game for *years*. This doesn't impact its quality necessarily considering the series' designers and directors have been pushing for it for aeons, either. It all comes down to whether they cab execute on it or not.
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FF4.

Kojiro's rank in MAG is E, the lowest possible value. This means he can't apply lots of magical energy to defend himself. His END is likewise E-ranked. He's not capable of tanking this and then smashing vs so many spellcasters. Without Meteo I take him tho.
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colliding posted...

forgot the vampire and the wolf girl from WA2

WA2 absolutely has the strongest waifu game out of every previous WA, yup! No arguments from me there. I just tried to pick a couple reps from each game and make em varied or I would've been here all day posting WA2 chars.
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voltch posted...

Does the series have a lot of waifus?

(the waifu in the last one is the badass armored monster, not the girl)

Quite a few, yes, for all tastes.
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Title is Wild Arms: Million Memories. Sources say it's a gacha game.

http://www.siliconera.com/2018/04/09/wild-arms-million-memories-announced-smartphones-launches-2018-japan/

https://wild-arms.com/

On one hand, ugh gachas. On the other, yay WA! Here's to hoping it's good.
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Moonsiders 1st
Hopes and Dreams
Dadadadadadadadadada

First match I had to think some about. Second and third matches I knew exactly what I was voting for when I was done with both tunes.
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It's a stomp yeah
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Those are fair arguments kamek, and I can see why you're arguing for 3v3s. I just have the following holdups that I really would like to see some solid countearguments for to convince me:

A) That this format would not make abilities either worthless or brokenly powerful depending on how many people a team has. I've explained this above, but to me weakening abilities like this is a big deal because abilities are one of the four pillars of mercenaries alongside social skills, capacity to pick and sell the right fighters, and strategic acumen. Anything that stands to mostly invalidate one of the things that makes the game so fascinating needs to have a really strong case made for it that it would strengthen what remains, IMO. I'm biased, but my second match vs Boko in the semis was my favorite moment of the game precisely because I combined strategy (buying Mac to squeeze out that last crucial KO on magus), tactically sound ability usage (finding the sequence that injured both Archer and the Lightnings and also robbed boko of the ability to respond and kill me in that round) and social skills (feinting boko the week prior with Surprise Entrance without giving him enough clues to realize just how he could turbofuck me) to achieve something that was greater than just posting hype vids and making sure I grabbed a DMC character for SOLOS factor.

B) That it would not worsen player mental health. Without abilities, players are helpless to control their own destiny, which is a really large part of why mercs causes so much burnout - you need a shitload of mental fortitude to step out week after week to face people you mostly can't convince and endure the uncertainty of not knowing how a match is gonna turn out. Intensifying player strain is one of the things I really want to avoid in whatever version of mercs I can make, to whatever extent I am able.

C) That we wouldn't lose tons of strategic depth from trying to fix the two issues above and others. My first thought about 'how do we fix abilities' for example was 'mercs in a tier straight up cannot participate in other-tier battles whatsoever, period', so ability slave accumulation stops being practical, but this has the side effect of denying matchups that aren't pretty rigidly structured to be 'mostly close', and it has knock-on effects as far as player enjoyment goes because you fuck yourself over really hard if you don't spread out your buys very evenly across tiers. Not enforcing a 'hard' tier split then opens up the issue of paydowns (and the answer I've been tinkering with to the problem of paydowns being SOLOS tier is not tenable in a 3v3 because abilities are overly impactful when you hit a critical mass of them), and brings us back to the problem of having to handle ability spam. Everything has ripple effects like that.

I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but I don't want change for the sake of change. Any changes we make to mercs should lead to a more intelligent design, not a more haphazard one. God knows we got enough of that already. So sell me on how we can avoid these pitfalls pls?
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3v3 emphasizes 'strongest guy wins' tho

Like, when you have three dudes on the field vs another three dudes, having less battleworth is pretty catastrophic. It makes all those instances of "Dante SOLOS" even more acute because there's less and less in the way of a clearly superior merc eating the entire enemy team alive in the eyes of the voters. I get the idea of wanting matches to be easier to argue and more interesting, but the less dudes you have on the field, the less room you have to get creative (because people are particularly unreceptive to gimmicks as numbers shrink - I spent years arguing in MPFC, and my memory is pretty good about how most arguments tended to boil down to 'speedblitz' or 'too tough' and that was that), due to how hard it is to argue against better parameters as the match simplifies. There's probably a better way to do this than doing things that only make raw stats matter more and more.
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Invitation of the Butterfly
The Best is Yet to Come
Main Theme
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DeathChicken posted...

I like the 3v3 idea. On paper it seems like it'd add some interesting strategy when it isn't so easy to cover all of your team bases due to the limited slots.

