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TopicI've got a month before I enlist in the IDF
OniRonin
12/30/18 8:36:21 PM
#47
blue_composer posted...
Idk... during college there was this rise of anti israel groups on campuses across the us which were run by students that either supported Hamas and repeated their rhetoric or refused to denounce Hamas as a terrorist organization


By ruling class I mean people who wield power (i.e. elected office or massive amounts of money) or are in the socioeconomic class that makes them likely to wield power in the future. I don't think looking at college campuses is a good way to get a sense of the overall american public or the rulingclass.

Virtually every elected official supports israel, to the point that it made news that a house CANDIDATE didn't. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/07/us/politics/democrats-israel-palestinians.html

Among "normal" people, I think most of them have very hazy views of the conflict overall but generally support israel. It is becoming more common to reject israel on the far left, though. For example the DSA vote on joining BDS recently

I thought this was interesting - it would be cool to see something from the last year
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/23/5-facts-about-how-americans-view-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/

Did you know a lot of Israelis make homemade pizza/toast (toast here is anything with cheese and toast) with yellow cheese and ketchup? First time I saw it I was really grossed out.... I still am


This does sound gross. I don't eat cheese at all, but if I did I certainly wouldn't eat it like that
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Topicmy user level has changed to veteran
OniRonin
12/30/18 8:16:39 PM
#16
LinkPizza posted...
OniRonin posted...
LinkPizza posted...
OniRonin posted...
Icon of what? I'll tell you what. Icon of sloth! go outside some more, cow-boy.

What does this even mean?


I'll tell you what it means! Log off your video game and go play some B-ball, buddy!

I dont like basketball. I play other sports. It you act like I dont do anything active. It seems weird that you would assume that. But, if you do, youd be wrong...

You know what they say....

When I make an assumption, I make an ass out of u n mi pot
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TopicI've got a month before I enlist in the IDF
OniRonin
12/30/18 8:10:00 PM
#44
blue_composer posted...
Also also this article just came up on my fb and if you read past the biased wording you can see how conflicted the conflict gets just within the world of journalism
https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/12/after-massive-investigation-ny-times-concludes-israel-did-not-intentionally-shoot-medic-rouzan-al-najjar/


Yeah, I think a lot of journalism about israel from the US and the UK uses the topic as a proxy war for or against conservative ideas in our own politics, and it ends up feeling really muddled because of it. Like in the UK now, conservative journalists want to defend everything israel does in order to paint Corbyn as an antisemite for opposing israel's policies.

Sorry if I played a role in keeping you up! It's cool that you're willing to talk about it.
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TopicI've got a month before I enlist in the IDF
OniRonin
12/30/18 8:02:40 PM
#43
And yes it is possible for both sides to have fault but more often than not (especially being a moderate liberal) I only ever see one side getting the majority of the blame and refusing to see that one side is a terrorist group that haven't had elections in so long.

If somebody told me they were going to join Hamas, I would argue with them too. I live in the US, so I don't usually encounter a lot of people who are pro-hamas. It's much more common here for somebody to be labeled as a Hamas supporter for criticizing Israel than for somebody to genuinely support the methods of Hamas. On the other hand, our entire ruling class is rabidly pro-israel, so I often have cause to argue with people who defend the IDF and other israeli policies
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Topicmy user level has changed to veteran
OniRonin
12/30/18 5:58:32 PM
#13
K3nnyan posted...
My user level changed a little over a month ago..

Who appointed you the keeper of c? I can keep c just fine. However I would choose to keep it in miles per hour because I am an american
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Topicmy user level has changed to veteran
OniRonin
12/30/18 5:55:59 PM
#12
LinkPizza posted...
OniRonin posted...
Icon of what? I'll tell you what. Icon of sloth! go outside some more, cow-boy.

What does this even mean?


I'll tell you what it means! Log off your video game and go play some B-ball, buddy!
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Topicmy user level has changed to veteran
OniRonin
12/30/18 5:21:55 PM
#9
Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
I'm an Ancient... get off my lawn!

go fall off a cliff you old boomer
slacker03150 posted...
I year and a half away from ?. I don't know if I actually want that or not. I think I would feel bad with how much of my life I have wasted coming back here.

just get banned alot like me

StoneRevolver posted...
I hit Icon recently and it's more embarrassing than anything else.

just get banned alot like me
LinkPizza posted...
Im Icon. About a year away from being Idol. I would probably be much higher if I:

1.) Had made an account when I first joined. I didnt make one each time I visited. Mostly because I felt I wouldnt visit that much. But kept coming back for years without an account.

2.) Actually went to the boards. I went every once in a while before and after joining. But when I did a while ago, it always seemed pretty toxic and mean in most boards I went to. So, I figured there was no point at the time...

