Lurker > pxlated

if they do a luke show they have to recast right? doing a whole show of deepfake luke would be a nightmare

it took me so far out of the scene. i'd much rather they just left his hood up or something

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oh rad, thank you

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i started a rewatch of season 2, what are these little creatures?



from the season premiere. my first thought was womp rats but they're too small and without the proper fangs? normally there's people cataloging every single thing that pops up in this show but i can't see anyone mention these guys

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marianne williamson is too good for this country

we need those orbs now more than ever

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Revan was what immediately came to mind but im playing kotor2 for the first time recently so im a bit biased.

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I had luke spoiled by a meme on the reddit front page. Was still a great moment but definitely stole some thunder

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deepfake luke isn't real, he can't hurt me

seriously though i'd almost rather they just kept the hood up the whole time if they didn't want to commit to recasting.

otherwise, excellent finale

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i want the leaked audio of biden telling buttigieg "Get on the fucking bus, pete" when offering him transportation secretary after he turned down every other position that was offered for not having enough clout

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StartTheMachine posted...

Same on calling both forever ago, so ^5 for political prophesying abilities.

Also reminder that Tulsi literally made a PragerU video. Even Glenn is...currently above that.

Addendum: Jimmy Dore still makes both of them look like bastions of reason.

i am no fan of tulsi but i want to correct the record - that prageru video was ripped from footage she released on her own. she clearly doesn't have a problem with them using it (and might even be getting paid for it, probably) but I don't believe it is accurate to say "she made a prageru video"

she made a video and prageru slapped its logo on it after the fact

edit: on the subject of political pundit prophesying, i called the rising out for being a grift/op to keep vulnerable people from actually getting radicalized to the left back in the primaries when they were still getting all the good will from bernie supporters. not sure how anyone ever took that show seriously (myself included, even when my instinct was telling me it was a grift)


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Ah, I did actually misread that post. Apologies.

And im stuck up because i only look at this topic as a form of self harm when i am not doing well instead of actually hurting myself. This leads to me being very abrasive and caustic here and I am honestly sorry for that.


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Its honeslty impressive how many people still throw "russian bots!" at literally everything. You could make the same basic statement without sounding like an idiot by just omitting the word russian. Bots exist. They arent all russian. And russia is not the source of american political problems. We do enough of our own disinformation campaigns.

Please note that i am not claiming russia did not/does not meddle in our politics and whatever.

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"Prove my claims for me"


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red sox 777 posted...

I would have thought it would be way more than 1 million. Trump has like 89 million followers on Twiter.

The vast majority of youtube viewers (assuming its youtube because of "subscribers" vs some other word) do not subscribe to anything, even channels they watch religiously. The overwhelming majority

YouTube will do all the work of knowing what you like to watch regardless. Twitter does not. Hell you dont even need an account on youtube for the algorithm to learn your shit.

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70 million russian bots voted for trump

In all seriousness tho, why is oann having a million subs shocking or surprising? Literally 70 million people voted for trump. Not all of those people are hapless oann types, but certainly a very large percentage. And those 70 million voters arent even the only potential viewers

Also, the internet is no longer as young as you think it is. Unless youre lumping 40-60 into "young". Especially in conservative conspiracy places

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ZenOfThunder posted...

my girlfriend and i fight over the switch (she wants to play AC and i want to play hades) so I am thinking of getting it for PC. does anyone know if the cross-save feature goes between switch and PC?

unless it was very recently released in a patch, not yet. they are working on it though.

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good cherry pie > good apple pie > bad apple pie > bad cherry pie

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https://media.giphy.com/media/l1J3B3dC03Vfko1Uc/giphy.gif

how the heck do you get gifs to embed on gamefaqs

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If you dont have to go cross eyed just to play it is it even worth playing

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bump

haven't played in a bit but i know i'll get back to this some time sooner than later

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Jokes on them the Republicans have effectively raised taxes through wage theft.

except taxes at least go to the government to ostensibly be spent back on things people need. like more fighter jets and missles to shoot at brown people

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LordoftheMorons posted...

The same Hugo Chavez who is... very dead?

the very same! apparently he was in charge of writing the code that the machines that stole the election used. or some such nonsense.

