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Speaking of which I already said I thought that would town flip too.

So many town should just kill less people I think are going to flip town?

Uh you were super high on lynching Corrik and Red so

Also with me confirmed to have stopped the kill.

We now have a cop the scumteam knew wouldn't be protected who both isn't dead and claimed a scan on the doctor who stopped the kill.

This seriously is not hard to follow.

(And I'm including night 3 when he "scanned" the dead guy no one in the game scumread)

But anyway. If we don't hit scum today, tomorrow is lylo if the game isn't outright over.

Meaning Ulti's scan can't be trusted anyway.

Meaning Ulti has gotten away with making 0 scans of any value to town since he claimed.

TotallyNotMI posted...

I think it's ctes/Ulti with one of Ben/FD as third party.

FD giving the same guy an item again is a thing though

Who has that guy targeted

changmas posted...

I just finished my lunch and am back to being slammed at work with back to back meetings most of the afternoon. Ill digest this flip over the afternoon and see what i come up with by tonight.

initial thought is probably that Ben is flying more under the radar than wed want him to

Ben is in the POE is basically every scenario sooo

UltimaterializerX posted...

Wait mislynching me ends the game?

PLEASE be town and mislynch me. Oh man. Thats the funniest outcome.

You have the ability to stop a vote.

3/7 with that ability is gg for town.

And like I said, blocking the IGCD kill ultimately did nothing but get Death shot and leave us still in mylo.

TotallyNotMI posted...

We should all be nice guys, come on. Stop bickering and just lynch scum, please.

I am.

But yeah, I'm done playing nice.

And if Kirby doesn't like it he can blindly vote you like the thoughtless sheep he is and fuck off.

TotallyNotMI posted...

Honestly kirby with how wrong you have been here you don't really have the ground to be mad right now

It's funny that both Ulti and Kirby seem to be blaming me for being right about Red and Death.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Good. No credibility for you ever again.

All you guys need is a mislynch today and you win so.

You can bash my credibility all you like.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Nope. You have been playing like garbage for long enough and Im going back to bullying people into the correct plays since winning is objectively more fun for all involved than being nice in the face of repeated atrocious play. Absolute nonsense.

Yeah because correctly calling two consecutive town flips is "playing like garbage".

I am confirmed town. You and Ctes are scum. Good luck.

I started the day believing I blocked that kill though. Ulti faking a wasted scan on me all but confirmed it.

Kirby321 posted...

So that confirms Blade blocked the IGCD kill. Kinda bummed I didn't stop a kill, but now we have crucial information to work from.

Blade is confirmed. IGCD is confirmed. I still think Ben and Ctes are clean, but sure, I'll concede that's not an airtight argument.

I'm interested to hear what FD and chang make of this flip. They haven't had much of a chance to weigh in, and now that Death has flipped, I want to know where their head spaces are at.

Ulti and Ctes are the only acceptable lynches today and frankly I don't care how much you try to force them both to be town.

UltimaterializerX posted...

lmao

You are the last guy any of us are listening to all game now. Goodbye.

You were really flustered when I claimed doctor who never protected you and it's thrown you off ever since.

Like I'm just going to be clear.

I am never lynching anyone who is not one of you. There is no argument, no rationalization anyone can present that will get me off of you two today.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Disallowed and theater.

We are not killing another player I scanned innocent before I die. Ive more than earned it at this point.

The only allowable lynches are you and Ctes.

Called the Red townflip yesterday. Called the Death townflip today. Ulti faked a scan on me because I saved IGCD and he knew it'd come out.

Lynch Ctes, confirm Ulti scum, lynch Ulti tomorrow.

Easy gameplan.

TotallyNotMI posted...

maybe at some point you guys will start to fucking listen to me

No, now Kirby just blindly lynches you instead because according to him EVERY OTHER PLAYER IN THE GAME is confirmed town.

And yes, I prewrote that post.

Now can we kill Ulti and Ctes already?

##Unvote
##Vote: Ctes

Now that your Town Doctor has called two towns flips in a row let's actually get rid of a scum now k

Kirby321 posted...

Okay then you're a bad sport. Just shut up.

Play a better game of Mafia and maybe I will.

htaeD posted...

And Kirby at the very least consider Ctes and Ben faking discussing IGDC being protectef

If you're town and scum can vote block then it actually changed nothing and stopping the kill only served to frame you for it.

changmas posted...

