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saspa
03/30/17 4:58:35 PM
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Or across a generations thing, with this guy's descendants destined to fight that guy's descendants, that sort of thing. Makes it sound like choice and nature/nurture are not in one's control but "fate" or "destiny"
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Pepys Monster
03/30/17 5:01:42 PM
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But it was funny when Scott Evil became evil.
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saspa
03/30/17 5:22:03 PM
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darkphoenix181
03/30/17 5:23:05 PM
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so you hate star wars?
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saspa
03/30/17 5:26:38 PM
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I nothing star wars
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ShinigamiSoul
03/30/17 5:29:28 PM
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I guess all the decedents are raised and taught to fight/hate the other group.

You could say that a similar thing exists today.
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saspa
04/01/17 6:44:58 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
I guess all the decedents are raised and taught to fight/hate the other group.

how can they be raised if they're already dead?
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ghettoraider81
04/01/17 6:52:22 AM
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saspa posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
I guess all the decedents are raised and taught to fight/hate the other group.

how can they be raised if they're already dead?



What? Decendants come after, ancestors would be already dead.
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hollow_shrine
04/01/17 6:53:17 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
I guess all the decedents are raised and taught to fight/hate the other group.

You could say that a similar thing exists today.

Stories about a cycle of hate are one thing, but it sounds like TC is talking about straight up moral biological determinism. Uncritical portrayals of that are kind of socially toxic because they immediately remind people of cultures who actively apply those kinds of filters to minority groups as justifications for why those groups suffer from more social problems ("they're just born that way).
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Dash_Harber
04/01/17 7:14:45 AM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
so you hate star wars?


Umm ... sort of the exact opposite thing happens in Star Wars.

Anyway, I hate that too. It always reeks of some poor attempt to carry on the colonial tradition of 'some people are born evil and it's our right to beat them down until they stop'.
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COVxy
04/01/17 7:17:37 AM
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I can't think of a single movie like this, tbh.
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3rd_Best_Master
04/01/17 7:34:08 AM
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COVxy posted...
I can't think of a single movie like this, tbh.

There's some witch movie I saw a bit of where this plays pretty heavily into the plot. Where after a certain age a witch will become either a good witch or a bad witch is entirely out of their control and the transformation even radically alters their personality to match the alignment shift, no matter what they previously thought of that alignment beforehand.
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visiny
04/03/17 6:47:15 AM
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^ ^ which movie?
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Cookie Bag
04/03/17 6:49:28 AM
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But Alucard is a good guy and he's the son of Dracula
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saspa
04/03/17 12:57:12 PM
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FroMan
04/03/17 1:05:43 PM
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What do you mean when you say the word evil? Is evil a quality a person attains after they've committed heinous acts, or is evil an innate quality that predisposes a person towards committing heinous acts? If the latter, how would it be different than a brain disorder such as sociopathy?
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RunAwayCaterpie
04/03/17 1:07:30 PM
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COVxy posted...
I can't think of a single movie like this, tbh.

Harry Potter and the lost child.
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saspa
04/05/17 6:14:11 AM
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FroMan posted...
What do you mean when you say the word evil? Is evil a quality a person attains after they've committed heinous acts, or is evil an innate quality that predisposes a person towards committing heinous acts? If the latter, how would it be different than a brain disorder such as sociopathy?

It's whoever the government and tv tells me are the evil bad guys eg the russians in the 80s, arabs in the 2000s, etc etc

*is typical american*
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ghettoraider81
04/05/17 4:11:12 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
COVxy posted...
I can't think of a single movie like this, tbh.

There's some witch movie I saw a bit of where this plays pretty heavily into the plot. Where after a certain age a witch will become either a good witch or a bad witch is entirely out of their control and the transformation even radically alters their personality to match the alignment shift, no matter what they previously thought of that alignment beforehand.




I remember this movie, Jeremy Irons was the father. Can't remember the name.


Got it, Beautiful Creatures.
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saspa
04/07/17 6:16:55 AM
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Oh wow that really was a movie. I didn't think it to be true.
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