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The_Office_pwnz
04/08/17 10:57:40 PM
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I'm 6 hours in and this crap is still in tutorial mode. Won't let me build skills or do anything the game promised. Since this is my first time doing this I can probably stand it, but I can't imagine ever playing this game a second time.
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Dash_Harber
04/08/17 10:59:16 PM
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Welcome to every modern JRPG ever!
*Cue "But it's narrative driven!" whining*
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The_Office_pwnz
04/08/17 11:04:53 PM
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I feel like this much handholding is really patronizing.
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04/08/17 11:05:49 PM
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JE19426
04/08/17 11:11:29 PM
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What part are you at 6 hours in? I'm pretty sure I got raise my skills and such by that point.
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obsolete
04/08/17 11:12:28 PM
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lol I was asking my friend that. He was 7 hours in and was getting tutorial hints I thought he just started
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UrCa1988
04/08/17 11:15:17 PM
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Yeah the tutorial is super long, but the game is still gonna have moments where you're not allowed to do what you want even after the tutorial is "done," that's just the way it is.
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darkprince45
04/08/17 11:16:06 PM
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Im having a blast, but i seriously cant see myself replaying this
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The_Office_pwnz
04/08/17 11:22:10 PM
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I was so set to love this too. the style is just so great and even catherine is in it.
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Kelystic
04/09/17 7:39:48 AM
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I am 6 hours in and the PE teacher rape one of his students.

@neonoctopus your reaction to this?
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Dragonblade01
04/09/17 7:41:24 AM
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I mean, it's a 100 hour game.

Not too many people are gonna play it twice anyway, lol
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NeonOctopus
04/09/17 8:53:37 AM
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Kelystic posted...
I am 6 hours in and the PE teacher rape one of his students.

@neonoctopus your reaction to this?

It's pretty fucked up. i wanted to kill him after that
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MrDrMan
04/09/17 8:55:02 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Kelystic posted...
I am 6 hours in and the PE teacher rape one of his students.

@neonoctopus your reaction to this?

It's pretty fucked up. i wanted to kill him after that


Wtf? That kinda shit seriously happens in these games?
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green butter
04/09/17 8:56:13 AM
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Yea this game absolutely crawls, the pacing is really poor tbh
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Vertania
04/09/17 9:21:54 AM
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I just got the fourth team member and I'm still dealing with tutorials. They have to know that the majority of people buying this game are returning players from at least P3 and P4.

That's not even the worst thing about it though. Having to talk Personas into joining your team? Come the fuck on. I had to retry 4 times to get that Bicorn thing because there's practically no way to predict what choice will work.
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NeoShadowhen
04/09/17 9:39:24 AM
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I dunno. I've never messed up a persona recruitment. Either it's totally random and we're on opposite ends of the probability table, or, well...

Yeah there's a lot of tutorial. There's a lot of moving parts in this game. A whole freaking lot.

There's a lot of reading and exposition in these games. It's not bad pacing, but it is more of a marathon experience than is typical these days. Just make yourself a drink and relax.
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Ps2Twilight
04/09/17 9:39:44 AM
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Vertania posted...
I just got the fourth team member and I'm still dealing with tutorials. They have to know that the majority of people buying this game are returning players from at least P3 and P4.

That's not even the worst thing about it though. Having to talk Personas into joining your team? Come the fuck on. I had to retry 4 times to get that Bicorn thing because there's practically no way to predict what choice will work.


What.

The game specifically tells you that the shadow's personality is what determines what choices work and what don't.
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GOATSLAYER
04/09/17 9:44:28 AM
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Ps2Twilight posted...
Vertania posted...
I just got the fourth team member and I'm still dealing with tutorials. They have to know that the majority of people buying this game are returning players from at least P3 and P4.

That's not even the worst thing about it though. Having to talk Personas into joining your team? Come the fuck on. I had to retry 4 times to get that Bicorn thing because there's practically no way to predict what choice will work.


What.

The game specifically tells you that the shadow's personality is what determines what choices work and what don't.

It's not always easy to tel what a persona's personality was. Like one of those punpkin things was complaining that t shouldn't have lost to me because it was more handsome. So I said "no, I am" and it got pissed at me and went back to attacking
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Vertania
04/09/17 9:49:31 AM
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Ps2Twilight posted...
What.

The game specifically tells you that the shadow's personality is what determines what choices work and what don't.

Because two sentences of dialogue is enough to determine how it will react to a vague phrase.

I got most of the other Personas first try, but it's still a pain in the ass mechanic. If you get it wrong, all the enemies get back up and can wipe out your MC or be too weak to knock down again, or they just run away.
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thompsontalker7
04/09/17 9:57:04 AM
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Can't you just skip everything on your second time through

It's a lot of hand holding but I didn't want it to try being l open world or anything
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JE19426
04/09/17 10:55:45 AM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
It's not always easy to tel what a persona's personality was.


The game literally tells you in the top left corner of the screen.
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I Like Toast
04/09/17 12:05:43 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Can't you just skip everything on your second time through


Not really.
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MrK3V
04/09/17 12:06:23 PM
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The_Office_pwnz
04/09/17 12:26:34 PM
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Also interesting how i never once heard about this in so called gaming journalism. It's just a giant payolla scam. It's so obvious when you hear how glowing everyone is to zelda. A literal wii u game with a boring and empty world
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SGT_Conti
04/09/17 1:03:59 PM
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Vertania posted...
Ps2Twilight posted...
What.

The game specifically tells you that the shadow's personality is what determines what choices work and what don't.

Because two sentences of dialogue is enough to determine how it will react to a vague phrase.

