Poll of the Day > I don't understand why liberals want Trump to get impeached so much.

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shipwreckers
04/01/17 8:51:05 PM
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If he's removed from office, Pence would take his place (which would make any struggle liberals have 10x harder). It's not like getting rid of him would somehow put Hillary (or any other liberal) in power. The election is over, and she is done. Also, Pence is a freakin boy scout, politically speaking. It's going to be MUCH more difficult to trap him in an endless slew of scandals like the media has done with Trump.

Until a new presidential ticket happens, Trump needs to stay right where he is if the liberal ways of life are to persist. So, why the hell are people so dead set on getting him impeached???
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faramir77
04/01/17 8:52:22 PM
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Hillary isn't a liberal.
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Tardis2015
04/01/17 8:57:56 PM
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because Liberals hate Trump and can't stand him.
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Zeus
04/01/17 9:01:22 PM
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faramir77 posted...
Hillary isn't a liberal.


She is a liberal. The fact that's she's to the right of Bernie doesn't magically make her conservative. She's anti-gun, she's strongly pro-government, pro-welfare, pro-every SJW cause and then some, for larger taxes, pro-immigration, etc. The only real conservative area is on foreign trade where she favors the kind of open trade opposed by unions because it undercuts US labor.

Zangulus posted...
Oh, maybe for the possibility of him and his administration committing various forms of treason. You know, that whole reason a person being impeached is that they committed a crime and thus made them unsuitable for office.


Which is silly because the treason charges are never going to go anywhere. In the history of this country, only a handful of people have ever been charged with treason and they were in very narrow cases.

However, in general, it's always possible that a VP could resign after a president. It's why Spiro Agnew was never president.
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shipwreckers
04/01/17 9:03:26 PM
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Zangulus posted...
shipwreckers posted...
If he's removed from office, Pence would take his place (which would make any struggle liberals have 10x harder). It's not like getting rid of him would somehow put Hillary (or any other liberal) in power. The election is over, and she is done. Also, Pence is a freakin boy scout, politically speaking. It's going to be MUCH more difficult to trap him in an endless slew of scandals like the media has done with Trump.

Until a new presidential ticket happens, Trump needs to stay right where he is if the liberal ways of life are to persist. So, why the hell are people so dead set on getting him impeached???


Oh, maybe for the possibility of him and his administration committing various forms of treason. You know, that whole reason a person being impeached is that they committed a crime and thus made them unsuitable for office.


Well, that's the general rationale behind ANY impeachment (including Bill Clinton's back in the day, though he wasn't removed from office). But, we're not at that point yet. Heck..., the recently fired Flynn (who would be the backbone of this investigation) hasn't even had a Senate hearing about it yet (and may not at all). So wishing impeachment on Trump at this point is merely stemming from ill-will, not actual evidence of possible treason.

Of course, if this Senate hearing ever goes through, these things may change, and your statement will have much more weight to the situation.
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Flyingpirate
04/01/17 9:53:29 PM
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Tardis2015 posted...
because Liberals hate Trump and can't stand him.

This one weird trick he used to get elected!
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Mead
04/01/17 10:04:36 PM
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If he colluded with another country in an effort to get elected, is there an argument that he should not be impeached?

If he did nothing of the sort then an investigation should be an open and shut case and then he can really get to work with his presidency.
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Erik_P
04/01/17 10:08:01 PM
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Pence is knee deep in the Russia collusion. You think he didn't know Flynn was acting as a foreign agent? You think he knew nothing about Manafort's shady dealings? Manafort recommended Pence to Trump.

When this is all said and done Pence is going down for treason as well. We might just wind up with Paul Ryan as president. Maybe even Orrin Hatch.
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bulbinking
04/02/17 3:18:29 AM
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Erik_P posted...
Pence is knee deep in the Russia collusion. You think he didn't know Flynn was acting as a foreign agent? You think he knew nothing about Manafort's shady dealings? Manafort recommended Pence to Trump.

When this is all said and done Pence is going down for treason as well. We might just wind up with Paul Ryan as president. Maybe even Orrin Hatch.


You know the clintons were working with a russian firm to sell them our uranium? If anything shillary is even closer to russian business interests than people claim trump is.
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Smarkil
04/02/17 3:47:33 AM
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Mead posted...
If he did nothing of the sort then an investigation should be an open and shut case and then he can really get to work with his presidency.


