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Verdekal
11/17/18 2:24:06 AM
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Dash_Harber
11/17/18 2:25:27 AM
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I haven't beaten RDR2 yet, but the story is pretty lackluster. The characters were forgettable, the missions added nothing, and the whole 'twilight of the outlaw' storyline is basically a rehash of the first game, except it's even less justifiable here since it's a prequel. TLoU isn't really my sort of game, though, so I never played it and can't really compare.
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Verdekal
11/17/18 2:26:15 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
I haven't beaten RDR2 yet, but the story is pretty lackluster. The characters were forgettable, the missions added nothing, and the whole 'twilight of the outlaw' storyline is basically a rehash of the first game, except it's even less justifiable here since it's a prequel. TLoU isn't really my sort of game, though, so I never played it and can't really compare.

What a partypooper.
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Dash_Harber
11/17/18 2:26:53 AM
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Verdekal posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I haven't beaten RDR2 yet, but the story is pretty lackluster. The characters were forgettable, the missions added nothing, and the whole 'twilight of the outlaw' storyline is basically a rehash of the first game, except it's even less justifiable here since it's a prequel. TLoU isn't really my sort of game, though, so I never played it and can't really compare.

What a partypooper.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm just saying that story is not its strength.
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MakoReizei
11/17/18 2:27:56 AM
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Don't know what TLOU2's story will do that hasn't already been done better by The Walking Dead and such tbh
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Kazi1212
11/17/18 2:28:43 AM
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I found the story of RDR2 to be its biggest strength personally. I can go into it but feel like diving in right now.
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Vita_Aeterna
11/17/18 2:34:30 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Verdekal posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I haven't beaten RDR2 yet, but the story is pretty lackluster. The characters were forgettable, the missions added nothing, and the whole 'twilight of the outlaw' storyline is basically a rehash of the first game, except it's even less justifiable here since it's a prequel. TLoU isn't really my sort of game, though, so I never played it and can't really compare.

What a partypooper.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm just saying that story is not its strength.

What chapter are you in? I think the characters are really good, especially Arthur, and Dutch maintains to be an intriguing character right to the end.

The story is simple, but well executed. It's a great story of redemption, loyalty, disillusionment and family. There's also themes of impermanence and some cool sociopolitical themes of industrialization, modernity etc. I would have though a history major like you would have appreciated it.
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Dash_Harber
11/17/18 2:37:18 AM
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Vita_Aeterna posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Verdekal posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I haven't beaten RDR2 yet, but the story is pretty lackluster. The characters were forgettable, the missions added nothing, and the whole 'twilight of the outlaw' storyline is basically a rehash of the first game, except it's even less justifiable here since it's a prequel. TLoU isn't really my sort of game, though, so I never played it and can't really compare.

What a partypooper.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm just saying that story is not its strength.

What chapter are you in? I think the characters are really good, especially Arthur, and Dutch maintains to be an intriguing character right to the end.

The story is simple, but well executed. It's a great story of redemption, loyalty, disillusionment and family.

Chapter 3, IIRC. Dutch is pretty much the standard anti-hero mentor, Arthur is a brick dressed up like Clint Eastwood, Micah (I couldn't even remember his name) might as well be spinning his evil mustache, etc. Like I said, it's not that it's a particularly bad story, just really bland, and they already did the same story before. I'm probably a bit biased, though, because I hate prequels, but I just don't feel any of the characters are particularly interesting or memorable.
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Vita_Aeterna
11/17/18 2:39:30 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Verdekal posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I haven't beaten RDR2 yet, but the story is pretty lackluster. The characters were forgettable, the missions added nothing, and the whole 'twilight of the outlaw' storyline is basically a rehash of the first game, except it's even less justifiable here since it's a prequel. TLoU isn't really my sort of game, though, so I never played it and can't really compare.

What a partypooper.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm just saying that story is not its strength.

What chapter are you in? I think the characters are really good, especially Arthur, and Dutch maintains to be an intriguing character right to the end.

The story is simple, but well executed. It's a great story of redemption, loyalty, disillusionment and family.