I got most of the other Personas first try, but it's still a pain in the ass mechanic. If you get it wrong, all the enemies get back up and can wipe out your MC or be too weak to knock down again, or they just run away.

The top left of the screen shows their personality when you're choosing who to talk to. It'll show timid or irritable or whatever.
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I Like Toast
04/09/17 1:08:53 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Why do developers have such a hard time making games simple enough to just pick up and start playing? There's way too many menus, options, buttons, etc these days.


P5 is simple though...
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VerisimiIitude
04/09/17 1:11:15 PM
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MrK3V posted...
and i thought P4 fucking dragged

Persona 4's intro seemed much longer than P5's with even less actual gameplay.
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metralo
04/09/17 1:13:46 PM
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I don't understand any of your complaints. I thought the game started much faster than the other Persona games. Especially after 6 hours, you should be far done with the tutorial.

Also demon negotiation is better than any other way they do it in smt.
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The_Office_pwnz
04/09/17 2:52:17 PM
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so 7 hours in it finally let me take jobs and build traits and...oh wait it forces me to go to the dungeon even though there's 9 days left. ugh
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The_Office_pwnz
04/09/17 3:10:58 PM
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CirocObama posted...
p5 def started much faster than p4.

I never played 4 so I don/t care
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Trumpo
04/09/17 3:14:03 PM
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Persona 4 was way worse since I recall beating the 1st dungeon in that game after 15 hours of playtime.
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I Like Toast
04/09/17 3:17:01 PM
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P4 tutorial last longer but this game is still giving me tutorial messages in mid June. And the several day hijacking between dungeons is getting ridiculous.
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Makeveli_lives
04/09/17 3:22:35 PM
#37:


CirocObama posted...
p5 def started much faster than p4.

P4 was like 2 hours in which you had no control or options with what to do with your days. No way in hell P5 has a faster start.
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GOATSLAYER
04/09/17 3:38:41 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
CirocObama posted...
p5 def started much faster than p4.

P4 was like 2 hours in which you had no control or options with what to do with your days. No way in hell P5 has a faster start.

Go back and play p4 again
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The_Office_pwnz
04/09/17 3:57:37 PM
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I have no intention to ever play p4 so that doesn't help
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UrCa1988
04/09/17 4:06:46 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
P4 tutorial last longer but this game is still giving me tutorial messages in mid June. And the several day hijacking between dungeons is getting ridiculous.

My jimmies got rustled super hard when I rented a video and had the next 10 days highjacked by story so the very first day I could actually watch it was already going to be late. At least they waive the late fee which is nice, but this just cements me not renting videos unless I have time remaining on a palace.
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metralo
04/09/17 5:25:33 PM
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Yeah, my only complaint is the fucking cat telling you you can't do things. The game definitely doesn't hold your hand for that long especially for a 100 hour game at the least, but the cat definitely can become a nuisance
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The_Office_pwnz
04/09/17 5:37:39 PM
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when you get to the second in game week it's actually a lot better paced as far as tutorial. goddamn shame it took 7 hours but whatevevs
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GOATSLAYER
04/09/17 5:58:39 PM
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The_Office_pwnz posted...
when you get to the second in game week it's actually a lot better paced as far as tutorial. goddamn shame it took 7 hours but whatevevs

Only took me 4
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The_Office_pwnz
04/09/17 7:34:07 PM
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Dash_Harber
04/09/17 9:03:59 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Welcome to every modern JRPG ever!
*Cue "But it's narrative driven!" whining*


Complaining about the tutorial section (which isn't bad at all, for a tutorial) sounds more like whining to me tbh. Or, conversely, all the "This game doesn't tell me anything! Why isn't there a tutorial!?" shit we'd be seeing if that part of the game had been removed.


I think there is some middle ground between holding the character's hand through the first six hours and not having a tutorial.

The reason I can't play most JRPGs nowadays is because they frequently railroad the player through the majority of the games and rely on poorly written characters and narratives and then dismiss people's complaints with some sort of appeal to ridicule where anyone who doesn't like it is just a mindless creten who doesn't understand storytelling.
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FightingGames
04/09/17 9:04:59 PM
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i thought this was gonna be a topic complaining about Ryuji always saying "FOR REAL?!"
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drunkmuggle
04/10/17 10:02:29 AM
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it also took me 7 hours to get past the tutorial but I am a slowpoke, other than that I am enjoying the game and also didn't mind the tutorial. the calling card stuff is a pain though. you have to reach the treasure in a palace with at least 3-4 days to spare as you'll need to send the calling card one day so you can go into the dungeon the next
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The_Office_pwnz
04/11/17 8:12:20 AM
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drunkmuggle posted...
it also took me 7 hours to get past the tutorial but I am a slowpoke, other than that I am enjoying the game and also didn't mind the tutorial. the calling card stuff is a pain though. you have to reach the treasure in a palace with at least 3-4 days to spare as you'll need to send the calling card one day so you can go into the dungeon the next

that literally made me almost quit. WHY do they let you fumble around in the dungeon if there is no chance of having enough time>??? So I have 2 days left when I found the first heart. So it takes a night sleep, another full day to send the card, then another day minimum to break his heart or whatever. They should maybe tutorial that little flaw.
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Leanaunfurled
04/11/17 9:07:15 AM
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lol People waiting last minute to finish the dungeon.
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AlisLandale
04/11/17 9:16:03 AM
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Yeah i ended up wasting a day because I thought finding the treasure triggered the boss fight, and my party was too exhausted to handle that.

There should have been some warning lol.

Though I always rush dungeons so for me it was just a mild invonvenience.
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