Yeah I'm sure the other side is just gonna shut up about him and let him go about his business.
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SunWuKung420
04/02/17 3:54:49 AM
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We don't we want the whole presidency and cabinet removed safety.
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ColbyRasmus
04/02/17 3:57:46 AM
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If Trump and company were found to be colluding with Russia (I don't think Trump actually did this), wouldn't the entire election be thrown out? I have no idea how it would work constitutionally; would there be another election? If the Republican ticket cheated their way to the top, why would they get rid of Trump and then hand Pence the baton? Why wouldn't the Republicans (or Democrats, for that matter) just cheat again, as long as their party was in power?
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Erik_P
04/02/17 10:42:30 AM
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bulbinking posted...
Erik_P posted...
Pence is knee deep in the Russia collusion. You think he didn't know Flynn was acting as a foreign agent? You think he knew nothing about Manafort's shady dealings? Manafort recommended Pence to Trump.

When this is all said and done Pence is going down for treason as well. We might just wind up with Paul Ryan as president. Maybe even Orrin Hatch.


You know the clintons were working with a russian firm to sell them our uranium? If anything shillary is even closer to russian business interests than people claim trump is.


I didn't know you were nothing more than a parrot of Trump. It's nothing more than bullshit to distract from Trump's collusion with Russia. But here's a link debunking that garbage:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/mar/28/fact-checking-donald-trumps-tweets-about-hillary-c/

In 2010, Hillary Clinton, as secretary of state, was one of nine federal agency heads to sign off on Russia’s purchase of a controlling stake in Uranium One, an international mining company headquartered in Canada with operations in several U.S. states. It was part of a regular process for approving international deals involving strategic assets, such as uranium, that could have implications for national security. Uranium One’s U.S. mines produced about 11 percent of the country’s total uranium production in 2014, according to Oilprice.com


As PolitiFact and others have detailed, some investors with an interest in making the Uranium One deal go through have a long-time relationship with Bill Clinton and have donated to the Clinton Foundation. But there’s no concrete evidence those relationships or donations helped make the deal go through. Most of the donations occurred before Hillary Clinton could have known she would become secretary of state. And again, the secretary of state was one of nine agency heads that had input into the final decision, which ultimately lay with President Barack Obama.

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slacker03150
04/02/17 11:28:32 AM
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I will agree pence is as bad if not worse than trump on policies, but he would have more sense than trump on wasting tax payer money on a winter white house, letting the guy carrying the nuclear football have his picture taken with guests and any policies he is feeding trump from behind the scenes would be directly attributed to him instead.

Also I beleive if Trump got impeached, Pence's actions would be more heavily scrutinized.
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bulbinking
04/02/17 2:03:17 PM
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Erik_P posted...
But there’s no concrete evidence those relationships or donations helped make the deal go through.


Just like there is no concrete evidence trump colluded with russia on anything having to do with winning the election?

Well innocent until proven guilty, right erik? RIIIIGHT ERIK?

p.s. I didn't even know trump talked about this. I have been following the clintons for awhile now and you need to read up on some wikileaks if you think they are above the level when it comes to following laws. Or did you listen to CNN when they said it was illegal to do so?
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DirtBasedSoap
04/02/17 2:22:31 PM
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does pence really think you can 'pray the gay away'? someone told me that recently.
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deoxxys
04/02/17 4:55:07 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
does pence really think you can 'pray the gay away'? someone told me that recently.

I dunno, I only recently learned that he actually has never mentioned electrotherapy for gays
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Mead
04/02/17 4:56:52 PM
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Smarkil posted...
Mead posted...
If he did nothing of the sort then an investigation should be an open and shut case and then he can really get to work with his presidency.


Yeah I'm sure the other side is just gonna shut up about him and let him go about his business.


The thing is though is that if an investigation comes up with nothing then the other side looks like a bunch of asshats.

Just like republicans do in hindsight with Benghazi.
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bulbinking
04/02/17 4:57:44 PM
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deoxxys posted...
DirtBasedSoap posted...
does pence really think you can 'pray the gay away'? someone told me that recently.

I dunno, I only recently learned that he actually has never mentioned electrotherapy for gays


Honesty has never been a tenant of the left.

I would rather a right winger honest about who they want to persecute, an a leftist that keeps changing policies on who to persecute depending on what gets them the most popularity.
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DrBoneCrusher
04/02/17 7:40:01 PM
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Pence is worse than Trump.
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Erik_P
04/02/17 7:45:16 PM
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bulbinking posted...
deoxxys posted...
DirtBasedSoap posted...
does pence really think you can 'pray the gay away'? someone told me that recently.

I dunno, I only recently learned that he actually has never mentioned electrotherapy for gays


Honesty has never been a tenant of the left.

