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Kyuubi4269 posted...

In almost all cases no is very clearly an option

And that, my friends, is exactly what the Hollywood arm of #MeToo in particular is aiming to address. Here? There was no power imbalance, so that particular caveat doesn't really apply (aside from the fact that a sleeping person can't say no and a drunk one may have difficulty doing so, but that's more about physical limitations than emotional comfort). In many real-world cases, though, there is a degree of power imbalance, and being cognizant of that when attempting to woo a subordinate is vital if you don't want to end up on the receiving end of an assault charge.

Xialoh posted...

Pretend we're not talking about this rape article. Pretend you're a...guidance counselor. Or a genius detective. All you have is a scenario: a guy and a girl go out to several bars and get drinks. The girl doesn't want to have sex - because she's intoxicated now. Incidentally, the guy is also intoxicated. The girl invites this random heterosexual drunken male to sleep off his problems with her in her bedroom overnight.

Would you have any concerns to voice over this scenario? Might you expect any undesirable outcomes, or has everything presented to you seemed reasonable, without need for adjustments?

There would indeed be concerns, but that doesn't excuse anything. Again, cultural norms don't matter, and consent can't be assumed. There's absolutely no reason a heterosexual guy can't sleep in his female friend's room without raping her, no matter how drunk he is. Trying to excuse his behaviour as being somehow expected is ignoring that he is the only one who did anything bad. The only reason she did anything unsafe is because he was not a good person. Ergo, he is to blame.
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