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Haguile
07/03/11 4:40:00 PM
#453:


I...was just reading a topic over at wrestlecrap, about the Rock vs Cena war and how people are taking sides. I felt like it was silly to support Cena and etc.

...Then someone posted this.


This is like the male equivalent of Team Edward vs. Team Jacob.


...Then I looked over at my TEAM BRING IT shirt and began to hate myself.
Then I tried to convince myself it wasn't the same, it wasn't like a terribly written-oh wait.
...B-but...uh...
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I can't deny it, IT'S TRUE.

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-FFDragon-
07/03/11 4:42:00 PM
#454:


And that's why I couldn't give two s****s over this whole Rock/Cena slow burn. It's so bad.

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WarThaNemesis2
07/03/11 4:44:00 PM
#455:


A guy who is obviously going over vs. a guy who hasn't had a match in years and probably won't appear on multiple consecutive RAWs until 2012 is the reason I don't care about the Rock/Cena stuff. <_<

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-FFDragon-
07/03/11 4:47:00 PM
#456:


Well yeah, that's sort of implied in that too.

Rock's just coming back just to fill the Hogan role from WM18. But instead of that build being a solid two months like it was back then, they're watering it down to fill an entire year. Nothing good will come from all this.

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WarThaNemesis2
07/03/11 4:48:00 PM
#457:


Watering it down? The build right now isn't watered down, it's non-existent.

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-FFDragon-
07/03/11 4:51:00 PM
#458:


It gets mentioned every now and again.

Punk mentioned it last week! Sure it was to mention how stupid it was, but he mentioned it!

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Viktor Vaughn
07/03/11 4:51:00 PM
#459:


i'd say that the rock needs to go away but he isn't even here

he's just looming over next year's mania like a dark cloud of predictability

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JaKyL25
07/03/11 5:23:00 PM
#460:


Wow, Rock wore out that welcome pretty quickly!

If you came back from the future and guaranteed someone just 5 months ago that The Rock would be wrestling at Wrestlemania XXVIII they would have wet their pants with glee.

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JaKyL25
07/03/11 5:26:00 PM
#461:


I mean, hindsight aside, CM Punk's promo last week wasn't even the most incredible show-ending promo on Raw this year, even basing on "how much are people loving this" at the time they were happening.

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WarThaNemesis2
07/03/11 5:27:00 PM
#462:


Rock has worn out his welcome by not being here, and the possibly dramatic 'Cena getting the belt to make the Rock/Cena match matter even more' story ending immediately.

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-FFDragon-
07/03/11 5:27:00 PM
#463:


WWE is exceptional at blowing builds.

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Viktor Vaughn
07/03/11 5:28:00 PM
#464:


it's their specialty

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JaKyL25
07/03/11 5:35:00 PM
#465:


I dunno, I just think people expect too much sometimes.

What was the last angle from any company (WWE, TNA, WCW, late-era ECW) with a WWE-esque structure (weekly shows building to monthly megacard) that had build that truly delivered in the end? Possibly Jericho vs. Michaels?

Either the format just doesn't lend itself well to that sort of thing, or else the entire industry is just incompetent at it, or possibly in this day and age with so many more fans bouncing ideas and opinions off of each other constantly it really dilutes the effect of anything that's not world-shattering like Punk's promo.

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WarThaNemesis2
07/03/11 5:38:00 PM
#466:


Are you really saying Taker/HBK didn't have any build? >_>

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JaKyL25
07/03/11 5:40:00 PM
#467:


No, I'm saying I forgot about it! <_<

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voltch
07/03/11 5:43:00 PM
#468:


O_O

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Viktor Vaughn
07/03/11 5:49:00 PM
#469:


i personally would be down with one ppv every two months

one important tv show paired with one superstars-type tv show every week

also a rotating schedule for talent

guys have a few months in, and a few months out

keep the rotations mixed up so it doesn't get too predictable

wwe is dumb because they keep all their talent exposed to the public all the time nonstop

they only stop for injuries and veterans who have the tenure to ask for time off without risking their spot

edit also it would probably lessen injuries and guys would have end up having more years in them also maybe they wouldn't get addicted to painkillers and steroids?????

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JaKyL25
07/03/11 5:55:00 PM
#470:


I've always been more of a fan of just having WWE shut down for 6 weeks every year between Thanksgiving and New Year's, roughly.

