Board 8 > AoD 970: LMS needs to be banned from AoD Noms

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Zachnorn
06/29/11 11:35:00 AM
#1:


Note: Unless someone has a particularly convincing argument doing so, I'm probably not going to actually ban LMS from nominating anything as a result of this topic. My vew below explains my reasoning.

969 Results: Samurais > Ninjas & Pirates
Agree: 9
Disagree: 40

My view: Disagree. I have not seen him breaking any rules, only making nominations that people don't really like. So, considering that I have not seen him breaking any rules, I don't see a reason to ban him. A rule stating that a person should be banned from nominations, whether or not it is actually in the list of rules or not, seems way too subjective for me to actually enforce it and ban people because of it. That said, I can enforce the rule saying I can remove anything, and I am planning to clean up the nominations list soon.

Rules:
1. Nominations must be open to debate. Use words like best, worst, or a variant thereof sparingly.
2. You are allowed to just agree or disagree without discussing the topic, but discussion of said topic is not only welcomed, it's allowed.
3. No alts, no flaming, no rallying, and no trolling.
4. You can nominate up to three different nominations every day. You cannot use them on one twice/three times in one day, and you can only nominate something once.
4a. You can also denominate a potential topic at any of the nomination levels. Denominations use up two regular nominations however, and afterword you can only nominate one item. Also, if you are denoming an item at five, please give a reason as to why. And no, "it is bad" won't work. If the item is denommed at 5, it must be renommed within 3 AoD topics or it will lose its scheduled date.
5. In long posts (IE: over a paragraph) Please bold/do something to your vote so I can pick it out.

Remember: that I can (and will) remove anything I deem worthless, useless, pointless, stupid, or too silly.

Previous Results: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Agree_or_Disagree
Full nomination list: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19449924/AoD/AoDnoms.txt

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Zachnorn
06/29/11 11:35:00 AM
#2:


Showing 43 noms out of 82 total. (52%)

Five
The N64 is the worst Nintendo home console so far. (Noms: Ulti, LMS) - 971
Super Metroid, Final Fantasy VI, or Chrono Trigger was the best SNES game (Noms: Ulti, LMS) - 972
Opinions can be wrong. (Noms: Ulti, Vlado, Emporer_Kazbar, pae) (Denom: VeryInsane, The Real Truth) - 973
The original Metal Gear Solid was the best game on the PlayStation. (Nom: Doma, Ulti, LMS) - 974
Wii > N64 (Nom: speedpunk, LMS, Ulti) - 975
The end of rule #2 should read: "...not only allowed, it's welcomed." Instead of "...not only welcomed, it's allowed" (Nom: Sspectre, Kazbar, 521, Ulti) - 976
Mario Kart 3DS should have a cup consisting entirely of Rainbow Road courses. (Nom: DomaDragoon, speedpunk, 521, Ulti, YetAnothr) - 977
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End is underrated (Nom: Bosco, KBM, Doma, Ulti, mnkboy907) - 978
Metal Gear Solid 4 is not one of the best games ever. (Noms: MSS, Doma, Ulti, LMS) - 979
+14 more...

Four
"The Internet" only hates Family Guy because South Park told them to (Nom: Menji, Ulti, pae)
You would rather play your favorite video game than eat your favorite food. (Nom: Kazbar, Doma, Ulti, pae)
Samus' personality in Other M is underrated. (Nom: Ulti, LMS)
when searching for games on Gamefaqs, having to browse through pages for a certain letter for a certain console is stupid. (Nom: Doma, Ulti)
Facebook will go the way of Myspace in five years (Nom: Ulti, paerarru)
You would have been ok with Kh2 marking the end of the Kh series. (Nom: YetAnothrShadow, DYL, GenesisSaga, Ulti)

Three
Popeye with spinach could beat a decent percentage of superheroes in a fight (Nom: Kazbar, Ulti, Doma)
Cheating authority is ok, but cheating equals is not. (Nom: Colgreen, Ulti, pae)
Chrono Trigger > any Final Fantasy (Nom: LMS, Ulti)
Metroid: Other M > Duke Nukem Forever (Nom: LMS)
2007 was one of the best years of gaming ever. (Nom: LMS, Doma, Ulti)
Tom Hanks is the GOAT actor. (Nom: Pondos, Doma, Ulti)
Despite the smaller overall number of Pokemon, RBY were the most difficult games to "Catch them all" in. (Nom: DomaDragoon, 521, Ulti) (Denom: whatisurnameplz)
Reaction images do not belong on Board 8 (Nom: Ulti, paerarru; Denom: mnkboy)
Rocket Power was a good cartoon show (Nom: Ulti)
The Office (UK) > The Office (US) (Nom: Ulti)
+10 more...

