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lilORANG
04/05/17 6:15:22 PM
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C/D (filler)


Is there a stronger reason to believe in one religion over another? Are they all equally false, or equally true?


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YourDrunkFather
04/05/17 6:16:37 PM
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They all suck. But Islam sucks the most
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FlashOfLight
04/05/17 6:17:08 PM
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Nah, no.
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Syncronous
04/05/17 6:17:33 PM
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Is Scientology considered a real religion? If so, there is an objectively correct answer to this.
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Lonestar2000
04/05/17 6:17:46 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
They all suck. But Islam sucks the most

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Nomadic View
04/05/17 6:17:56 PM
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What do you mean by "valid"?

The existence of my God verses the existence of your God?

Yeah, sure, they're equally valid.

The culture of my religion verses the culture of your religion?

No, some religious cultures are superior to others.
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Rikiaz
04/05/17 6:18:18 PM
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yes. They are all equally invalid.
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I_suk_at_golf
04/05/17 6:18:48 PM
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All fake.
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chill02
04/05/17 6:19:12 PM
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Syncronous posted...
Is Scientology considered a real religion? If so, there is an objectively correct answer to this.

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lilORANG
04/05/17 6:19:19 PM
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Syncronous posted...
Is Scientology considered a real religion? If so, there is an objectively correct answer to this.

I get the space alien angle, that could happen, but you think the bit about the nuclear dust being reborn as human souls or whatever isn't kinda goofy like stuff in other religions?
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ShinigamiSoul
04/05/17 6:19:41 PM
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Nope
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VectorChaos
04/05/17 6:23:03 PM
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They're all equally nonsense.

Islam really needs to be dragged kicking and screaming out of the dark ages tho.
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FroMan
04/05/17 6:24:58 PM
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They are all equally valid in the sense that they are each equally un-valid.
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unpleasant_milk
04/05/17 6:29:13 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
They all suck. But Islam sucks the most

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FlashOfLight
04/05/17 6:30:49 PM
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Lots of dissenting opinions on CE aboot this so far.
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IHeartRadiation
04/05/17 6:35:41 PM
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These topics are almost as boring as the political ones.
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lilORANG
04/05/17 6:36:09 PM
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IHeartRadiation posted...
These topics are almost as boring as the political ones.

is your name a play on IHeartRadio?
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thronedfire2
04/05/17 6:36:53 PM
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Rikiaz posted...
yes. They are all equally invalid.

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IHeartRadiation
04/05/17 6:38:10 PM
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lilORANG posted...
is your name a play on IHeartRadio?

Nope, came up with it about a year or so before I heard of them.
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_Near_
04/05/17 6:38:18 PM
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D.

The religion that makes the most falsifiable/unreasonable claim is the least valid.

Example:

Religion 1 says that the sun rises because God's chariot is pulling it across the sky.

Religion 2 says that God will bless you with happiness if you believe in Him, as He is full of love.

Religion 3 says that the God doesn't interfere with the human world or the universe for that matter, It just caused the universe to happen.

Religion 1 is the least valid, since it makes a claim that we know with good certainty to be false. Religion 2 is more nebulous, but still asserts the observable effect of a deity with human emotions on Earth - making an unsubstantiated claim that is probably man-made. Religion 3 is the most reasonable because the deity takes the role of the primordial force - an unmoved mover that sets in motion the chains of the universe. It doesn't ascribe any human characteristics to the deity and functions more as a philosophical axiom than a personal deity.
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lilORANG
04/05/17 6:40:15 PM
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_Near_ posted...
D.

The religion that makes the most falsifiable/unreasonable claim is the least valid.

Example:

Religion 1 says that the sun rises because God's chariot is pulling it across the sky.

Religion 2 says that God will bless you with happiness if you believe in Him, as he is full of love.

Religion 3 says that the God doesn't interfere with the human world or the universe for that matter, It just caused the universe to happen.

Religion 1 is the least valid, since it makes a claim that we know with good certainty to be false. Religion 2 is more nebulous, but still asserts the observable effect of a deity with human emotions on Earth - making an unsubstantiated claim that is probably man-made. Religion 3 is the most reasonable because the deity takes the role of the primordial force - an unmoved mover that sets in motions the chains of the universe. It doesn't ascribe any human characteristics to the deity and functions more as a philosophical axiom than a personal deity.

if all 3 rely on magic, are they not equally silly tho? Just because the 3rd religion's claim is less absurd doesn't mean it isn't premised on something impossible and nonsensical.
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lilORANG
04/05/17 6:40:30 PM
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IHeartRadiation posted...
lilORANG posted...
is your name a play on IHeartRadio?

Nope, came up with it about a year or so before I heard of them.

you should probably sue tbh.
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FlashOfLight
04/05/17 6:41:03 PM
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That was quite the breakdown, Near.
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CowboyDan
04/05/17 6:41:56 PM
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They all have the exact same amount of supporting evidence, that being literally none, so yes.
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Anteaterking
04/05/17 6:42:11 PM
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lilORANG posted...
I get the space alien angle, that could happen, but you think the bit about the nuclear dust being reborn as human souls or whatever isn't kinda goofy like stuff in other religions?