Do Survivor Series and then TV the week after to set up some cliffhangers, then after the SD tapings that Tuesday everyone gets sent home until whatever the first Monday of the new year is for Raw.

Unless they want to go on the completely voluntary Tribute to the Troops tour/show for a week in December, and maybe have certain guys come in to film bumper footage for the "Best Of" shows that would be airing in the interim.

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JaKyL25
07/03/11 6:11:00 PM
#471:


Here's even a rough outline of how I'd fill that gap:

No NXT or Superstars during any of this. Internationally those timeslots would just be filled with edited clips of that week's other stuff.

Week One would be that final week of TV Tapings they do right after Survivor Series

Week Two would be an end-of-season recap and analysis, featuring Roundtable discussion from people like Striker and Josh and JR (kinda like Prime Time Wrestling used to be) and exit interviews from various Superstars about whatever cliffhanger angle they have going on.

Week Three would be the Slammy Awards, with an arena setup kinda like the Hall of Fame. Mandatory attendance but no matches. Just re-run it on SD.

Week Four would have Raw and SD each be dedicated to highlights from the past year for whoever were voted the Raw and SD Superstars of the Year at the Slammys, respectively.

Week Five would be Tribute to the Troops, preferably filming 2 shows (one for the Raw timeslot and one for the SD timeslot), but if that's not possible just re-run it.

Week Six would be a countdown spread out over Raw and SD featuring the Top Ten Matches of the Year, in their entirety (but with commercial breaks) if possible, as voted on by the fans at WWE.com.

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TimJab
07/03/11 6:15:00 PM
#472:


From: JaKyL25 | #465
I dunno, I just think people expect too much sometimes.

What was the last angle from any company (WWE, TNA, WCW, late-era ECW) with a WWE-esque structure (weekly shows building to monthly megacard) that had build that truly delivered in the end? Possibly Jericho vs. Michaels?

Either the format just doesn't lend itself well to that sort of thing, or else the entire industry is just incompetent at it, or possibly in this day and age with so many more fans bouncing ideas and opinions off of each other constantly it really dilutes the effect of anything that's not world-shattering like Punk's promo.


WCW managed to keep the build for Sting vs. Hogan hot for something like 18 months despite Sting not being an in-ring competitor (like The Rock).

Of course, they fumbled the ball at the goal line, but at least they got there. WWE went 3 and out.

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JaKyL25
07/03/11 6:23:00 PM
#473:


There were still huge chunks of time during that build where Hogan was absent!

Even though in both that situation and this situation we know who's gonna win in the end, I think the difference is that Sting really created an awesome gimmick, and fans genuinely WANTED him to kick Hogan's ass, even with the nWo finding themselves more popular than WCW in general.

Cena is, by contrast, not quite as universally popular as a face, and a lot of people are NOT looking forward to him winning, so therefore I'm not sure that any sort of build they could do would be viewed well.

Personally I prefer Cena as Champion fending off increasingly bigger heel threats trying to dethrone him over Cena as driven contender searching for the title over a 6-month span but somehow having it constantly elude his grasp until he finally reaches it.

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JaKyL25
07/03/11 6:30:00 PM
#474:


Also a factor is that, even if we kinda guessed, Hogan vs. Sting actually being booked was never set in stone until close to Starrcade. There was always that "When will this finally happen?" tension.

The problem with Cena/Rock is that we KNOW the date, and it's so far away that nothing happening right now really matters that much with regard to it, unless they REALLY wanted to hammer home "Cena's quest to walk into WM as Champion" which would really bury everyone else even moreso than usual after a Cena feud.

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Viktor Vaughn
07/03/11 6:37:00 PM
#475:


to me it just kind of announces to everyone that they shouldn't expect to be surprised heading into Mania because everything is almost guaranteed to return to the status quo by then

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JaKyL25
07/03/11 6:40:00 PM
#476:


Viktor Vaughn posted...
to me it just kind of announces to everyone that they shouldn't expect to be surprised heading into Mania because everything is almost guaranteed to return to the status quo by then

In what sense though?

We don't know anything else that might be happening on the card underneath that superfight, and we don't even know if that fight will even end up being for the title or not.

I'm 90% sure that it won't be but I just went 0-7 on predix last Sunday so what do I know.

