Poll of the Day > Star Wars Mandela Effect: "Luke, i am your father"

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What a mindfuck, he actually says "No, i am your father". How in the hell have i never noticed that before?

I remember it the correct way, but I'm pretty awesome
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I always remember it as "Luke, I am your father" even though I know it's incorrect since I never saw the movie till I was already exposed to pop culture incorrectly quoting it for the longest time.
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The Mandela Effect is the logical extreme of people not being able to admit they're wrong on the internet.

"It's spelled 'Berenstain'? I can't be wrong! This is a parallel universe!"
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GanonsSpirit posted...

The Mandela Effect is the logical extreme of people not being able to admit they're wrong on the internet.

"It's spelled 'Berenstain'? I can't be wrong! This is a parallel universe!"

You're taking it far too seriously
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How about the Morpheus quote from The Matrix that he never says?

"What if I told you..."

I guess the meme of the same quote was ingrained in people's heads.
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aHappySacka posted...

How about the Morpheus quote from The Matrix that he never says?

"What if I told you..."

I guess the meme of the same quote was ingrained in people's heads.

What he says is "what if I were to tell you"

Essentially the same thing, just a tad more pretentious
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even the voice actor remembers it incorrectly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ1mmkKb_BQ


everyone voting no is lying, obviously.

My mom always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.
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On a similar topic, for the longest time I remembered DKC2 Diddy's Kong Quest as Diddy Kong's Quest.
I felt really stupid when I eventually realized its correct name.
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LeetCheet posted...

On a similar topic, for the longest time I remembered DKC2 Diddy's Kong Quest as Diddy Kong's Quest.
I felt really stupid when I eventually realized its correct name.

Diddy's Kong Quest is a dumb name. I thought it was Diddy Kong's Quest because that's a way better name.

SkynyrdRocker posted...

LeetCheet posted...

On a similar topic, for the longest time I remembered DKC2 Diddy's Kong Quest as Diddy Kong's Quest.
I felt really stupid when I eventually realized its correct name.

Diddy's Kong Quest is a dumb name. I thought it was Diddy Kong's Quest because that's a way better name.

Kong's Quest doesn't work as a pun, though.
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Spoilers ?

It's not really a Mandela effect because it's wildly misquoted and people often hear the wrong version first. Plus, given that it's a whole sentence, people are more likely to get that wrong without any real issue. Every misquote isn't an alleged Mandela and there tens of thousands of misquotes.
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Hey guys, Vsauce here!

*Bill Nye science crap here*

This effect is stupid as hell. Why? Because I remember Bernstein Bears as the one book title everyone read wrong, and I also remember that line as the line everyone made up from that movie. We all used to talk about how Darth Vader never actually said that. I remember the name being hard to read, and it looked kind of like a cursive "a" when it was an "e" (vice versa if I still have it mixed up)

That's about enough to disperse "alternate universe" silliness.

Well explain the end of We Are The Champions by Queen
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disctray1 posted...

everyone voting no is lying, obviously.

I remember it the right way, if only because I actually remember the context of the scene, rather than just going around spouting random memetic nonsense I've heard other people say third-hand.

"Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father..."

"He told me enough! He told me YOU killed him!"

"No. -I- am your father."

Most of the people who misquote it are people who've never actually seen Empire, saw it once a long time ago and just vaguely remember it, or who heard multiple people misquote it long before they saw the actual movie.

But I saw Empire when I was 6 years old, and the World Wide Web wouldn't exist to ruin everything pop culture related for another decade or so. And I watched Empire A LOT as a kid.

There are quite a few movies from that era I can quote, word-for-word, beginning to end, without missing a single line. Transformers, Clue, the animated Lord of the Rings - I memorized a lot of useless trivia through constant repetition as a kid.

In a time when cable only had 36 channels, there were only like 10 hours of kid's programming tops on TV in any given week, and all you had was an Atari 2600 and a VCR, there wasn't all that much competing media to distract you from watching a favorite movie 100+ times.


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Stupid Pirate Guy posted...

Well explain the end of We Are The Champions by Queen

He sings "of the world" during the song. You're just remembering those middle parts as the end.

Also live he occasionally sang "of the world" at the end.

Stupid Pirate Guy posted...

Well explain the end of We Are The Champions by Queen

It just kind of sounds like he should say it, when everyone sings it to themselves they finish it in their heads because no one actually memorizes song lyrics.

Then someone brings it up and people are like "Oh my GAWD it must have been an alternate universe!"

SkynyrdRocker posted...

Stupid Pirate Guy posted...

Well explain the end of We Are The Champions by Queen

He sings "of the world" during the song. You're just remembering those middle parts as the end.

Also live he occasionally sang "of the world" at the end.

I'm 100% positive i've heard "of the world" at the end of the song.

green dragon posted...

I'm 100% positive i've heard "of the world" at the end of the song.

