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who was in the wrong bathroom?
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make it a million and i will post... DAMN
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Would it be safe to call this blind justice?
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Glass_Phantom posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

Yeah the teacher overstepped her bounds. Especially with children as young as this. She should be fired for not asking for permission.

Nah, she should get teacher of the month. =)

For confusing her students?
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averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

I know someone who is transgender people person.

lern2grammer pls

I know someone who is transgender.

there. that's correct

you can also say "I know a trans person", or replace "person" in that context with "man" or "woman"

What about talking about a group who are transgender?

most adjectives in English don't change from singular to plural (I say "most" because I can't think of any that do, though there might be some special case that I'm not thinking of)

just pluralize the noun described by the adjective (e.g. "trans people", "trans men", "trans women")

There was a gathering of transgenders people
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averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

I know someone who is transgender people person.

lern2grammer pls

I know someone who is transgender.

there. that's correct

you can also say "I know a trans person", or replace "person" in that context with "man" or "woman"

What about talking about a group who are transgender?
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averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

I know someone who is transgender people person.

lern2grammer pls

I know someone who is transgender.
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averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

ok I know there are bigger problems with trans acceptance, but can people not use "transgenderism"? that implies transgender people are subscribing to some sort of ideology

and maybe, while you're at it, don't use "transgender" as a noun - it's like referring to black people as "the blacks". dehumanizing to reduce people to one aspect of their identity

It is official. Using transgender while referring to transgender people is transphobic

read the last sentence of the post again

What word do you suggest when talking about transgenders?

try "transgender people"

I know someone who is transgender people

reread the post. "transgender" is an adjective, not a noun

I know someone who is transgender people person.
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averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

ok I know there are bigger problems with trans acceptance, but can people not use "transgenderism"? that implies transgender people are subscribing to some sort of ideology

and maybe, while you're at it, don't use "transgender" as a noun - it's like referring to black people as "the blacks". dehumanizing to reduce people to one aspect of their identity

It is official. Using transgender while referring to transgender people is transphobic

read the last sentence of the post again

What word do you suggest when talking about transgenders?

try "transgender people"

I know someone who is transgender people

reread the post. "transgender" is an adjective, not a noun

I know someone. They are transgender people.
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averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

ok I know there are bigger problems with trans acceptance, but can people not use "transgenderism"? that implies transgender people are subscribing to some sort of ideology

and maybe, while you're at it, don't use "transgender" as a noun - it's like referring to black people as "the blacks". dehumanizing to reduce people to one aspect of their identity

It is official. Using transgender while referring to transgender people is transphobic

read the last sentence of the post again

What word do you suggest when talking about transgenders?

try "transgender people"

I know someone who is transgender people
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next time go to five guys
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Twin3Turbo posted...

What are the chances he sues for damages?

They should sue him.
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Bloodychess posted...

VandorLee posted...

Id charge him as an adult.

Same, two more years as a minor isn't going to magically make him grow up

agreed
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Dustin1280 posted...

Nice, wish the dude was thrashed more, they didn't beat him enough.

Tryhaptaward posted...

Thug deserves worse

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averagejoel posted...

Medz2017 posted...

averagejoel posted...

ok I know there are bigger problems with trans acceptance, but can people not use "transgenderism"? that implies transgender people are subscribing to some sort of ideology

and maybe, while you're at it, don't use "transgender" as a noun - it's like referring to black people as "the blacks". dehumanizing to reduce people to one aspect of their identity

It is official. Using transgender while referring to transgender people is transphobic

read the last sentence of the post again

What word do you suggest when talking about transgenders?
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http://nypost.com/2017/08/23/teen-beats-up-his-teacher-in-front-of-the-class/
Crazy
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Zikten posted...

averagejoel posted...

my daughter, Pumice, says she worries that adults often pretend their kids said things in order to add an emotional appeal to otherwise nonexistent points

It's true. Remember Columbine? The girl in the library that was asked if she believed in God and said yes and then was shot? Actual surviving witnesses say that never happened

Happens all the time. This was not a parent however the friend of Michael Brown said Michael was on his knees with his hands up
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averagejoel posted...

ok I know there are bigger problems with trans acceptance, but can people not use "transgenderism"? that implies transgender people are subscribing to some sort of ideology

and maybe, while you're at it, don't use "transgender" as a noun - it's like referring to black people as "the blacks". dehumanizing to reduce people to one aspect of their identity

It is official. Using transgender while referring to transgender people is transphobic
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Sylph posted...

Medz2017 posted...

If they will not have a problem why teach it at such a young age?

Oh that one is easy. It is because that openness and willingness to accept and think about things is a thing that children lose as they get older through indoctrination. If you don't expose your children to things when they are young enough to form their own ideas about it, then the only ideas they end up having are the ones taught to them.