Some people disagree with this categorization, but I think religions that the founders don't believe in have less validity than others.

That's why even though the Flying Spaghetti Monster is funny and it's original purpose (teaching creative design in school is dumb) is valid, people who talk about being followers of the religion and act like it should socially be treated as being equal are wrong.
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YookaLaylee
04/05/17 6:42:56 PM
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FlashOfLight
04/05/17 6:44:02 PM
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CowboyDan posted...
They all have the exact same amount of supporting evidence, that being literally none, so yes.


Ouch!
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ShutTheHellUp
04/05/17 6:45:11 PM
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There is one religion that is worse than any of them.
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lilORANG
04/05/17 6:46:35 PM
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ShutTheHellUp posted...
There is one religion that is worse than any of them.

their shittiness and impact on the world has nothing to do with their validity tho
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_Near_
04/05/17 6:46:42 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Just because the 3rd religion's claim is less absurd doesn't mean it isn't premised on something impossible and nonsensical.


You said it yourself - it's less absurd. To me, that means it's more valid. I don't tend to look at things in a possible vs. impossible dichotomy. I like the probability scale more. How likely is it to exist? While 1 and 2 are highly unlikely in my view, 3 isn't too ridiculous. To ascribe the name "God" to the unknowable, extra-universal force that jump-started the universe doesn't seem that nonsensical to me. My thought process is that since I don't know, I'm not going to jump to conclusions so I choose to not actively believe in such a being - but I could certainly be convinced otherwise. Regarding 1 and 2, it'd be highly unlikely for me to agree that such beings exist.
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ShinigamiSoul
04/05/17 6:52:42 PM
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This subject eats at you quite a bit, huh TC
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lilORANG
04/05/17 6:53:41 PM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
This subject eats at you quite a bit, huh TC

anything for posts my man. I aint gonna deny it
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ThanksUglyGod
04/05/17 6:57:37 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
They all suck. But Scientology sucks the most
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Khalpz
04/05/17 6:59:31 PM
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Valid is kind of a dumb word for this.

Some are worse than others.
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lilORANG
04/05/17 6:59:53 PM
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Khalpz posted...
Valid is kind of a dumb word for this.

Some are worse than others.

i'm not asking which is worse
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hockeybub89
04/05/17 7:01:33 PM
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Islam is the most violent. Scientology is the biggest money scam/creepy cult. All are nonsense.
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Khalpz
04/05/17 7:26:47 PM
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Is there a stronger reason to believe in one religion over another?

Yes, there is a stronger reason to believe in the ones that aren't as bad. Like ones that treat people like shit, cover up crimes, or have been known to be shady financially.

Are they all equally false, or equally true?

They are all equally false. But I have no problem with peaceful believers.
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RickyTheBAWSE
04/05/17 7:27:59 PM
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they're equally invalid
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slothica
04/05/17 7:30:46 PM
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They're all equally cancerous.
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CowboyDan
04/05/17 7:31:05 PM
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Khalpz posted...
Is there a stronger reason to believe in one religion over another?

Yes, there is a stronger reason to believe in the ones that aren't as bad. Like ones that treat people like shit, cover up crimes, or have been known to be shady financially.

Are they all equally false, or equally true?

They are all equally false. But I have no problem with peaceful believers.

This doesn't have anything to do with validity.
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Dragonblade01
04/05/17 7:34:04 PM
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I imagine most religions that manage to stick around are all largely "valid," at least in a broad sense.

The problem is that none of them have been able to demonstrate the soundness of their claims and, depending on the religion, may never be able to.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/05/17 7:35:45 PM
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No.
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Airhammy
04/05/17 7:40:21 PM
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If a god actually existed there would be only one religion, or none at all.
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lilORANG
04/05/17 8:06:33 PM
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CowboyDan posted...
Khalpz posted...
Is there a stronger reason to believe in one religion over another?

Yes, there is a stronger reason to believe in the ones that aren't as bad. Like ones that treat people like shit, cover up crimes, or have been known to be shady financially.

Are they all equally false, or equally true?

They are all equally false. But I have no problem with peaceful believers.

This doesn't have anything to do with validity.

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Khalpz
04/05/17 8:07:35 PM
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CowboyDan posted...
Khalpz posted...
Is there a stronger reason to believe in one religion over another?

Yes, there is a stronger reason to believe in the ones that aren't as bad. Like ones that treat people like shit, cover up crimes, or have been known to be shady financially.

Are they all equally false, or equally true?

They are all equally false. But I have no problem with peaceful believers.

This doesn't have anything to do with validity.

Just answering the questions in the post.
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monkmith
04/05/17 8:08:56 PM
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nope, buddhism wins.
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Funkydog
04/05/17 8:09:42 PM
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FroMan posted...
They are all equally valid in the sense that they are each equally un-valid.

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Darklit_Minuet
04/05/17 8:14:04 PM
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Funkydog posted...
FroMan posted...
They are all equally valid in the sense that they are each equally un-valid.
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Pitlord_Special
04/05/17 8:23:44 PM
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Babylonian Paganism is the most valid because Marduk totally rules
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