No, you're just misremembering the earlier part of the song. The song has always had a fairly abrupt ending in both the album and video versions. You're transposing the earlier part of the song to the end because it actually makes it sound more natural, because we're more used to songs having neater, more symmetrical endings. You're autocorrecting the song, and in the process, ruining your own memory of past events.

Human memory is incredibly shit in general, and your brain lies to you constantly. It's pathetically easy to trick people into thinking they remember something that never actually happened. Multiple studies have been done where psychologists can absolutely convince you that you saw or heard something 20 minutes ago that didn't even remotely happen, and there are multiple different ways it can be done.

It's part of why eyewitness testimony in court cases is always relatively suspect - because even when people think they're telling the truth, their interpretation of events may be entirely wrong, and they can misremember all sorts of details and effectively lie about what they saw without even meaning to.

It has nothing to do with multiple parallel universes constantly intersecting and overlapping, it has to do with the fact that the human brain is a deceptive, lazy piece of shit.


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ParanoidObsessive posted...

No, you're just misremembering the earlier part of the song.

no, i remember the live version having the "of the world" at the end

GanonsSpirit posted...

The Mandela Effect is the logical extreme of people not being able to admit they're wrong on the internet.

"It's spelled 'Berenstain'? I can't be wrong! This is a parallel universe!"

it was fucking BerenstEin fucking fight me yo
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I don't think people are actually serious when they talk about this parallel universe thing.
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disctray1 posted...

even the voice actor remembers it incorrectly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ1mmkKb_BQ


everyone voting no is lying, obviously.

reguardless of how he remembers it (the man did fucking 100 films and read twice as many scripts) it's actually a fascinating first thought for someone who doesn't know the twist. His first thought was that Vader was fucking with Luke to pull him to the dark side. That's even BETTER than Vader actually being his father in my opinion. What an evil mind fucker
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FrozenBananas posted...

His first thought was that Vader was fucking with Luke to pull him to the dark side. That's even BETTER than Vader actually being his father in my opinion. What an evil mind fucker

Yeah, that also would have been cool. It would also make Luke's journey through that tree stump cave of trials more symbolic... or maybe less symbolic. idk, it's symbolic in the sense that it's foreshadowing on a few levels but without the foreshadowing... meh
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I wasn't alive or even aware of movies at this point, but I like to imagine it was a fan theory between 1980 and 1983 that Vader wasn't actually Lukes father and that he was lying. Because it wasn't actually proven until Jedi in 1983. Although it was obviously hinted at many times in the first 2 films
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what about c3pos silver leg? thats some manila effect right there!

GanonsSpirit posted...

The Mandela Effect is the logical extreme of people not being able to admit they're wrong on the internet.

"It's spelled 'Berenstain'? I can't be wrong! This is a parallel universe!"

The Mandela effect is just the misremembering aspect.

The parallel universe shenanigans is an "explanation", not the effect itself.
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Also Mandela effect is a stupid name because I always knew he didn't die in prison...

I heard it a million times before I actually saw Star Wars, so when Vader actually said it I noticed it wasn't "Luke I am your father"

SkynyrdRocker posted...

Also Mandela effect is a stupid name because I always knew he didn't die in prison...

thats because you are from the same dimension. it only applies to people who got sucked into it when they screwed with the quantum computer.

I thought it was "No, Luke. I am your father."
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He always had a silver leg, the problem is that it was never mentioned in the movies and the camera never zoomed in on it, so people assumed that he had two golden legs.
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my favourite mandela effect: new zealand is apparently not located north-east of australia, but south-east
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Foppe posted...

He always had a silver leg, the problem is that it was never mentioned in the movies and the camera never zoomed in on it, so people assumed that he had two golden legs.

what about the toys, i had c3po toys, i dont recall a silver leg on them. and when i do a google search, all the toys have a silver leg on them!

disctray1 posted...

Foppe posted...

He always had a silver leg, the problem is that it was never mentioned in the movies and the camera never zoomed in on it, so people assumed that he had two golden legs.

what about the toys, i had c3po toys, i dont recall a silver leg on them. and when i do a google search, all the toys have a silver leg on them!

Many don't.

There are tons of people that remembers that some police/lawyer TV show from the 80s used the saxophone solo from the Baker Street song in the credits, but nobody remember what show it was.
If you google it, you will find that the internet had an explosion of users trying to find out what show it was ~10 years ago in all kind of different forums, and nobody ever found the answer.
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Relevant to this topic: https://www.buzzfeed.com/christopherhudspeth/crazy-examples-of-the-mandela-effect-that-will-make-you-ques?utm_term=.os179RE24Q#.rq29g2Xo1M

Some of these are very interesting. I definitely remember it as Chic-Fil-A, and I do NOT remember C-3PO ever having a silver leg...and of course I remember it as Berentein Bears, NOT Berenstain Bears!

...and Kit Kat with a dash! I thought there WAS a dash! >_< This is crazy...

...those last 3. I KNOW she said "Mirror, Mirror on the wall". I KNOW she did.

I KNOW Jiffy peanut butter existed.