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trump's campaign blaming hugo chavez for the election loss is maybe the funniest thing i've heard all year

what is going on in this country holy shit

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So, while insomnia browsing, i ended up on the website for a candidate for Texas governor in 22, and i'll just leave this here without comment:

"Feeling rejected at every turn, he embraced the goth culture. Dressing goth gave him the experience of being outside of acceptable culture and he began to be targeted by police. He was subjected to many random stops, told he was speeding or driving erratically when he wasnt, and was even harassed by police at school. He was stopped for not having a hall pass and then falsely charged with resisting arrest and assaulting an officer. Without first asking for compliance, the officer decided to tackle Patrick. Out of instinct, Patrick stepped back which caused the officer to fall on the floor instead of on Patrick, and the officer broke his wrist. The officer of course blamed this on a high school student who had never once touched him. These experiences taught him first hand, that while there are many good police officers, there are also corrupt ones. He saw how appearance affects how police treat you and understood that he was privileged enough to be able to change the way he dressed to escape persecution. He understands the plight of darker skinned people, who will be targeted by some just for the color of their skin, an attribute that is a part of them and unchangeable. "

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hey here's another good youtube channel/video i am just learning about thanks to the serfs (always starts his broadcasts with content by smaller creators)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vfx1kQlmOk

and here's the list from last topic for convenience:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhG1F0uCvVQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz6dnJJfz5Q (this is stepbackhistory's second channel)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-NnqODNdTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQV-W_Ut8MY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOKW4U5sY_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjVbk6JSck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwUIDNYwZRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMgq34Xf8Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSHpjdGXN4o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKgyOOU8moc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUKW0EsMSyQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBc7qBS1Ujo

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oh, right, yeah, in my experience people who are adamant about "libertarian socialist" are just in it for the aesthetic of the words lmao. usually they're pretty pragmatic about how to actually achieve stuff

definitely not one of the lefty identifiers that causes an impulsive "not this shit again" response

edit: no worries on the confusion, sorry if i came off aggressive. this is a recurring problem i have and need to be better about.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted... I'm probably oversimplifying it but the "libertarian socialism" thing just struck me as weird wording on the classic debate of if you need to use or abolish the state to get to your stateless communist utopia. And I guess taking the mirror form of the dem soc position where the transition state is the end goal

i'm not exactly sure what you're getting at here and am not entirely sure how to respond as a result.

if you're trying to say the difference between american libertarians and libertarian socialists is, same goals, different execution, no, definitely not. only in the broadest, most generic ways possible, but even that feels like a stretch.

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abolish the police

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I'm probably oversimplifying it but the "libertarian socialism" thing just struck me as weird wording on the classic debate of if you need to use or abolish the state to get to your stateless communist utopia. And I guess taking the mirror form of the dem soc position where the transition state is the end goal

i'm not exactly sure what you're getting at here and am not entirely sure how to respond as a result.

if you're trying to say the difference between american libertarians and libertarian socialists is, same goals, different execution, no, definitely not. only in the broadest, most generic ways possible, but even that feels like a stretch.

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golden goose? i thought he was bronze

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

still catching up on this topic but "libertarian socialism" lol what

libertarianism was originally a left wing/socialist ideology that was co-opted by right wing americans. left wingers who now want to use the label generally go with "libertarian socialist" and it is generally not terribly different from people who use the label "anarcho-communist"

pretty sure the people that co-opted it bragged about it too. or their successors. somewhere along that line people were bragging about having stolen it from the lefties

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i'll be nice and work on a list of some videos by some of these people that i think are good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhG1F0uCvVQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz6dnJJfz5Q (this is stepbackhistory's second channel)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-NnqODNdTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQV-W_Ut8MY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOKW4U5sY_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjVbk6JSck (forgot to mention this one, innuendo studios. his series on the alt-right pipeline is also wonderful)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwUIDNYwZRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMgq34Xf8Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSHpjdGXN4o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKgyOOU8moc (also forgot to mention somemorenews)

will probably edit this with more as i think of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUKW0EsMSyQ bdg isn't a political youtuber...yet. one can dream, though. and this video very nearly could be a breadtube video with a little more heavy handed messaging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBc7qBS1Ujo


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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

If you're looking for Left analysis, Cushvlog (Matt from Chapo) does streams that absolutely slay.

also yeah those streams are maybe the only time i ever really like anything chapo related

edit: i realize i've shat on them a lot, which i shouldn't. i agree with them on almost everything i'm sure. they're not really any more flawed than most of the other creators i mentioned. just in different ways.

