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TopicMobile Suit Geekdam: Geek vs Zeta Geek
Zeus
08/25/18 1:23:06 AM
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I_Abibde posted...
Have not pondered TDK for a good while. I like Aaron Eckhart enough as Harvey Dent / Two-Face to forgive how awful his performance was (IMO) in Black Dahlia. ... Then again, that entire movie was wretched.


I enjoyed Black Dahlia =x Partly because it was my first ScarJo film.

Metalsonic66 posted...
Zeus posted...
That's very rarely handled well.

They did it well in the '90s Batman series. They could have just kept most of that the same.

Though, the main gimmick of the Dark Knight trilogy was "everything is 'realistic'", so, even though split personalities do exist IRL, Nolan probably thought it would be too "unbelievable".


They didn't touch on the split aspect that often, that I can recall. It occasionally just took the form of Two-Face talking to himself and, quite honestly, not that many years earlier you had *two* other supervillains who talked to themselves in widely lampooned moments (Green Gob and Doc Ock)

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Very few people would hesitate to call Lex Luthor a supervillain, yet apart from the occasional moments of lapsed judgement when he puts on kyrptonite powered armor suits and tried to out-punch Superman, he's very rarely overt in his villainy. He's certainly never felt the need to establish a "code name", and most of the time, he covers his tracks enough to be beloved of the general population. In a few cases, enough so to actually become President of the US.


I've always been on the fence over calling Luthor a supervillain, although he *certainly* has presentation down given that his version of a powersuit lets him go toe-to-toe with heroes and villains in addition to his overblown schemes. That said, doesn't Lex undermine your point? Once Lex starts doing evil, he's pretty widely known for it and he's somewhat of a supervillain simply *because* he gets away with that kind of shit which is comic books-level stuff. And given that people know enough not to trust him, he kinda undermines your previous argument.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
I'd argue that the difference between villain and supervillain isn't one of how ostentatious you are, but what your goals are, and what methods you use to carry them out.

Rob a bank with guns and maybe explosives? Villain. Rob a bank with freeze lasers or strange electrical powers? Supervillain. Try to kill your noisy neighbor with a tire iron? Villain. Try to defeat or kill a superhero? Supervillain.


idk, seems like ability is more important than just methods. A lot of superheroes and villains are just exceptionally talented rather than empowered or using anything unusual. As for trying to defeat or kill a superhero, pretty much every flunky tries it >_>
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