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Biolizard28
07/28/11 9:40:00 PM
#1:


http://www.giantbomb.com/catherine/61-32367/reviews/

By Giant Bomb's (And Jeff's) standards, Catherine is approximately as good as Duke Nukem forever.

So wrong.

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baron von toast
07/28/11 9:43:00 PM
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The big issues with Catherine are that the gameplay of block puzzles gets old fast

But that's wrong.

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TheCodeisBosco
07/28/11 9:52:00 PM
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Giant Bomb is kind of like the Armond White of game review sites. If they don't like a game, chances are it rocks.

Granted, I haven't played Catherine yet; but in the past, I've found myself disagreeing with GB's reviews almost every time.

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Leebo86
07/28/11 9:56:00 PM
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I thought the block puzzles would get old, but there are really a lot of cool/weird/fun block types.

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Biolizard28
07/28/11 9:57:00 PM
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With Giant Bomb I usually find that either their reviews are spot on or the complete opposite of what I believe.

Leebo86 posted...
I thought the block puzzles would get old, but there are really a lot of cool/weird/fun block types.

Yeah, all things considered, they did a great job of keeping things fresh. I never felt like I was solving the same puzzle twice or more like the review seems to imply.

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Xiahou Shake
07/28/11 9:57:00 PM
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From: baron von toast | #002
The big issues with Catherine are that the gameplay of block puzzles gets old fast


Haha what
Edit: I'm usually the last guy to go this route, but I wonder if he actually means "Getting my ass kicked by block puzzles gets old fast." Going by the Quick Looks I've seen, Jeff... isn't very good at video games. >_>

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KimPilgrim
07/28/11 9:58:00 PM
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From: TheCodeisBosco | #004
Giant Bomb is kind of like the Armond White of game review sites. If they don't like a game, chances are it rocks.




Alright I disagree with them about Catherine (Jeff is the only one who has played it so far there based on the Bombcast), but is this a joke?

Giant Bomb is indisputably the best and most reliable gaming site on the web. They have no equal. Hell, nothing else even comes CLOSE.

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StealThisSheen
07/28/11 10:02:00 PM
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TheCodeisBosco posted...
Giant Bomb is kind of like the Armond White of game review sites. If they don't like a game, chances are it rocks.

Granted, I haven't played Catherine yet; but in the past, I've found myself disagreeing with GB's reviews almost every time.



Are you sure you don't mean Destructoid.



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KimPilgrim
07/28/11 10:03:00 PM
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Now Jim Sterling, yeah, that ****er is literally Armond White.

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Big Bob
07/28/11 10:09:00 PM
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It's one review. One guy said he didn't like it. So what?

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TheCodeisBosco
07/28/11 10:10:00 PM
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KimPilgrim posted...
From: TheCodeisBosco | #004
Giant Bomb is kind of like the Armond White of game review sites. If they don't like a game, chances are it rocks.


Alright I disagree with them about Catherine (Jeff is the only one who has played it so far there based on the Bombcast), but is this a joke?

Giant Bomb is indisputably the best and most reliable gaming site on the web. They have no equal. Hell, nothing else even comes CLOSE.


...actually, you're kind of right: I dun goofed on this one. >_> Upon going to check out the review, I realized that I confused GB with Edge, for whatever reason. It's been a long day.

Giant Bomb - the real Giant Bomb - isn't one of the sites I agree with most by any means, but our opinions line up reasonably often. But Edge? Yeah, Armond White runs that, I guarantee it.

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KimPilgrim
07/28/11 10:16:00 PM
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Oh man, Edge USED to be so good. A minimum of one full page for every game, no numerical score attached. They had a huge 3 page spread for their DMC3 review.

Then they started giving out numbers and everything else changed and it turned to garbage.

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The Real Truth
07/28/11 10:28:00 PM
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Did Giantbomb take down their review of Nier after learning they were wrong about how fishing works?

Because I can't find it on Youtube.