Sex included?
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Sylph posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Oh fuck off. I actually bothered to read the study and educate myself on the subject, rather than just accept "my side's" arguments as doctrine. Don't pull that helping children bullshit. You know what helps? A study (small sample size) was done that showed that schizophrenia medication completely removed trans' individuals desire to be the opposite sex within a few days. Why aren't we funding a larger study to see if the results can be generalized? With a 40% suicide rate, that may be by far the best way to save lives.

It's not dislike of the subject. I have no problem admitting 0.3% of the population is trans, and that's its a real condition. What I DO dislike is being told it's normal, we should celebrate it, and rather than continue to research treatment methods we should just assume the suicide rate is due entirely to social stigma (even though it doesn't go down in passing individuals) and will "go away" if we all believe hard enough. I'm sick of being told the left is the party of science while at the same time being told by the same people that we should make sweeping changes as a society when the science isn't there.

I'm not accepting a side's arguments as my own. I made my own. I am a trans woman, and I went through life as a child that knew they wanted to transition from a young age. I know you can put up study after study of bullshit for your arguments.

The world had to go through the same adventures when it was trying to prove that the world was not flat, or that the universe didn't revolve around it. Do you know how many random experts popped up defending those views? It took centuries for no reason. And you know what, that is what is happening now.

Being trans is not inherently damaging. It doesn't disable you, and it doesn't have to reduce your quality of life. Any problems that arise are almost entirely caused by knee jerk reactions by ideologies that are intolerant of deviation from their viewpoints. Children don't hate. Hate is taught. Those children wouldn't have any problem with someone changing gender, I know because I was in elementary school and I had no trouble doing that same thing even without the teacher's help.

If they will not have a problem why teach it at such a young age?
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Medz2017 posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Some of yall are fucking insane

Who and why?

Anyone and everyone crying about "indoctrination" or comparing this to ISIS should never breed

It is indoctrination to teach kindergartners about transgenderism.

The loony left

Is it indoctrination to force your kids to go to church?

No.

Is it indoctrination to force your kids to go to school?
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Hop103 posted...

Horus_Leftfield posted...

Earlier you teach kids not to hate the better

This is not a lesson on racism or sexism, we're talking about an issue that will cause problems if taught about to those who are too young.

Kids hate algebra. Should it be taught in kindergarten?
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Zeeak4444 posted...

Sayoria posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Sayoria posted...

How is bringing awareness promoting it?

There's a difference between "transgenderism is a thing some people are" and "transgenderism is a mental disorder that effects roughly 0.3% of the population"

That's still not forcing dresses onto boys and buzzcuts onto girls. It's still a true fact and the statistical approach wouldn't work for youth of that age.

I think the argument is that most things don't work at that age...

The original idea was should the teacher get fired? But with any great discussion it can get into deeper thoughts.
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RebelElite791 posted...

Some of yall are fucking insane

Who and why?
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Sayoria posted...

Callixtus posted...

Sayoria posted...

Callixtus posted...

Society can and should work against promoting transgenderism.

And you know what would happen? More violence towards us. Your comment here is probably the worst idea I've ever heard. We don't choose to be who we are. We just are. Having society against us does nothing but encourages violence and suicide. Just accept us. Why is this so fucking hard?

Another strawman argument.

I've already said we should tolerate transgenderism, and love transgender people. But we should not be promoting it. I know this is too subtle a point for many people on CE to understand.

We should punish bullies and arrest people who harass or assault transgender people, and ultimately preach a message of tolerance. That is as far as I go. I do not go as far as waving a rainbow flag and calling anyone who doesn't want their child exposed to left wing cultural Marxism a bigot. It is not bigoted to not want your child to suffer from what I believe is a disorder nor to wish to see a disorder promoted.

How is bringing awareness promoting it?

Anything can be promoted by bringing awareness. I can bring awareness to a charity by telling you about it and promote it by asking you to donate to said charity.
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This is like asking why black pope Iseem neighborhoods have numerous shootings every week.
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s0nicfan posted...

The Deadpool posted...

s0nicfan posted...

The problem is that "girl brain in a boy body" line, since we're talking about "settled science", is objectively false. fMRI studies were done (I think mayo clinic) where they showed they can clearly differentiate between a male and female brain in fMRI scans, but transperson's brains did not map to the brain patterns of their claimed gender.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/

What?

You should check out the actual study and not the various articles trying to spin the results. The study found that the trans brains were in fact different than the average for their birth sex, but still NOT a match for the opposite sex. They took "different from their birth sex" and spun it as "a trans person has the brain of the other sex. Settled science" and ran with it.

Teaching facts not opinions shoulds like a good idea.
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KStateKing17 posted...

I think so. You specifically targeted someone because of their skin or orientation. That seems somewhere right under premeditated murder.

What if two guys got into a fight and the one died even though he did not premeditate that out come. He just wanted to give him a savage beating.
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Someone steals my car I would hate it. Would they get charged for a hate crime?
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APM posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

APM posted...