Chapter 3, IIRC. Dutch is pretty much the standard anti-hero mentor, Arthur is a brick dressed up like Clint Eastwood, Micah (I couldn't even remember his name) might as well be spinning his evil mustache, etc. Like I said, it's not that it's a particularly bad story, just really bland, and they already did the same story before. I'm probably a bit biased, though, because I hate prequels, but I just don't feel any of the characters are particularly interesting or memorable.

On one hand, I think 3-4 is the game's peak in every department, on the other the game's narrative definitely reaches a sort of turning point by the end of 4. Keep at it.
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Dash_Harber
11/17/18 2:40:24 AM
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Vita_Aeterna posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Verdekal posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I haven't beaten RDR2 yet, but the story is pretty lackluster. The characters were forgettable, the missions added nothing, and the whole 'twilight of the outlaw' storyline is basically a rehash of the first game, except it's even less justifiable here since it's a prequel. TLoU isn't really my sort of game, though, so I never played it and can't really compare.

What a partypooper.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm just saying that story is not its strength.

What chapter are you in? I think the characters are really good, especially Arthur, and Dutch maintains to be an intriguing character right to the end.

The story is simple, but well executed. It's a great story of redemption, loyalty, disillusionment and family.

Chapter 3, IIRC. Dutch is pretty much the standard anti-hero mentor, Arthur is a brick dressed up like Clint Eastwood, Micah (I couldn't even remember his name) might as well be spinning his evil mustache, etc. Like I said, it's not that it's a particularly bad story, just really bland, and they already did the same story before. I'm probably a bit biased, though, because I hate prequels, but I just don't feel any of the characters are particularly interesting or memorable.

On one hand, I think 3-4 is the game's peak in every department, on the other the game's narrative definitely reaches a sort of turning point by the end of 4. Keep at it.

I probably won't, honestly. I don't like a story that bores me for 3/4 only to finally start picking up in the last quarter. I feel like that is really, really shitty pacing.
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Vita_Aeterna
11/17/18 2:42:14 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Verdekal posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I haven't beaten RDR2 yet, but the story is pretty lackluster. The characters were forgettable, the missions added nothing, and the whole 'twilight of the outlaw' storyline is basically a rehash of the first game, except it's even less justifiable here since it's a prequel. TLoU isn't really my sort of game, though, so I never played it and can't really compare.

What a partypooper.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm just saying that story is not its strength.

What chapter are you in? I think the characters are really good, especially Arthur, and Dutch maintains to be an intriguing character right to the end.

The story is simple, but well executed. It's a great story of redemption, loyalty, disillusionment and family.

Chapter 3, IIRC. Dutch is pretty much the standard anti-hero mentor, Arthur is a brick dressed up like Clint Eastwood, Micah (I couldn't even remember his name) might as well be spinning his evil mustache, etc. Like I said, it's not that it's a particularly bad story, just really bland, and they already did the same story before. I'm probably a bit biased, though, because I hate prequels, but I just don't feel any of the characters are particularly interesting or memorable.

On one hand, I think 3-4 is the game's peak in every department, on the other the game's narrative definitely reaches a sort of turning point by the end of 4. Keep at it.

I probably won't, honestly. I don't like a story that bores me for 3/4 only to finally start picking up in the last quarter. I feel like that is really, really shitty pacing.

Chapter 3 is like 30% of the story but if you're not enjoying what I think is the best chapter in the game, then I don't think the game's main missions are for you.
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Dash_Harber
11/17/18 2:44:23 AM
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Vita_Aeterna posted...
Chapter 3 is like 30% of the story but if you're not enjoying what I think is the best chapter in the game, then I don't think the game's main missions are for you.

Yeah, that's what I sort of figure. There are a few other things that bother me, too. Like the glacial pace of missions and the repetitive nature of the missions. I feel like every single time I go to pick up something, I have to watch a 20 second animation for the sake of 'realism', when the game already throws realism out the door for other things.
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Tactical_Spork
11/17/18 2:44:49 AM
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RDR2 is basically just cowboy slice of life, at the point of Chapter 3 Im at. Regardless of how it may ramp up, thats way too far along to still feel like things are being set up. Theres like 3? separate minor antagonists, two of which Ive only directly encountered twice and one I basically only know about because Ive been slaughtering his goons wholesale. None of them seem to be the focus, and the game doesnt seem to want to commit to making me hate my peersfor realsies.