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The Real Truth
07/28/11 10:29:00 PM
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Oh maybe that was Joystiq oh man

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Sorozone
07/28/11 10:29:00 PM
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The puzzles are actually quite addicting, I basically just spent 2 hours just now trying to improve my scores.
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TheCodeisBosco
07/28/11 10:30:00 PM
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KimPilgrim posted...
Oh man, Edge USED to be so good. A minimum of one full page for every game, no numerical score attached. They had a huge 3 page spread for their DMC3 review.

Then they started giving out numbers and everything else changed and it turned to garbage.


I wasn't familiar with Edge back in its "glory days," but from what I've seen, they have a tendency to severely underrate games that bring new things to the table, while heaping praise onto uninspired sequels and the like. My favorite games tend to be of the quirky variety - Plants vs. Zombies, Contact, NiGHTS Into Dreams, etc. - so naturally, Edge's reviews typically don't impress me.

Though for what it's worth, they did give PVZ a 9/10, so maybe they're not as bad as I thought. :P

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Xiahou Shake
07/28/11 10:31:00 PM
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From: Sorozone | #015
The puzzles are actually quite addicting, I basically just spent 2 hours just now trying to improve my scores.


I would be doing this all day if I wasn't so hooked by the story.

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KimPilgrim
07/28/11 10:31:00 PM
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From: The Real Truth | #014
Oh maybe that was Joystiq oh man


The original



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GANON1025
07/28/11 10:32:00 PM
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Biolizard28 posted...
http://www.giantbomb.com/catherine/61-32367/reviews/

By Giant Bomb's (And Jeff's) standards, Catherine is approximately as good as Duke Nukem forever.

So wrong.


Jeff was against reviews using number ratings when they started Giant Bomb for almost this exact reason.

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The Real Truth
07/28/11 10:32:00 PM
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KimPilgrim posted...
From: The Real Truth | #014
Oh maybe that was Joystiq oh man
The original



THE IMPROVED



Yeah I saw both. I crack up every time man.

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Xiahou Shake
07/28/11 10:33:00 PM
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Nier has caused me to pretty much COMPLETELY ignore reviews. I never took them too seriously before, but I'll never trust a reviewer to tell me a game is bad after Nier turned out to be so incredible.

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Biolizard28
07/28/11 10:35:00 PM
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GANON1025 posted...
Jeff was against reviews using number ratings when they started Giant Bomb for almost this exact reason.

Maybe he should have stuck to his convictions then, because it's all I can think about.

I mean, goddamn.

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GANON1025
07/28/11 10:37:00 PM
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But review scores are too important to the industry, it was necessary for them to use them.

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The Real Truth
07/28/11 10:40:00 PM
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I pay attention to average of user written reviews. I find them to be much more useful, since you know, they're free. These "professional" reviewers are paid off, and all they do is give their opinion. Stopped caring after God Hand got a 3 from IGN.

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GANON1025
07/28/11 10:42:00 PM
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Giant Bomb in the pocket of big casual games

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TheRock1525
07/28/11 11:05:00 PM
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I care less about numbers and s*** and more about the content of the review.

I don't discredit all reviewers. But s*** like this:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/118/1180281p1.html

I ignore. 4 paragraphs that say largely nothing. That's not a review.

But mainly I go with Gametrailers. They seem to do a good job with this.

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TheCodeisBosco
07/28/11 11:10:00 PM
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The Real Truth posted...
I pay attention to average of user written reviews. I find them to be much more useful, since you know, they're free. These "professional" reviewers are paid off, and all they do is give their opinion. Stopped caring after God Hand got a 3 from IGN.

I think that God Hand review might be the most maligned review in the history of the medium. At least now that the "Twilight Princess 8.8" thing has cooled down, anyway!

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TheRock1525
07/28/11 11:10:00 PM
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And keep in mind at the end of the day it's a person's personal opinion on the matter. People get so up in arms for someone giving a good/bad score to something, but really the whole point of a game reviewer isn't to express the majority opinion, it's to express his opinion based on what his set criteria is for a good game and explain in a well-written/spoken manner what makes this a good/bad game.

If someone gives something a 4.5 out of 10, I'm more concerned with the why than the number. The number is meaningless without context.

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