Two
You would rather see a Final Fantasy crossover RPG than a 3rd Dissidia game. (Nom: Doma, Ulti)
Extra Credits > Zero Punctuation (Nom: Doma, Ulti)
There's nothing wrong with using built-in cheat codes for single player games. (Nom: Doma, Ulti)
The game that you considered to be your favorite 5 years ago is still your favorite. (Nom: DomaDragoon, Ulti)
Murder can be Utilitarianism (Nom: crazyisgood, Ulti)
Phineas & Ferb > My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (Nom: Natwaf_akidna, Ulti)
Donkey Kong 64 >= Banjo-Kazooie (Noms: DomaDragoon, Ulti)
Super DX-Ball is the best breakout game ever made (Nom:Emporer_Kazbar, Ulti)
People who combo breaker should be banned from the internet (Nom: Shados, Ulti)
+13 more...

One
In a fight with no weapons, an astronaut would beat a caveman (Nom: Anagram)
On average, Roger Moore had the best Bond Girls. (Nom: Doma)
None of your personal top 10 games of all time have ever been on a Sega console. (Nom: Doma)
GameFAQs has horrible taste in games. (Nom: LMS)
America will have another Black President before it has a Female President (Nom: VeryInsane)
Dragon Quest VIII is the only amazing game in the series (Nom: Real Truth)
Resident Evil 4 was the best GameCube game. (Nom: LMS)
Civilization IV is the best turn-based strategy game. (Nom: LMS)
Chronic will always be the AoD guy, no matter how long Zach hosts. (Nom: ctes)
+2 more...

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GuessMyUserName
06/29/11 11:36:00 AM
#3:


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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voltch
06/29/11 11:36:00 AM
#4:


A

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charmander6000
06/29/11 11:36:00 AM
#5:


Disagree

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Swifticuffs
06/29/11 11:37:00 AM
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Raka_Putra
06/29/11 11:39:00 AM
#7:


What are some of his nominations?

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crazyisgood
06/29/11 11:40:00 AM
#8:


Disagree. I see no reason to ban anyone unless they break rules

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KingButz
06/29/11 11:40:00 AM
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agree on principle

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Zachnorn
06/29/11 11:43:00 AM
#10:


What are some of his nominations?

His nominations that have not yet been done can be found here (ctrl-F "LMS"):

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19449924/AoD/AoDnoms.txt

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Raka_Putra
06/29/11 11:46:00 AM
#11:


Umm...
I don't see anything inherently wrong, even if some of them maybe a bit controversial.

So D.

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Theon_Greyjoy
06/29/11 11:49:00 AM
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Agree

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mnkboy907
06/29/11 11:51:00 AM
#13:


Agree, simply because of things like nomming both "Melee is the best Smash Bros. game" AND "Brawl is the worst Smash Bros. game". That's just unnecessary.

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XIII_rocks
06/29/11 11:51:00 AM
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He has made a lot of bad noms. But...I don't know, I would rather not persecute someone like that. It's not like he's deliberately nominating bad stuff in order to troll AoD.

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GuessMyUserName
06/29/11 11:52:00 AM
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From: Raka_Putra | Posted: 6/29/2011 2:46:00 PM | #011
Umm...
I don't see anything inherently wrong, even if some of them maybe a bit controversial.


nothing IS controversial at all

he just noms a LOOOOT of ****ty stuff nobody cares about, quite often inequality stuff, and quite often incredibly similar to his other noms.