I would rather a right winger honest about who they want to persecute, an a leftist that keeps changing policies on who to persecute depending on what gets them the most popularity.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I noticed that the right loves accusing the other side of being the thing the right does.

"The left love taking away people's rights." Meanwhile, the right is attempting to take away people's health insurance, women's ability to make health decisions, voter suppression among a whole host of other things.

"The left are liars." Meanwhile, we have a Republican president who doesn't know how to do anything but lie.
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Claude_Frollo
04/02/17 7:46:13 PM
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Erik_P posted...
bulbinking posted...
deoxxys posted...
DirtBasedSoap posted...
does pence really think you can 'pray the gay away'? someone told me that recently.

I dunno, I only recently learned that he actually has never mentioned electrotherapy for gays


Honesty has never been a tenant of the left.

I would rather a right winger honest about who they want to persecute, an a leftist that keeps changing policies on who to persecute depending on what gets them the most popularity.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I noticed that the right loves accusing the other side of being the thing the right does.

"The left love taking away people's rights." Meanwhile, the right is attempting to take away people's health insurance, women's ability to make health decisions, voter suppression among a whole host of other things.

"The left are liars." Meanwhile, we have a Republican president who doesn't know how to do anything but lie.


Stop arguing with bulbinking, he's a known troll.

Oh, wait, you're a known troll too. Err... carry on.
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bulbinking
04/02/17 7:50:13 PM
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Nobody is owed somebody taking care of them who isnt part of their family. Health insurance is NOT a right.
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Kyuubi4269
04/02/17 7:56:13 PM
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Erik_P posted...
the right is attempting to take away people's health insurance

Removing a government liability impeding government freedom (and not taking away people's right to get health insurance).

Erik_P posted...
women's ability to make health decisions

Pro-life are all right-wing, right-wing aren't all pro-life.

Erik_P posted...
voter suppression

When?

Erik_P posted...
"The left are liars." Meanwhile, we have a Republican president who doesn't know how to do anything but lie.

Trump is the most honest "politician" in a long time and politicians as a whole are liars so inherently that includes the left (and the right).
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wah_wah_wah
04/02/17 7:58:07 PM
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I can accept Pence even though I disagree with him politically. He comes from differing beliefs, but the important thing is he has actual beliefs. Whereas the President strikes me as an opportunist in over his head, and someone not at all interested in governing the country as much as using the institution of the presidency to build his corporate brand.
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Erik_P
04/02/17 7:59:43 PM
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When?


Gerrymandering state districts and wanting voter ID laws immediately come to mind.

Trump is the most honest "politician" in a long time and politicians as a whole are liars so inherently that includes the left (and the right).


I'm gonna go ahead and assume you forgot a "/s" at the end of that. Also he is a politician because he's President so I dunno why you put that in quotes.
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bulbinking
04/02/17 8:34:06 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Gerrymandering state districts


This has always been a thing for both sides.

Also, it was invented by a democrat.

The only reason Clinton won as many delegates as s did was from gerrymandering btw, look it up.

Erik_P posted...
wanting voter ID laws


Has nothing to do with voter suppression, and everything to do with preventing non-citizens from affecting our nations politics. Just because you live here doesn't mean you get a say in what happens. Its always been the leftists using populist tactics to gain political advantage. ALWAYS.

Read a god damned history book will you?
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Shaneariffic
04/02/17 8:52:49 PM
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lol politics is so full of shit
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Erik_P
04/02/17 9:06:19 PM
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This has always been a thing for both sides.

Also, it was invented by a democrat.

The only reason Clinton won as many delegates as s did was from gerrymandering btw, look it up.


First, I looked up who invented gerrymandering.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

The word was created in reaction to a redrawing of Massachusetts state senate election districts under Governor Elbridge Gerry (pronounced /ˈɡɛri/; 1744–1814). In 1812, Governor Gerry signed a bill that redistricted Massachusetts to benefit his Democratic-Republican Party.


As you can see, the 2 parties were combined back then. I guess that explains why you never provide any proof for your claims; because you know you're full of shit. As for your 2nd claim, you could say the exact same thing about Trump; that the whole reason he won as many electoral votes is because of gerrymandering.

Has nothing to do with voter suppression, and everything to do with preventing non-citizens from affecting our nations politics. Just because you live here doesn't mean you get a say in what happens. Its always been the leftists using populist tactics to gain political advantage. ALWAYS.


Voter ID laws are in fact used to suppress voting. The people who most aren't able to get IDs are the elderly, poor and minorities. Non citizens don't vote; that's nothing more than fear mongering by Republicans to scare people into supporting their extremist policies. As for your "just because you live here" line, you should check out the Constitution.
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bulbinking
04/02/17 9:08:00 PM
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Erik_P posted...
As you can see, the 2 parties were combined back then.