Icon of what? I'll tell you what. Icon of sloth! go outside some more, cow-boy.
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TopicI've got a month before I enlist in the IDF
OniRonin
12/30/18 5:20:03 PM
#37
blue_composer posted...
Actually one last thing

I know no matter what I post I will most likely get you to change your mind in the slightest

And that's about it

it's defintely possible to change my mind - I think before I started talking to you here I underestimated the steps IDF took to reduce casulaties in many situations. If you accept their assumption that these bombings are necessary, their standard procedures take more steps than I thought to reduce deaths
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TopicI've got a month before I enlist in the IDF
OniRonin
12/30/18 5:16:41 PM
#36
blue_composer posted...
Mis read who was quoting
Anyway
I live in ashkelon a bit north of Gaza
My parents were born here
Both my grandmothers were born here
One side goes further than that
The other was persecuted in Turkey and Yemen just because they were were jewish, the Yemen side my great grandfather fled with his 2 siblings leaving behind the rest of the family
Do you know what the jewish population of Yemen is today?
Palestinians aren't inherently bad people, but when their leaders and education portray jews (not even just Israelis)as a group that needs to be annihilated, then I dont know what to tell you


not interested in whataboutism. its possible for both sides of a conflict to be wrong
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TopicI've got a month before I enlist in the IDF
OniRonin
12/30/18 5:15:30 PM
#35
blue_composer posted...
You dont have to read the article just watch the video
https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-caught-at-gaza-fence-hamas-plans-riots-so-people-wont-revolt/
If I had all day I'd link you to several more but it's nearly midnight here


IDF is known to misleadingly edit videos so I take this with a grain of salt. Even if it is true, I don't really see the relevance though - yes, hamas is a shitty government. I'm not disputing that by condeming the IDF


https://www.algemeiner.com/2018/11/16/telegraph-reporter-reveals-lengths-israel-goes-to-in-effort-to-avoid-harming-palestinian-civilians-in-gaza-airstrikes//


This is a good source. Most of the time people link me to super pro-israel stuff when I ask about this, loI

I don't dispute that there are situations where the IDF takes steps to reduce casualties. There are many other situations where Israel shows a callous disregard for the lives of palestinians. Looking at sources like human rights watch, amnesty international, and UN reports the overall picture I get is one where IDF tactics (e.g. how they go about bombing civilian areas) reduce casualties, but IDF strategy (e.g. their willingness to bomb civilian areas with overwhelming force) rests on an assumption of palestinian inferiority - a willingness to trade any number of palestinian lives for a minute increase in israeli security.

That's not even getting into the other issues with israeli human rights violations in gaza - denying visas and blockading medicine. I'm not sure if you disagree with me on those though

There was controversy over the soldier that killed a neutralized terrorist
There is always controversy about the steps the government chooses to protect or not to protect us
And most importantly there was even backlash and investigations into the video you posted


I agree that there was controversy. As I said before, I don't think that washes the government and its people's hands of guilt.


You dont live here so all you see is one sided reporting


It's true that I don't live here, but I hope I don't only see one-sided reporting. I read a lot of news. Do you have a journalist/newspaper/whatever about israel you recommend?

It might sound like deflecting but if you really cared about Palestinians you should start by taking a look at how they're treated by their own government as well as looking into how they're treated in surrounding Arab countries


The implication that I must be uneducated about the atrocities committed by Hamas because I speak out against israel's atrocities is a bit strange - it really doesn't occur that I might both understand and disapprove of Hamas's actions AND disapprove of responding with violence in kind?
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TopicI've got a month before I enlist in the IDF
OniRonin
12/30/18 4:46:54 PM
#32
minervo posted...

Unless you too live in Israel, everything she says holds sway over anything you claim.


Unless you lived in Nazi Germany, everything an SS soldier says about it holds sway over anything you claim.
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Topicmy user level has changed to veteran
OniRonin
12/30/18 3:23:31 PM
#3
veterans are better than elites because we can access VA benefits,,,
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TopicI've got a month before I enlist in the IDF
OniRonin
12/30/18 3:19:46 PM
#29
blue_composer posted...
1. Hamas literally rounds up the majority of these people that look the most vulnerable and puts them in dangerous situations


Do you have a source for this. Amnesty international and most other (comparatively) nonpartisan sources disagree that hamas does this -- they DO fire rockets from civilian neighborhoods, but that's different from what you're claiming

2. Israel goes out of it's way most times to avoid them( (innocent people that were put there) also think about it, if we really were as evil and causing genocide like people think why hasn't it happened?and why has their population gone up?)