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Viktor Vaughn
07/03/11 6:44:00 PM
#477:


when does john cena ever let down the fans

and don't bring up the nexus stuff because he basically no sold that s***

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voltch
07/03/11 6:52:00 PM
#478:


From: JaKyL25 | #476
I'm 90% sure that it won't be but I just went 0-7 on predix last Sunday so what do I know.


you went 3/4 in mma, maybe you should channel that luck more.

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TimJab
07/03/11 7:15:00 PM
#479:


my sister wants me to visit her in chicago from july 22nd to july 27th

she's a doctor so her schedule is not very flexible

how can i somehow manipulate this into attending money in the bank

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/03/11 7:19:00 PM
#480:


Have her watch Smackdown. Chicks fall in love with Randy Orton and she'll want to go. It's advocating someone supporting Orton... but it may be a price to pay to get in MITB.

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TimJab
07/03/11 7:26:00 PM
#481:


the problem is that mitb is on july 17th, so i have to find a way to go a week early

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Tom Bombadil
07/03/11 7:39:00 PM
#482:


I live around Chicagoish

that probably doesn't help but hey >_>

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ScareChan
07/03/11 8:06:00 PM
#483:


What I think they need to do is in the meantime they need to have Rock bring in some guys to mess up Cena for him while he is away. Kinda like a smaller Nexus or Nation or something who are just there to slow Cena down. Mason Ryan will be a good step after the Punk stuff. Batista would be ideal but he is small and doing MMA right now. Someone like Lashley would be good, but again not around. I think the best thing that could happen for WWE would have Joe somehow end up away from TNA and sign him as one of Rock's cousins and have him take Cena to the limit

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Coffee Ninja
07/03/11 8:07:00 PM
#484:


WHAT WAS THE JOKE UIN THE WRESTKLUING ROQD DIARIES QWHERE THE PUNCHLINE WAS :WHEN ITS DEAD"\


cause that was my favorit one/

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vcharon
07/03/11 8:54:00 PM
#485:


Barely mention of Sheamus in this topic.

Brogue kicks for all you fellas.

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JaKyL25
07/03/11 8:59:00 PM
#486:


Sheamus is gonna make the WHC match a Triple Threat, and also win MitB, and cash-in on himself.

Then he can keep perpetuating title wins and rematch clauses forever and never have to fight anyone new.

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GTM
07/03/11 9:46:00 PM
#487:


so is coffee ninja actually drunk or am I missing something here

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07/03/11 9:47:00 PM
#488:


JaKyL25 posted...
Sheamus is gonna make the WHC match a Triple Threat, and also win MitB, and cash-in on himself.

Then he can keep perpetuating title wins and rematch clauses forever and never have to fight anyone new.



BUT TEDDY LONG WILL SCREW HIM! HE CAN AND HE WILL!

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Haguile
07/03/11 9:49:00 PM
#489:


From: GTM | #488
BUT TEDDY LONG WILL SCREW HIM! HE CAN AND HE WILL!


BUT THEN SHEAMUS WILL KNOCK HIM UNCONSCIOUS BEFORE HE CAN SCREW HIM!

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Coffee Ninja
07/03/11 9:50:00 PM
#490:


BIG RED DONT MESS AROUND

SUCH A SHAMEFUL THING IMO

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Haguile
07/03/11 9:54:00 PM
#491:


LOBSTER HEEEEEEEEEEEEEAD

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Coffee Ninja
07/03/11 9:55:00 PM
#492:


OOOOOOOOOH DEM WORDS WAS TRUE

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Haguile
07/03/11 9:57:00 PM
#493:


TOO MANY LIMES TOO MANY LIMES

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Coffee Ninja
07/03/11 9:58:00 PM
#494:


YOU KNOW WHO SUCKS AT WRESTLING?

RANDY BORETON LMAO SOO BAD

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Viktor Vaughn
07/03/11 9:59:00 PM
#495:


what a scrub

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PepsiPlunge
07/03/11 10:00:00 PM
#496:


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Coffee Ninja
07/03/11 10:02:00 PM
#497:


CM PUNK SOOOO GOOD

He might be my new man crush. Sorry Johnny Depp

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Haguile
07/03/11 10:03:00 PM
#498:


Randy Orton said he wanted to be an archaeologist if he wasn't a wrestler.
...I wonder if he would RKO dinosaurs.

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Viktor Vaughn
07/03/11 10:03:00 PM
#499:


my name is finlay


and i love to fight

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Coffee Ninja
07/03/11 10:03:00 PM
#500:


A T REX WOULD WHUP ORTONS SORRY ASS

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