But gay men can't produce breast milk

Yeah they can. There is gynomastia and there is also a treatment used to induce lactation in women that also works on men. There was a bit on Oprah about a transwoman who was able to breastfeed a child from her lesbian wife that way.

What the fuck? Is the transwomen the biological "father"?

up is down down is up.
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_wwKd_ posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

no not really, could you clarify?

Gay Dude walking around all sexy like gives other Gay Dudes Gay Boners.

I want justice for straight boners and allow women to walk around topless too.

that is a good point however the topless guy does not have to be gay for a gay guy to have blood rush to his penis.
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lightwarrior78 posted...

You're halfway there. Having a shit leader in office, financial uncertainty, even terrorism are facts of life for a lot of the world. The current generation wasn't raised to deal with or expect hardship because parents tried to limit their exposure to such things. Now reality hits and they're overwhelmed and unprepared for a world where their guardians don't or can't just fix the problem for them. They're traumatized because some of this is the first real hardship they've faced, if you can even call some of it hardship and not inconvenience.

who is the shit leader?
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s0nicfan posted...

The problem is that "girl brain in a boy body" line, since we're talking about "settled science", is objectively false. fMRI studies were done (I think mayo clinic) where they showed they can clearly differentiate between a male and female brain in fMRI scans, but transperson's brains did not map to the brain patterns of their claimed gender.

Would it be appropriate to teach that in Kindergarten?
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The greatest generation went through more and handled life better.
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APM posted...

But gay men can't produce breast milk

what if they identify as a woman?
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would it be fair to teach both XY is boy and XX is girl as well?
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Callixtus posted...

Caption from the book the teacher read to the students:

"I have a girl brain but a boy body. This is called transgender. I was born this way!"

Again, that is called promotion.

Leave it up to the parents to brainwash
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Tmk posted...

I appreciate the opposing side so proudly wearing their ineptitude at arguing their stance on their sleeve.

I appreciate both sides of the debate. Good discussion.
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easier for white people to be transracial
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Tmk posted...

Well, I think things wrapped up fairly well.

so she should get fired?
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Sylph posted...

Medz2017 posted...

Should sex ed be taught in kindergarten because young kids do not understand it?

Oh. Are you confused on how to make a new topic to ask new things? That's weird, you managed to make this topic. Want me to make one for you and link you to it so you can get your question answered?

sure
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Tmk posted...

Medz2017 posted...

Should sex ed be taught in kindergarten because young kids do not understand it?

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75700605/885310511

a link to this topic should be taught in schools?
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Tmk posted...

So now that the sex ed thing failed, now it's about ninja. Next it'll be the tried and stupid "attack helicopter" angle I'm sure.

Nothing screams "I am grossly uninformed about transgender topics and nothing I say is worth anything on such matters" quite like that stuff.

Should sex ed be taught in kindergarten because young kids do not understand it?
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SageHarpuia posted...

Sylph posted...

Medz2017 posted...

Medussa posted...

and if we needed any more proof of TCs intentions, there it is.

Just like transgender lessons ninja lessons should not be taught to kindergartens in public schools.

They wouldn't have to be if parents actually did parenting.

"Son, you were born with a katana, you are and always will be a ninja."

I dont wanna be a ninja
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Medussa posted...

and if we needed any more proof of TCs intentions, there it is.

Just like transgender lessons ninja lessons should not be taught to kindergartens in public schools.
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LordMarshal posted...

My daughter wants to be a ninja. Classes will be expensive but shell be a badass. Il start her transition.

why do they not teach it in schools? that is transninja
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So she can get into black only graduations and meetings
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kindergarteners do not understand sex. Teach them sex?
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Sir Will posted...

Callixtus posted...

I choose to tie the definition of a person's gender to something concrete, ie the combination of chromosomes and anatomical expressions

That's not what gender is. That's biological sex. And even then those don't always align with strict male/female.

why not teach both?
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Zeeak4444 posted...

Tmk posted...

Zeeak4444 posted...

ITP children aren't sexually abused or coceried into things that are wrong.

They also don't report the creepy uncle because they don't know what even happened since they know nothing about sex.

See the stupidity?

Well I read your post so yes.

Medz2017 posted...

are transracials at odds with reality?

Gonna quote this as well because what I'm about to say applies equally to both: a clear sign you lost the argument, is when you try to argue about other things. "WELL WHAT ABOUT THIS"

Yeah no. You lost the argument about transgender, and are trying to act like "well if I argue about this other stuff, maybe I can come back ahead!"

Make arguments about why it's not okay for kids to learn about transgender people. Don't scatterbrain around throwing stuff at a wall until something sticks.

Good, I'm glad you admitted you now realize how stupid your comment about sex ed not being important to children was.

I agree, it was really fucking stupid to assume children have a greater chance of dealing with a transgender than dealing with abuse.

I just asked him what he thought...
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