Do you have a source for this. (not haaretz or similar israeli propaganda)

3. When something does happen there are investigations and controversies and debates on the israeli side and among Israelis all over


I don't think controversy over killing civilians really erases culpability. for example, I think american citizens should be considered culpable for america's history of bombign civilians and civilian infrastructure in the middle east, supporting antidemocratic coups in south america, etc. Feeling bad abotu it doesn't excuse you from supporting it

celebrates death


It's cool that you are against celebrating death. I wish more people in the IDF believed that!

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TopicI've got a month before I enlist in the IDF
OniRonin
12/30/18 2:58:21 PM
#28
also, celeste is really good if you haven't played it yet
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TopicI've got a month before I enlist in the IDF
OniRonin
12/30/18 2:57:45 PM
#27
Topicmy user level has changed to veteran
OniRonin
12/30/18 2:56:56 PM
#1
get out of my way dinguses, hardcore gaming veteran coming thru
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TopicFunny how republicans eat animals every day, and yet...
OniRonin
12/05/18 8:11:45 PM
#4
TopicFunny how republicans eat animals every day, and yet...
OniRonin
12/05/18 3:12:00 PM
#3
TopicFunny how republicans eat animals every day, and yet...
OniRonin
12/05/18 1:52:36 PM
#1
somehow I am a "psychopath" for wanting to eat george bush's service dog??
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OniRonin
11/25/18 5:15:59 PM
#14
Topicyoung educated canadian-born females videos
OniRonin
11/25/18 11:47:46 AM
#12
Topicyoung educated canadian-born females videos
OniRonin
11/25/18 10:07:43 AM
#9
TopicThe multiverse contains 0 bits of information.
OniRonin
11/25/18 10:06:47 AM
#1
The superstructure is fully determined by mathematics.
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Topicyoung educated canadian-born females videos
OniRonin
11/24/18 1:24:33 PM
#6
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OniRonin
11/24/18 11:03:31 AM
#2
Topicyoung educated canadian-born females videos
OniRonin
11/24/18 8:26:54 AM
#1
TopicI have two hour long Skype job interviews this week
OniRonin
11/03/18 4:09:49 PM
#11
TopicI'm here to nicturate and post content, and I'm all out of content
OniRonin
11/03/18 4:06:51 PM
#6
The serial killer role in mafia games is stupid and should be removed. It's impossible to win as the serial killer, which removes the will to power and promotes player attritition.

Ted Kaczynski made some excellent points in his manifesto. Bombing people is a terrible way to go about it and I do not condone it, but technology really ruins people's ability to control their environments as individuals instead of being totally dependent on society, and that creates a lot of the lack of self-fullfilment in the world today.

Anders Breivek deserves a PS3 and games better than Rayman Revolution.
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TopicI'm here to nicturate and post content, and I'm all out of content
OniRonin
11/03/18 12:48:20 PM
#4
Hi LustyBustyLaura, my adderall is kicking in and I need to argue with somebody about a serial killer or a politician. Please pick one and i will make a controversial statement about them
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TopicI'm here to nicturate and post content, and I'm all out of content
OniRonin
11/03/18 12:45:39 PM
#2
This is malcontent. That's latin for "bad content."
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TopicI'm here to nicturate and post content, and I'm all out of content
OniRonin
11/03/18 12:45:23 PM
#1
I'm here to chew ass and create content, and I'm all out of contents.
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TopicI've Been Spending My $1.8 Million Inheritance on Prostitutes
OniRonin
10/25/18 10:12:12 PM
#7
WastelandCowboy posted...
Your money; your choice.

this is descriptively true but its a questionable normative statement
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TopicI've Been Spending My $1.8 Million Inheritance on Prostitutes
OniRonin
10/25/18 10:11:52 PM
#6
Krazy_Kirby posted...
is that one $10,000?
ten $1,000?
twenty $500?

it varies from month to month
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TopicI've Been Spending My $1.8 Million Inheritance on Prostitutes
OniRonin
10/25/18 9:48:34 PM
#1
TopicLol, Elizabeth Warren
OniRonin
10/15/18 3:28:10 PM
#33
wolfy42 posted...
Considering the fact she didn't just bring out her relative and say SEE, it means she was basing her ancestry on someone that was no longer alive, and would automatically mean it was probably going to be less then 1/64th anyway.


yeah, she was basing it on her family's oral history whcih said the ancestor was 5 generations back. pretty close to the 6-10 generations that the ancestry report lists. i don't understand what the conservative meme dues think happened here. like do they think elizabeth warren made it up and just happened to get lucky, or tyhat her family actually had oral history that went back 10 generations and she shortened it, or what
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TopicLol, Elizabeth Warren
OniRonin
10/15/18 3:25:29 PM
#31
Jen0125 posted...
OniRonin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
He wasn't right. She has a Native American ancestor which is literally all she ever claimed.

She's never claimed to be any specific percentage Native American. She's not the one who's made a huge to-do about her having a Native American ancestor. That's all been the Republicans.