Other way around. It makes it impossible to stop the other guy from playing his game and makes postroster effects unbelievably broken. The less mercs you can field the easier it gets to field a top tier battlesquad simply because you'll have reserves - and lots of them. Look at my team for an example - you'd have to Remove at minimum four mercs to reduce my team's fighting strength in a 3v3 in mid, at least two and ideally three in high tier where I only had two on-tier mercs (because of Sorey, zerg and kefka), and like, seven KOs in low, without even getting into paydowns. If you want to play 3v3s you'll have to hand out Removal effects like candy and I think nobody actually wants that.
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I'm still a bit upset the Monster Hunter Clone got music in, but Monster Hunter didn't.

Go Shiina knows how to make music. Tetsuya Shibata is not half as crazy (and brilliant) as him.
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GANON1025 posted...

The beginning of events is always the worst, I have no idea what I should be doing

clean out the nodes, then rush the AP10 node for vitruvians so you can buy schools of chaldea, then move on to the 20ap and 40ap zerk nodes for today and repeat for the silver and gold shops. It's kinda super important to get the four shop copies as fast as you possibly can. Once you got those, just farm for mats or to clean ashop out. This guide is pretty good if you need one: https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/89ntu9/da_vinci_the_7_counterfeit_heroic_spirits_event/
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Xiahou Shake posted...

Mac Arrowny posted...

I think Nero is in the Story pool, not the general pool...

Correct, Nero is only available in the story pool or on specific rate-up banners.

Isn't that only if you haven't cleared Septem?
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Confronting Myself
Tokyo - The Trials Grow Complex
Terrible Monster Attacking Crew!
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I think this is more practical than demanding lore every week

I GM for a group of people that come up with shit that makes merx ability bullshit look tame every week

This would not be a problem if people were cool with making mercs more fluffy like that
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And yes any draftmerx would similarly have new builds and shit because we're way overdue for updated versions of previous mercs. That goes without saying. I didn't spend my time building up an ability primer and clarifying what abilities mean to run with old and busted mercs.
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I'm not running a full game before I know the new rules I want to implement work anyways

Assume that if I run M5 it will have a 20 week testrun or so and if the rules are working fine by the end of that players will get a vote to extend it to a full season, and if not it ends there and M5 launches once the rules are fixed
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kevwaffles posted...

For comparison, real musicians pick up Rock Band or Guitar Hero and don't know what the fuck they're doing on their own songs, but I don't doubt they could learn it if they felt like it.

This is my reasoning yeah. Herman Li, guitarist of dragonforce, bombed out of his own song while playing on medium like a minute in. Videogame skills don't transfer to IRL a lot, or viceversa.
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I'd say no. Playing through a game is not going through the events of something that happened to you, and a bunch of bosses have patterns that are not intuitive enough to get them in one go. I do think he could clear it quite quickly though.
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The Devil Went Down to Georgia
Steam Gardens (Wooded Kingdom)
Jaw

Man I think this is the best day so far. Ignition being kind of a pile of nothing aside, everything else is good to great today. Good stuff!
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Dante does not SOLO.
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LastPandemic
Glitch Nerds
Studiopolis Zone Act 1

Very blah second match, but thankfully Studiopolis and LastPandemic rescue the day pretty thoroughly.
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Dante SOLOS.
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Cake wins.

Dante is a junk food guy, I bet he's never baked a dang thing in his life.
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...Man that really is a gamechanger. I don't know a ton about coding but I do know enough to know that even one of those things lets you make huge gains in time efficiency, code cleanliness and optimization. Both at once would pretty much make it stupid to go for an in-house engine for all but the most specific games.
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Seriously? What are they toying with? Cause like, standard engines are already something like 20-25% of the marketshare, minimum. If Unity can take that to 50% or higher that's a massive deal.
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GuessMyUserName posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Unity definitely sees more use by indy games, but not major studios last I checked.

Nintendo, Konami, Square Enix, and Bandai are pretty huge

I think most Nintendo mobile games use Unity, at least their 3 biggest IPs were

Well yes, mobile doesn't need Unreal Engine. I meant consoles/AAA PC releases. But Foolmo's answer covers what I meant - VR/AR is kind of as cutting edge and big money as it gets. It's very possible that Unity becomes the new industry standard, supplanting UE, unless Epic does something new to put Unity Tech on the defensive. It's kind of interesting how engine dominance works on a cycle of decades instead of years - there were about ten years of Id, then ten years of Epic, and now Unity's come along.
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Cider Time
Sunshine Coastline
Road to Droog

Good matches today.
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foolm0r0n posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

More games use the Unreal Engine than pretty much anything else by a fairly wide margin

Unity by a wide margin

Unity definitely sees more use by indy games, but not major studios last I checked. I'm trying to look at when it launched on PC and started seeing widespread use but not finding much.
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th3l3fty posted...

are we ignoring Steam with respect to Valve's influence

No, it's just that when you said it my gut's immediate response was 'but valve makes no games'

Valve is iffy cause they made that steambox or whatever it is, IIRC. I think you could actually count them as console makers? But yeah, if you don't they're number 1 IMO, and Epic the obvious second.
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