Trust yourself IGCD and believe in the heart of the cards

I play Some Bullshit

Our monsters are swapped for the remaining turn for no fucking reason!

Kirby321 posted...

If IGCD shot you out of spite, I would not blame him. What a completely unnecessary insult.

IGCD will freely tell you that himself.

And has numerous times in the past.

4/19 would already be a "low scum" game.

IGCD doesn't believe in himself that's why he sheeps so much.

I mean, that's one thing Ulti and I agree on. A 3/19 scumteam should've revolted immediately.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Fuck, I knew I shouldn't have announced it. Too many people trying to pull me in multiple directions and I want to have confidence in everyone but don't have confidence in anyone lol

This looks like a job for random.org!!?!?!!?!

htaeD posted...

Again we may not have the numbers.

Then again why would scumctes reveal a votelock power so early

Usually when scum reveals a power like that early they use it on other scum.

Ulti did claim targeting Ctes night 1.

Kirby321 posted...

No. There's a possibility there's only one scum left, given how insanely powerful Knightz and Wallz both were.

The only way my foundation gets broken is if the game continues even after Death and MI are flipped. That is the only condition. I'm done discussing this any further until IGCD makes his shot.

No. 3 scum in 19 is not happening.

Jets are going to get smoked and the immediate panic will be hilarious.

Even if MI flips scum the fact it doesn't change the fact that Death flipping town would shatter the entire foundation you've built your reads on.

Oh and if Death flips scum I just blow MI up if that wasn't obvious enough.

I wouldn't say Death is going particularly hard.

But yeah there is a 0% chance I am ever voting anyone but Ulti or Ctes today if Death is shot and flips town.

Kirby321 posted...

You don't even know if there's three scum members left. You don't even know if there's two left!

Don't attack me when you're making assumptions that you have absolutely zero way to confirm. I'm working based off of information I have right now to estimate the best possible lynch, not trying to solve the entire damn game by making assumptions I can't possibly prove right now.

There has to be at minimum two scum left.

You can't even name two scum if Death flips town because you're town locking everyone.

You should be worried about that.

ctesjbuvf posted...

His other scans are straight up being suggested here

Say Death and MI are both town.

Shoot Death lynch MI and you find yourself with either the game already over because of a vote blocker or in Lylo with no ability to trust his scan result.

Scanning me last night would've been an egregious punt.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Its never ever a waste to scan rule 1 types.

You could try "scanning" anyone who might be lynched instead.

TotallyNotMI posted...

idk Ulti seems so blatantly scum to me that I just don't get any of the hesitation on him.

This happens every game Ulti does this in. The sheep tier players eat it all up.

But yes when Ulti claimed that wasted scan on me my immediate impression was I blocked the kill and Ulti was basically admitting to me that I did.

Not my fault Ulti's play all game has resembled his scum playbook and he'd have to be punting to actually be cop.

"lol"

Summary reminder:

If Death flips town it's 3 scum in Ulti/Ctes/Ben/MI (and if game is still.going kill Chang in final)

If Death flips scum it's 2 scum in Ulti/FD/Ben/MI (and if game is still going kill Chang in final)

Basically Kirby if Death flips town you have at minimum hard town confirmed two scum members and possibly all three.

That isn't a "bridge to cross later", that should be immediate alarm bells.

TotallyNotMI posted...

I truly believe an Ulti shot will implicate Ctes and let us lynch him today too. Two scum in one day.

A Ctes shot could similarly implicate Ulti though.

Ctes is arguably better just because Ulti is on a cop claim and has to claim a scan that actually matters eventually.

Kirby321 posted...

You answered your own question. If Death flips town, my PoE says it's MI, then, because everyone else would have a town case for them except for MI.

What happens afterward? We'll cross that bridge once we actually see some damn flips first. Don't tell me I don't have a plan when I very clearly stated how my reads will be affected by Death's flip.

No, you don't cross that bridge first.

You have no plan. You have 7 hard confirmed town players and MI.

htaeD posted...

Id be concerned if Kirby being scum didnt also mean town is way too weak

There's no way scum does what he does on day 2.

That's really all he has going for him.

Especially since we already went over the logic that Kirby can't confirm scum with his roleblock so long as I am alive, which makes even more of his potential town clears asinine.