Fun game tho and just interacting with everyone is a highlight
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Smashingpmkns
11/17/18 2:52:38 AM
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I'm really tired of zombie shit while western shit kinda felt fresh surprisingly. I don't think I'm gonna like TLOU2's story as much as RDR2 but who knows
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GrindcoreShark
11/17/18 3:49:59 AM
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Naughty Dog's writing even before being watered down to agenda driven swill has never been even remotely noteworthy while Rockstar's is known for being top tier even for non videogame standards

This topic is garbage TC and you should feel bad
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hockeybub89
11/17/18 3:51:34 AM
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GrindcoreShark posted...
Naughty Dog's writing even before being watered down to agenda driven swill has never been even remotely noteworthy while Rockstar's is known for being top tier even for non videogame standards

This topic is garbage TC and you should feel bad

Yes, the Uncharted games are well known for being SJW propaganda.
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I4NRulez
11/17/18 4:05:52 AM
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GrindcoreShark posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Yes, the Uncharted games are well known for being SJW propaganda.

4 has blatant SJW pandering in it, while they went full SJW with Lost Legacy

https://imgur.com/HWv9x5S
https://imgur.com/2p3kgWm

And let's not forget that cringey TLoU 2 trailer with that hamfisted scene with lesbians kissing at E3 this year and Neil Druckman saying TLoU won't be fun or how "Diversity" is just as important as gameplay or graphics

https://www.gamesradar.com/we-dont-use-the-word-fun-says-the-last-of-us-2-director-neil-druckmann/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-dev-says-character-diversity-just-as-imp/1100-6441800/

But you'll just deny all this and try to deflect anyway


2 women in a game is SJW pandering? Its not like it was two established characters in a universe where the main character was done
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WhoAltisitneway
11/17/18 4:06:07 AM
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TLOU wasn't even that good

RDR2 is a god damn masterpiece
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GrindcoreShark
11/17/18 4:11:26 AM
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I4NRulez posted...

2 women in a game is SJW pandering? I

Absolutely, when your head dev talks about how important diversity is and two non white women just happen to get their own spinoff game it's a dead give away

Also the "YAS QUEEN" trophy is just as lacking in subtlety as you can get
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Tactical_Spork
11/17/18 4:12:32 AM
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Also lets stop pretending R*s writing is anything but piss lol

RDR1 was great and Max Payne 3 was decent. Everything else has been puerile garbage and trying to argue otherwise shows your media illiteracy.
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X-Pac_Heat
11/17/18 4:14:59 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
Also lets stop pretending R*s writing is anything but piss lol


Nah, I'd rather everyone stop pretending that Uncharted was anything better than "decent at best" and stop acting like TLOU and every Sony exclusive daddy issue simulator is some sort of masterpiece.
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I4NRulez
11/17/18 4:20:53 AM
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GrindcoreShark posted...
I4NRulez posted...

2 women in a game is SJW pandering? I

Absolutely, when your head dev talks about how important diversity is and two non white women just happen to get their own spinoff game it's a dead give away

Also the "YAS QUEEN" trophy is just as lacking in subtlety as you can get


Right, Diversity = Pandering now. Makes sense!

I mean as a black person i played through 4 games with 4 white characters but oh no 2 diverse characters in one game is pandering.
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pres_madagascar
11/17/18 4:26:23 AM
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It's always amusing seeing people's opinions of Dutch in the early to mid chapters.
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Dash_Harber
11/17/18 7:39:38 PM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
Also lets stop pretending R*s writing is anything but piss lol

RDR1 was great and Max Payne 3 was decent. Everything else has been puerile garbage and trying to argue otherwise shows your media illiteracy.


I wouldn't put it so bluntly, but yeah. Remember how Vice City was literally just the plot of Scarface with the serial numbers filed off?
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