Metroid Prime > Ocarina of Time
Metroid Prime > Super Mario Galaxy
Wii > N64
GC > N64
Twilight Princess > Ocarina of Time
Link to the Past > Ocarina of Time
Okami > Ocarina of Time
Okami > Twilight Princess
Super Mario 64 is the best Mario Platformer
Super Mario 64 is the best N64 game
Resident Evil 4 was the best GameCube game.
Resident Evil 4 is superior to any Metal Gear Solid game
Chrono Trigger > any Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy VI > Any Zelda game

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Lightning Strikes
06/29/11 11:55:00 AM
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Hmm, A.

Those noms are fine in small doses, but he does them to the point of spam, intentional or otherwise.

Honestly he might have one nom that is just "LMS's gaming opinions>conflicting gaming opinions".

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Theon_Greyjoy
06/29/11 11:56:00 AM
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GuessMyUserName posted...
From: Raka_Putra | Posted: 6/29/2011 2:46:00 PM | #011
Umm...
I don't see anything inherently wrong, even if some of them maybe a bit controversial.
nothing IS controversial at all

he just noms a LOOOOT of ****ty stuff nobody cares about, quite often inequality stuff, and quite often incredibly similar to his other noms.

Metroid Prime > Ocarina of Time
Metroid Prime > Super Mario Galaxy
Wii > N64
GC > N64
Twilight Princess > Ocarina of Time
Link to the Past > Ocarina of Time
Okami > Ocarina of Time
Okami > Twilight Princess
Super Mario 64 is the best Mario Platformer
Super Mario 64 is the best N64 game
Resident Evil 4 was the best GameCube game.
Resident Evil 4 is superior to any Metal Gear Solid game
Chrono Trigger > any Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy VI > Any Zelda game


Like I've said before, as obsessed as this guy is with video games, it's surprising how few he's played. He's probably played no more than 4 or 5 of these games.

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todbot1
06/29/11 11:58:00 AM
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Disagree

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GenesisSaga
06/29/11 12:02:00 PM
#19:


Disagree

LMS doesn't need to be banned, BUT he needs to be limited to one nomination per topic. It really is unfair to everyone involved that one person can intentionally spam a list with bad/uninteresting/inane nominations three times faster than another person can denominate them. As such a limit would force him to actually think about his nomination rather than typing out the first moronic thing that comes to his mind.

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VeryInsane
06/29/11 12:02:00 PM
#20:


I think he just needs to make better judgement with his noms. And think about how most of them are just the same as others. (Maybe also not just limit them to video games?)

So... Disagree, for now. I know it's controversial, but... I think if he understands how people feel about them, he might change them.

Nominate...

America will have another Black President before it has a Female President. (Not sure if you counted this one from last AOD)
The Chappelle Show would be the Best Show on Comedy Central Today if it wasn't cancelled.

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KamikazePotato
06/29/11 12:04:00 PM
#21:


A

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Zachnorn
06/29/11 12:07:00 PM
#22:


America will have another Black President before it has a Female President. (Not sure if you counted this one from last AOD)

I did. Not sure why my program put it in the middle instead of higher up. It's something I'll check on, though!

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Djungelurban
06/29/11 12:07:00 PM
#23:


Disagree...

He might make crappy noms, but he still needs another four people to support his crappy noms so those people would be equally at fault...

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GuessMyUserName
06/29/11 12:09:00 PM
#24:


From: VeryInsane | Posted: 6/29/2011 3:02:43 PM | #020
I think if he understands how people feel about them, he might change them.


he's commented on how much people hate his noms before

in fact he said he'd stop after a certain nom gets in


but he never stopped

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Regaro_Ukiera
06/29/11 2:09:00 PM
#26:


Agree, close

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-FFDragon-
06/29/11 2:10:00 PM
#27:


Ed Bellis makes a compelling argument.

Agree.

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LeonhartFour
06/29/11 2:11:00 PM
#28:


Agree

Because Zach won't actually do anything to limit/remove bad nominations because he apparently doesn't want to hurt anybody's feelings, regardless of what he actually says.

And because, regardless of the nomination system in place, we don't need a nomination list full of inequalities involving popular Nintendo games.

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Azp2k32
06/29/11 2:11:00 PM
#29:


Agree

Denom:
Metroid: Other M > Duke Nukem Forever (Nom: LMS)

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Zachnorn
06/29/11 2:14:00 PM
#30:


Because Zach won't actually do anything to limit/remove bad nominations because he apparently doesn't want to hurt anybody's feelings, regardless of what he actually says.

