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09/12/18 9:28:17 AM
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Nrrr posted...
Putting aside my issues with property rights etc I don't think it just a simple "just get rid of it" situation like with ICE

Well yeah, ICE is obviously easy to abolish because it didn't exist until what...15 years ago? It's easy to present a model of how America would work without it, it's called 2002.

Nrrr posted...
I think some of the work they do could even be handled by completely separate institutions.

Oh, yeah, that has been done elsewhere. They do that in Italy (or did last time I was there), where they have two different kinds of police. (Essentially traffic cops, and violent crime cops). I'm not sure how well it works, granted. The one thing I did notice was that it was suuuper gendered (the traffic cops were almost all women, and the violent crime cops were almost all men).

Nrrr posted...
Not completely related to the police itself, but obviously the prison system needs to be totally reformed as well at the same time.

Oh absolutely.

Eliminate private prisons immediately. Get rid of mandatory minimum sentencing. Change the focus to rehabilitation. Eliminate the cash bail system immediately. (And really should release a large number of the non-violent drug offenders).

Norway's system provides really impressive numbers, (20% recitivism compared to 77% in the US) so that's probably a good model to start from:

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-norways-prison-system-is-so-successful-2014-12
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