You are trying to make me respond to you in a way to get banned, aren't you.
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Kyuubi4269
04/02/17 9:14:54 PM
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Erik_P posted...
The people who most aren't able to get IDs are the elderly, poor and minorities.

ID ain't that expensive.

Erik_P posted...
he is a politician because he's President so I dunno why you put that in quotes.

He's a business man voted in to a political position, he's no more a politician than Kanye. I at least used the world politician because he is in a political position, despite it not being representative of him.
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Kyuubi4269
04/02/17 9:17:36 PM
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Erik_P posted...
As you can see, the 2 parties were combined back then.

Are you claiming the Democratic people's Republic of Korea are combined democrats and republicans?
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yutterh
04/02/17 9:22:12 PM
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I want him impeached because i think 4 years of him will destroy this country. I also think that this is exactly what republicans felt about obama. Except obama didn't go around pissing off our allies.
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Erik_P
04/02/17 9:25:05 PM
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bulbinking posted...
Erik_P posted...
As you can see, the 2 parties were combined back then.


You are trying to make me respond to you in a way to get banned, aren't you.


I would be angry too if I was made to look like a fool. Maybe stop making shit up that can be easily debunked with facts.

ID ain't that expensive.


Tell that to the people who can't afford it.

He's a business man voted in to a political position, he's no more a politician than Kanye. I at least used the world politician because he is in a political position, despite it not being representative of him.


Kanye isn't President, Trump is. If you're President that makes you a politician. It doesn't matter he's a businessman.
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Kyuubi4269
04/02/17 9:35:36 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Tell that to the people who can't afford it.

The people who don't have it either have no use for it or can't legally have it. Everybody can afford it but a tonne of people would rather pizza.
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Kyuubi4269
04/02/17 9:38:23 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Kanye isn't President, Trump is. If you're President that makes you a politician. It doesn't matter he's a businessman.

Legally yes, principally no. Kanye is technically a political activist, but nobody considers him one.
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bulbinking
04/02/17 9:49:36 PM
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Erik_P posted...
I would be angry too if I was made to look like a fool. Maybe stop making s*** up that can be easily debunked with facts.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Are you claiming the Democratic people's Republic of Korea are combined democrats and republicans?

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Erik_P
04/02/17 9:57:49 PM
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bulbinking posted...
Erik_P posted...
I would be angry too if I was made to look like a fool. Maybe stop making s*** up that can be easily debunked with facts.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Are you claiming the Democratic people's Republic of Korea are combined democrats and republicans?


That came across as a poorly made joke.
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slacker03150
04/02/17 10:01:42 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Tell that to the people who can't afford it


*raises hand. I believe I am in that demographic. It is not that expensive, but it can be annoying.
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ecco6t9
04/03/17 2:13:10 AM
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Nothing a president has done has ever effected me personally. I have had more issues with my City Concuilman and Mayor than I have with any President.
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SmokeMassTree
04/03/17 4:48:22 AM
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ColbyRasmus posted...
If the Republican ticket cheated their way to the top, why would they get rid of Trump and then hand Pence the baton? Why wouldn't the Republicans (or Democrats, for that matter) just cheat again, as long as their party was in power?


You mean like Kilary did during the primaries?
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Mead
04/03/17 10:20:24 AM
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ecco6t9 posted...
Nothing a president has done has ever effected me personally. I have had more issues with my City Concuilman and Mayor than I have with any President.


Maybe not in any ways that are apparent to you
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Zareth
04/03/17 11:20:30 AM
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Impeaching Trump isn't going to make Pence any better, nor is it going to make Congress a Democrat majority.
America just has to suck it up for 4 years and think about what it did.
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Shiny_Vikavolt
04/03/17 11:28:34 AM
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I want trump to get impeached so that all the trump dick riders would shut up.
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Zareth
04/03/17 11:30:19 AM
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Shiny_Vikavolt posted...
I want trump to get impeached so that all the trump dick riders would shut up.

And be replaced by Pence dick riders.
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Mead
04/03/17 11:41:45 AM
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Zareth posted...
Impeaching Trump isn't going to make Pence any better, nor is it going to make Congress a Democrat majority.
America just has to suck it up for 4 years and think about what it did.


This is missing the point entirely. It isn't about trying to impeach him just for the sake of it. Anyone that actually feels that way is being petty and frankly moronic. There is an ongoing investigation to determine whether the man and individuals in his campaign committed what could be argued as treason.
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