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TopicJAKAS Presents Good Movie or Bad Movie - Frozen
Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
07/30/24 10:42:25 AM
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INTRO

Welcome to my series of topics! A while ago I did a JAKAS Presents with Genesis games. Now I'm asking the question of if a movie is "Good" or "Bad". Feel free to caveat in the topic, since there are definitely movies that are objectively terrible that someone can like. Also, I'm gonna go alphabetically so if you have a movie you want tossed in here, go for it.

NOTE : It is unlikely I will put in universally beloved films since I mean, the jury is kinda already out on that. No reason to really ask if Jurassic Park is a good or bad movie. I might break this now and then with my own personal favorites or universally beloved movies that I personally don't like since you know, it's my series of topics.

FILM DISCUSSION **SPOILERS**

Yes yes yes, Frozen is one of the most successful films of all times. JAKAS you fool, what are you talking about? Of course Frozen must be a good movie then... right? I argue that while it is a successful film, I don't think of it as a good movie honestly. You can sorta tell the film was in developmental hell for DECADES (which is true) since it is based off The Snow Queen, which would have had Elsa being a villain. Disney basically argued internally for years about whether or not they could do something like that, and you can tell that in the final project.

There is a reason the villain twist comes out of nowhere and that is because IT DOES! The film does nothing to earn Hans being a villain. I'm sorry, it is a cheat to the narrative that even in moments where you could show him having ANY LICK of a negative bone in his body, you chose not to. The writers admitted as much saying that they had to make it a big surprise and if you gave the audience any sort of inclination it "wouldn't have worked". It didn't work BECAUSE you gave us no inclination! You didn't have the temerity to have Elsa be the villain who was "defeated" by the power of familial love (which would have led to the same payoff), you purposefully pull a twist out of literal thin air, and thus you kinda muck with Anna's story line to make that happen. =/

It has great music, it was wildly successful, but I don't like it and I don't think it's good. I'd MUCH rather watch nearly all the other 2010's Disney films.

https://youtu.be/TbQm5doF_Uc?si=hhBd3KM10rm9nNaQ

PREVIOUS POLL RESULTS

Angels in the Outfield (94) - 22 Good, 5 bad, 3 not seen
Brave - 20 good, 16 bad, 11 not seen
Couples Retreat - 4 good, 9 bad, 4 not seen
Demolition Man - 57 good, 4 bad, 1 not seen
Enemy of the State - 19 good, 3 bad, 6 not seen

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