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okay yeah i guess with the distinction between excusing and denying maybe. not sure one is any better or worse than the other though

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more shoutouts: radical reviewer, renegade cut, beau of the fifth column, intelexual media

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and right wingers don't?

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some more good content creators: badempanada can be great sometimes, though he can also fly off the handle a little bit sometimes, but he's definitely done some good stuff.

mexie is great!

ben burgis is great, though his insistance that krystal ball isn't a grifter is off-putting.

javitrino is a great leftist from spain

camazots

stepbackhistory and related channels

theserfs, though they mostly do reaction content. they're my go to for like...fluffy entertainment left wing stuff. any time i want to see someone dunk on tim pool for a while or something like that.

obviously contrapoints, philosophy tube, etc. but i probably dont need to plug those people.

edit: oh yeah, creationist cat/vadim speaks. if you can get past the character voice anyway. (the channel is currently i think transitioning away from reliance on the creationist cat character but that's been a slow process)

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StartTheMachine posted...

For all of you dislike Vaush, who farther left than Dem Soc would you recommend instead? I only recently started getting into more YouTubers like that. Usually it was just Pakman and The Rational National and the like that I listened to.

the majority report. unfortunately not quite as good since michael brooks' passing, but emma vigeland just joined and is wonderful, and there is a wide range of like, more center leaning but still progressive sam seder and all his various cohosts and producers who are a lot more radical and diverse in their opinions. thought slime is good, but can be rather condescending, a little doomerish, and a little too far down the irony and apathy poisoned well that a lot of these types seem to end up in (a la chapo). big joel is good. we're in hell is good. jack saint, though he is primarily entertainment media focused, all his stuff is definitely through a leftist lens. non-compete can lean a little too hard into the "defending authoritarian regimes" maybe sometimes but in general is quite good and offers some international perspectives.

i can give more as i think of them, this is just off the top of my head.

also if you like twitch streams/something to have on in the background a lot like people do with cnn or something, hasan's stream is great for that. streams every single day for like at least 8 hours starting in the afternoonish. usually around 11 or 12 PST i think.

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foolm0r0n posted...

Equating child sexual exploitation with child labor is definitely awful and worth losing cred

yeah sorry i didn't mean to imply he shouldn't get dragged for that take either - i realize the last thing i said with the harassment stuff might indicate that but that was mostly just me trying to make a jab/bring that bit into the discussion.

absolutely a terrible take and one he admits was terrible and dumb. i hate and feel gross defending vaush but i very very much dislike how comfortable people get throwing out misinformation and mischaracterized attacks like that. vaush wasn't defending child pornography and saying he doesn't see why it should be illegal and that's always the claim of people who bring it up.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

I dont know if it was here or twitter where I saw this discussed, but I think Vaush said that in the context of a criticism of people using products made with child labor? Like if well wear shoes that are the product of exploited children, whats the problem with child porn which is also a product of exploiting children.

i barely know who Vaush is so im not the best source on this, thats just my recollection of someone elses explanation

yes this is his explanation. a very poorly constructed, intentionally baity way to goad someone into a "no ethical consumption under capitalism" discussion. note i am saying that is *his* explanation and not that i am absolving him of the statements for it. it's a bad argument and an absolutely fucking moronic and revolting way to try and make it. the majority of fuming/(cyclo?)'s claims are at least rooted in truth (no idea where the trans thing comes from, have never heard him say anything like that and i go out of my way to find controversy like this) but are the most uncharitable, removed from context and of any of vaush's statements or his overall body of work versions of the truth. vaush is an idiot and far from my favorite for plenty of reasons but that list of accusations is twitter-fueled, clipped and exaggerated anger from people who dislike him for like...shitting on chapo all the time or whatever (and right wingers ofc)

like if you want something legitimate to cancel vaush for, let it be his sexual harassment and pestering of internet friends. that's at least a real thing that isn't incredibly removed from the context it happened in (altho still greatly mischaracterized)

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i'm not saying the democrats could have a hyper partisan news network if it wanted to i'm saying the democrats absolutely could have the equivalent presence and control over the media narrative if they wanted to. they already *do* have the same kind of influence over the media narrative, they just use it badly.

also the idea that people on the left don't want partisan news is definitely not true, but not particularly relevant to the point i was making.