She also listed herself as native american in a law school directory. That's a totally reasonable thing to do even with an ancestor 5 generations back like what she believed at the time. it'd seem kind of odd/maybe misleading to me with an ancestor 10 generations back, but that's the minimum of what the ancestry test claims


Who cares if she did that? It's a directory. It's got no meaning whatsoever.


identifying as a minority group in that context can make it easier to get a job. just listing yourself as black when you don't identify as black for example, would seem dishonest to me. I don't think e-war was doing that to be clear
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TopicLol, Elizabeth Warren
OniRonin
10/15/18 3:18:05 PM
#28
DeathMagnetic80 posted...
Apparently the current "chief" of the Cherokee nation is like, 1/32.

also the first one in like 20 years who isn't a fucking grifter
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TopicLol, Elizabeth Warren
OniRonin
10/15/18 3:07:47 PM
#25
InfestedAdam posted...
On another note, what is the typical percentage to claim a piece of the pie from the various tribes? Former co-worker of mine said his grandmother was part Native American and he took a DNA test to see if he has enough to make a claim. I've read said tribes are fairly strict on who they share with and it also requires showing additional proof linking you with said tribes.

what tribe? im not aware of any that accept DNA test actually but I would be interested to learn
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TopicLol, Elizabeth Warren
OniRonin
10/15/18 3:05:34 PM
#24
Jen0125 posted...
He wasn't right. She has a Native American ancestor which is literally all she ever claimed.

She's never claimed to be any specific percentage Native American. She's not the one who's made a huge to-do about her having a Native American ancestor. That's all been the Republicans.

She also listed herself as native american in a law school directory. That's a totally reasonable thing to do even with an ancestor 5 generations back like what she believed at the time. it'd seem kind of odd/maybe misleading to me with an ancestor 10 generations back, but that's the minimum of what the ancestry test claims
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TopicLol, Elizabeth Warren
OniRonin
10/15/18 3:02:29 PM
#23
ninja_lootz posted...
argonautweakend posted...
Well if its on the higher end(i guess) of the range she has as much native american in her as some actual native chiefs in modern day. The lower end seems like a trace amount a lot of people have.

So eh, i dont know

I don't know much about the DNA makeup of modern Indian Chiefs, but 1/32 Indian DNA is far below the criteria to join any tribe.


horse shit. most native americans are mixed race. for cherokee (the one I know the most about) you need an ancestor from around ~1900 listed as at least 1/4 which would usually put you at 1/128 or 1/64
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TopicLol, Elizabeth Warren
OniRonin
10/15/18 2:58:29 PM
#22
all the people who are saying that 1/64 is nothing or whatever clearly don't have family from oklahoma. it's a really common story and the history of what ancestors were NA/what tribe is hard to track
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TopicTrump may go down as the worst president.
OniRonin
10/14/18 5:16:11 PM
#107
I heard Donald trump loves Cheese Pizza with Sausage.
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TopicIs it a violation of social norm to tell my friends they picked an ineffective c
OniRonin
10/14/18 5:14:49 PM
#5
OniRonin posted...
Zeus posted...
Who picks a charity for a wedding registry? That's more of a funeral donations thing. This joke is ineffective.

People who have good careers instead of posting alt-right stuff on gamefaqs.com all day

This was a good own.
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TopicIs it a violation of social norm to tell my friends they picked an ineffective c
OniRonin
10/14/18 4:57:39 PM
#4
Zeus posted...
Who picks a charity for a wedding registry? That's more of a funeral donations thing. This joke is ineffective.

People who have good careers instead of posting alt-right stuff on gamefaqs.com all day
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TopicIs it a violation of social norm to tell my friends they picked an ineffective c
OniRonin
10/14/18 4:53:25 PM
#1
TopicIf I was JFK, I simply would have ducked.
OniRonin
10/14/18 10:18:51 AM
#8
FrozenBananas posted...
If I was JFK, I would have spun the bullets around, Magneto style

Magneto's politics are too radical for me.
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TopicIf I was JFK, I simply would have ducked.
OniRonin
10/14/18 10:16:43 AM
#7
SpeedDemon20 posted...
WERE. If you WERE. You WEREn't, but if you WERE.


If I was you, you wouldn't fix people's grammer so often.
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TopicIf I was JFK, I simply would have ducked.
OniRonin
10/14/18 10:16:13 AM
#6
TopicIf I was JFK, I simply would have ducked.
OniRonin
10/14/18 10:09:59 AM
#1
If I was JFK, I simply would have ducked!
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Please Stop asking me if i'm 13, I just turned 27.
TopicIs nobody watching the Kavanugh stream?
OniRonin
09/28/18 10:54:39 AM
#80
SENATOR DO YOU GET WASTED madlads
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Please Stop asking me if i'm 13, I just turned 27.
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