AND I KNOW IT WAS FRUIT LOOPS! NOT FROOT LOOPS! A little while back I saw some for sale that said "Froot Loops" and I was thinking "Wth? I thought it was Fruit Loops?"

...This is weird, you guys. Really, really weird...How could our memories have been so wrong? Could there truly be something going on here...?
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StimpsonJCat posted...

How in the hell have i never noticed that before?

Adding "Luke" on there gives the reference context.

WindMouseHanpan posted...

I KNOW Jiffy peanut butter existed

I think people are confusing/combining skippy and jif

Nichtcrawler X posted...

The Mandela effect is just the misremembering aspect.

It's pretty dumb I say because I remember everyone getting it wrong before it became past tense.

Half the things covered by Vsauce is just baseless psuedo science hype.

green dragon posted...

WindMouseHanpan posted...

I KNOW Jiffy peanut butter existed

I think people are confusing/combining skippy and jif

That might actually be an explanation for that one, yeah.

Don't know how to explain "Mirror mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" though. That line has been in my memory since I was a kid...I can't believe she says "magic mirror".
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When did youtube start?

I remember stalking about it in 2003 but all sources say 2005
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FrozenBananas posted...

I wasn't alive or even aware of movies at this point, but I like to imagine it was a fan theory between 1980 and 1983 that Vader wasn't actually Lukes father and that he was lying. Because it wasn't actually proven until Jedi in 1983. Although it was obviously hinted at many times in the first 2 films

Actually, it shouldn't have been hinted to in ANH because the plot twist didn't exist back then. It was the creation of a guy other than Lucas who worked on the ESB script.

Apparently Lucas's vision was always playing the whole fantasy trope very straight: Average boy from doomed village is plucked out of obscurity for a grand quest, is mentored by a wizard, defeats an evil villain to save the day, and gets the girl. ESB, largely the work of other creative people, flipped the script because Han gets the girl and the villain turns out to be deeper than a cliche. Granted, it should be noted that part of the Vader storyline is reminiscent of Adieu Galaxy Express 999, where a black-clad machine-like man turns out to be the hero's father; not sure if the manga revealed this twist before the film -- thus placing it before ESB -- or vice versa

Foppe posted...

He always had a silver leg, the problem is that it was never mentioned in the movies and the camera never zoomed in on it, so people assumed that he had two golden legs.

Oh, I thought he lost his normal leg in one scene and they just replaced it with a spare.

Questionmarktarius posted...

StimpsonJCat posted...

How in the hell have i never noticed that before?

Adding "Luke" on there gives the reference context.

Makes a lot of sense, tbh.

jamieyello3 posted...

Half the things covered by Vsauce is just baseless psuedo science hype.

It's truly a garbage channel.

JOExHIGASHI posted...

When did youtube start?

I remember stalking about it in 2003 but all sources say 2005

Kinda like how I remember starting RS in 2000, but supposedly it didn't exist until 2001. Inception'd! Errr, Mandela'd!
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Gamechamp3k posted...

SkynyrdRocker posted...

LeetCheet posted...

On a similar topic, for the longest time I remembered DKC2 Diddy's Kong Quest as Diddy Kong's Quest.
I felt really stupid when I eventually realized its correct name.

Diddy's Kong Quest is a dumb name. I thought it was Diddy Kong's Quest because that's a way better name.

Kong's Quest doesn't work as a pun, though.

Oh my God I never realized it was a pun. Then again, I thought it was Diddy Kong's Quest.
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WindMouseHanpan posted...

...those last 3. I KNOW she said "Mirror, Mirror on the wall". I KNOW she did

In the Swedish version of the movie(the one I grew up watching with), she did say "Mirror, Mirror on the wall..." except in Swedish of course.
(complete quote is; "Spegel, Spegel på väggen där...")

I bet at least a couple of other versions also had it as "Mirror, Mirror on the wall..." in their own respective languages.
And the people who saw the non-English versions of the movie just assumed the quote was worded the same in English.
I mean, haven't seen the English version and I sure as hell assumed it was "Mirror, Mirror...".

Sorry if I didn't make any sense. Just ignore this post if you couldn't understand what I meant : /
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What he actually says is "DUKE, I am your father"

The characters name is Duke Skywalker if you look it up but people remember it weird
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

disctray1 posted...

everyone voting no is lying, obviously.

I remember it the right way, if only because I actually remember the context of the scene, rather than just going around spouting random memetic nonsense I've heard other people say third-hand.

"Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father..."

"He told me enough! He told me YOU killed him!"

"No. -I- am your father."

I like to think that the miss quoting started due to lack of context. Just saying "I am your father." doesn't give a lot of context to the scene if your just spouting a line. But by adding "Luke" it gives context to the reference your making.

Couple that with people probably seeing the movie once, and hearing the supposed line many times you can see why this would happen.

Like people saying "Spinning in ones grave." That's not really correct. Its just "Turn in ones grave." or "Rollover in ones grave." To give the expression that the person in the grave would be shocked at what has been said or done that they would turn away.
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