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...what?

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red13n posted...

I know you were being sarcastic but this is actually true.

There is no Democratic equivalent to Fox News.

only because they don't care to have one. fundamentally, the democratic establishment (and their media arms) don't care for progressive policies. why would they spend money fighting it?

it's not some like...magical inherent thing that the republicans are better at the media. the democrats absolutely have all the same resources. they just squander them because it doesn't actually suit their interests to do otherwise.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I dont understand why you guys continuously paint the Democrats as completely powerless in comparison to Republicans and activists. Republicans have a powerful media machine and thr Dems have nothing. The mere existence of activists causes Democrats to lose elections and they can't do anything about it. I'm clearly not gonna change your minds on this so I'm done

yeah dude, activists just have the same resources and motivations as the democrats so like, they need to just pick up their end of the bargain man! their side is dragging us all down

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Yes. Defund the police hurt candidates because they *failed to respond to opposition messaging*

Thats not the activists fault.

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red13n posted...

I don't disagree here really. I just don't like completely trying to let activists off the hook here either.

There are lessons to be learned by both sides and I don't believe in coddling either side.

Either side??? What "side" are the activists on? What fucking power do they have?

What the fuck nonsense is this

Activists arent running fucking campaigns for political office. There is no "both sides" in this discussion

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red13n posted...

I didn't ever say they have control over it.

Just that it is messaging that is used against them. In the eyes of public opinion they own it too.

To say it had no impact is just ignorant. It becomes an issue whether you want it to or not.

Where did i say it has no impact? Why are you so adamant about defending politicians who repeatedly fail? Literally the whole point is that blaming activists is 1) pointless and does literally nothing and 2) if democrats focused on positive fucking policy messaging instead of letting their narratives get completely fucking controlled by the opposition, they wouldnt be losing. The problem isnt the activists, its the politicians failing to apppropriately respond and campaign.

You are literally part of the problem when you accept this stupid argument that the problem is the activist messaging

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red13n posted...

No one is actually saying its wrong here though. Just that the messaging did have some impact on elections(It did).

And again, for candidates to go "Yeah those progressives cost me an election". Yes, its wrong. They shouldn't blame the people.

At the same time, people shouldn't be trying to absolve the message(Or slogan, in this case) of having impact. It did.

You keep talking about messaging. What fucking messaging? Activist messaging? That politicians have literally 0 control over or direct affiliation with? How about the messaging of the politicians that lost? You know, the messaging they actually have control over? And ownership of?

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red13n posted...

I'd like to think the FBI and such has gotten better at keeping important people alive, tbh.

We haven't had a major assassination in this country in awhile.

Yes the fbi who was notoriously good to mlk

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red13n posted...

No one is saying this though. The cause is good, the actual root meaning of the slogan is good.

The slogan just polls horribly in comparison to everything else.

You don't have to focus group to know that.

Politicians dont control activists. The reason activism hurts democrats is because democrats dont fucking fight back against right wing narratives about the activism. They roll over and implicitly accept all the fucking nonsense getting peddled about them.

Stop blaming activists for the failures of politicians

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red13n posted...

Also in regards to MLK, I think its unfair to compare protesters to him. He was a fantastic speaker, the BLM movement as a whole could really use someone like him as a figurehead. But right now that person doesn't really exist. So for now, there really is some onus on the people to recognize "Hey this slogan isn't popular, we dont focus group, but we can see that people like the message but not the dumb slogan".

Hey did you forget the part where he was fucking assassinated, not to mentioned harrassed by the government? Why the fuck do you think blm leadership is decentralized

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