You don't remember when I cleaned some of the nominations before? I'm disappointed :(

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The Real Truth
06/29/11 2:14:00 PM
#31:


Agree. Those things are terrible.

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Bidoofaphilia
06/29/11 2:14:00 PM
#32:


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Liquid Wind
06/29/11 2:15:00 PM
#33:


agree
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GuessMyUserName
06/29/11 2:15:00 PM
#34:


also aww yeah this is my first nommed aod


also Denom:
Metroid: Other M > Duke Nukem Forever

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-FFDragon-
06/29/11 2:15:00 PM
#35:


Denom:
Metroid: Other M > Duke Nukem Forever

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OmarsComin
06/29/11 2:16:00 PM
#36:


His nominations that have not yet been done can be found here (ctrl-F "LMS"):

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19449924/AoD/AoDnoms.txt


so I only checked the first 10 or so but I'm noticing that Ulti is part of all of them

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RayDyn
06/29/11 2:16:00 PM
#37:


D

Nom
In a fight with no weapons, an astronaut would beat a caveman

I take it I wasn't clear about nom'ing it last topic.

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LeonhartFour
06/29/11 2:17:00 PM
#38:


I think the only noms you've actually done anything about are ones that could potentially get the topic modded.

But you seem reluctant to institute any sort of control over this thing on your own, and the only reason I can figure is that you don't want anyone to get mad at you.

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voltch
06/29/11 2:20:00 PM
#39:


Ulti is eviiiiiiiiiiil.

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VintageGin
06/29/11 2:21:00 PM
#40:


Agree

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Zachnorn
06/29/11 2:29:00 PM
#41:


I think the only noms you've actually done anything about are ones that could potentially get the topic modded.

Actually, a few months ago, there was an AoD topic where I made a list of nominations that might be removed, unless people gave me a reason to keep them. I admit that I haven't been doing this consistently, since I've only done it once! But as I said, I am planning to do it again at some point.

But you seem reluctant to institute any sort of control over this thing on your own, and the only reason I can figure is that you don't want anyone to get mad at you.

It's partly because I am lazy about it, mainly because with the changes to nominations. 5 people at minimum must nominate a topic for it to get in. The only issue now is with the high amount of total nominations, which I've developed a solution for that will mainly show those nominations if you click a link instead of me splitting it into 3 parts.

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RevolverSaro
06/29/11 2:30:00 PM
#42:


D
I didn't notice any nominations that were too bad. And in any case, him and Ulti nominate many of the same things. Therefore if you're going to ban LMS, you should ban Ulti as well

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GuessMyUserName
06/29/11 2:33:00 PM
#43:


Ulti also was apart of making and noming tons of LMS "mock" noms

pretty sure he's intentionally nomming crap

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LeonhartFour
06/29/11 2:33:00 PM
#44:


Ulti nominates LMS's stuff because he knows we find his noms annoying.

So it's just Ulti trolling by nominating topics we hate.

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Chrono1219
06/29/11 2:36:00 PM
#45:


Agree

when you have to like promote denoming his noms, that's when you get into banning talks.

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tcaz2
06/29/11 2:37:00 PM
#46:


Agreed

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Gatarix
06/29/11 2:37:00 PM
#47:


Second voltch's nom:
Ulti is eviiiiiiiiiiil.


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LeonhartFour
06/29/11 2:39:00 PM
#48:


From: Gatarix | #047
Second voltch's nom:
Ulti is eviiiiiiiiiiil.


Third'd.

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-FFDragon-
06/29/11 2:40:00 PM
#49:


LeonhartFour posted...
From: Gatarix | #047
Second voltch's nom:
Ulti is eviiiiiiiiiiil.
Third'd.


Fourth'd

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GuessMyUserName
06/29/11 2:43:00 PM
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From: -FFDragon- | Posted: 6/29/2011 5:40:00 PM | #049
LeonhartFour posted...
From: Gatarix | #047
Second voltch's nom:
Ulti is eviiiiiiiiiiil.
Third'd.


Fourth'd


Fifth'd

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