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andel 05/07/17 2:42:25 PM #1: |
gender?
if you look like a man/woman it is on you to change yourself to be passable imo --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 05/07/17 2:49:15 PM #2: |
D.
There's no way to measure "passing" plus that's sexist af --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 05/07/17 2:51:01 PM #3: |
D
Plus they aren't "preferred" gender pronouns, they're their genuine ones. The real McCoy. Etc. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 05/07/17 2:52:06 PM #4: |
ZMythos posted...
D. if you look like a man i will refee to you as one. if you look like a woman i will refer to you as one. p simple --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 05/07/17 2:52:18 PM #5: |
gunplagirl posted...
D nah --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 2:53:01 PM #6: |
If a transgender female still has the male sex organ, than that person is still male until that is taken care of. That person can WANT to be female, but until the penis is gone, they are not.
Do not tell me you are female if you still have a penis (same thing vise versa). Your GENDER can be whatever the hell you want it to be but your actual sex does not change until you are "post-op" AT that point I will consider you whatever gender you are claiming to be. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 05/07/17 2:54:11 PM #7: |
andel posted...
ZMythos posted...D. The real world's isn't as simple as your mom's basement --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hambo the Hog 05/07/17 2:55:34 PM #8: |
D. If you fail to correctly identify someone's gender at first sight, that's okay, but once you know better, you should use someone's preferred gender whether you think they "pass" or not.
--- I'm sorry, but 10,000 of ANYTHING on a PS2 would absolutely destroy your framerate. It'd be like playing chess through the mail. ~johnboy1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raikuro 05/07/17 2:57:24 PM #9: |
So if a cisgendered woman was born manly looking, you would call her a dude to her face?
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ChibiGhasts 05/07/17 2:57:48 PM #10: |
andel posted...
if you look like a man i will refee to you as one. if you look like a woman i will refer to you as one. p simple what if it was just some manly looking chick who is just ugly lol --- i am not ghasts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 05/07/17 2:58:17 PM #11: |
Dustin1280 posted...
If a transgender female still has the male sex organ, than that person is still male until that is taken care of. That person can WANT to be female, but until the penis is gone, they are not. Are you willing for everyone to pay $0.30 more in taxes a year to pay for all trans people to get gender confirmation surgery? Because it's $30k+ that most people, especially trans women, still can never hope to afford. In addition, the wait times for surgeon openings are massive. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 05/07/17 2:58:52 PM #12: |
ZMythos posted...
andel posted...ZMythos posted...D. your projection is delicious. if you have obvious facial hair and a noticeable adams apple you arent trying to pass and will be treated accordingly --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 05/07/17 2:59:55 PM #13: |
gunplagirl posted...
Dustin1280 posted...If a transgender female still has the male sex organ, than that person is still male until that is taken care of. That person can WANT to be female, but until the penis is gone, they are not. elective surgery like that is on you. step your bankroll up tbh --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 3:00:49 PM #14: |
I would have no problem paying $10.00 more in taxes a year if it means that the transgendered person can get a sex change. I can't speak for everyone though, and have no concerns with people who would not be willing to pay more.
But don't tell me you are female if you have a penis, the most I will do is respect what you want to be, I will even refer to you as female if you want. Doesn't change that you are still a man. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 05/07/17 3:02:32 PM #15: |
andel posted...
gunplagirl posted...Dustin1280 posted...If a transgender female still has the male sex organ, than that person is still male until that is taken care of. That person can WANT to be female, but until the penis is gone, they are not. You can't have it both ways without coming off as a hypocrite Either cut your discrimination, or fork up the money to make it possible for them to get it resolved by your standards And it's not elective, wpath standards of treatment --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 05/07/17 3:03:11 PM #16: |
Dustin1280 posted...
I would have no problem paying $10.00 more in taxes a year if it means that the transgendered person can get a sex change. I can't speak for everyone though, and have no concerns with people who would not be willing to pay more. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Buck_Angel_Headshot.jpg/800px-Buck_Angel_Headshot.jpg This is a woman, then. --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 3:04:32 PM #17: |
no that is a man
--- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 05/07/17 3:04:59 PM #18: |
According to your short sighted "If you have a penis, you are a man" definition, that would be a woman.
--- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 3:06:04 PM #19: |
So that person has a vagina?
Fine that person is a woman... I will never personally be able to think of that person as such though because of said persons features. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 05/07/17 3:06:58 PM #20: |
gunplagirl posted...
andel posted...gunplagirl posted...Dustin1280 posted...If a transgender female still has the male sex organ, than that person is still male until that is taken care of. That person can WANT to be female, but until the penis is gone, they are not. wrong. some people look like shit with a beard, doesnt mean i have to buy the razor. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 05/07/17 3:07:07 PM #21: |
Dustin1280 posted...
So that person has a vagina? Then your own criteria for labeling someone a man or a woman is inherently flawed if you can't look at "her" as a woman. --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 3:09:29 PM #22: |
She met the requirements, she doesn't have a penis anymore, she can be a women if she wants.
That doesn't change the fact that she looks like a man to me. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 05/07/17 3:11:00 PM #23: |
As long as you attempt. Not if you are a Riley Dennis or some chubby white girl with a short haircut that says you are agender cause you describe yourself as a tomboy. Those people use it for social brownie points as opposed to people with actual body dismorphia.
--- "That man practices Islam. Are you happy he was taken out since according to you he believes what terrorists do?" -VipaGTS to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 05/07/17 3:11:12 PM #24: |
Dustin1280 posted...
She met the requirements, she doesn't have a penis anymore, she can be a women if she wants. Never had a penis to begin with and prefers you call him a man. It doesn't change the fact that according to your own definition, that's still a woman to you. You can't have it both ways. --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 3:11:58 PM #25: |
Yes she has a vagina so she is a women, this is true.
I'm not having it both ways, she has a vagina therefore she is a women. She looks like a man, maybe she sounds like a man, but she is still a women. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gamer99z 05/07/17 3:12:06 PM #26: |
andel posted...
if you look like a man i will refee to you as one. if you look like a woman i will refer to you as one. p simple The first time you meet someone that's fine to do. But if someone actually clarifies that they're actually a man/woman then if nothing else it's common courtesy and decency to refer to them as such. Unless of course they start getting into xe/xem/xir/ bullshit then they can fuck the hell off. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 05/07/17 3:12:39 PM #27: |
Dustin1280 posted...
Fine that person is a woman... --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 3:15:26 PM #28: |
If I saw her on the street, I would assume she is a man.
If I knew she still had a vagina but wanted to be called a man, I would call by whatever she preferred. She is still a woman --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 05/07/17 3:16:44 PM #29: |
You dug your own hole and keep digging deeper. It's pretty sad you can't even begin to question that maybe it's not so black and white when your own written statements show your ignorance on the subject.
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 3:17:43 PM #30: |
I have been saying the same thing the entire time.
Doesn't matter what I think if she has a vagina she is a female. If he has a penis he is male. I will respect whatever you want to call yourself, I will even refer to you as whatever you prefer to be called, that doesn't change anything I said. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 05/07/17 3:18:23 PM #31: |
UrCa1988 posted...
Dustin1280 posted...Fine that person is a woman... --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lorenzo_2003 05/07/17 3:18:37 PM #32: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
As long as you attempt. Not if you are a Riley Dennis or some chubby white girl with a short haircut that says you are agender cause you describe yourself as a tomboy. Those people use it for social brownie points as opposed to people with actual body dismorphia. Wait, what does that mean? What if I feel like saying I'm a woman because I really need to use their bathroom? How would you even be able to tell if I was "attempting" or not? --- ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 3:20:58 PM #33: |
UrCa1988 posted...
UrCa1988 posted...Dustin1280 posted...Fine that person is a woman... Yes, that falls in line with exactly what I have been saying this entire time. It doesn't matter how I feel or what I think, if you have a penis your a man if you have a vagina your a woman. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 05/07/17 3:21:24 PM #34: |
Dustin1280 posted...
UrCa1988 posted...UrCa1988 posted...Dustin1280 posted...Fine that person is a woman... --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 3:21:58 PM #35: |
You are just quoting the same sentence, it doesn't change anything I said.
Everything I have said in this topic is the same, my stance hasn't changed. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 05/07/17 3:23:13 PM #36: |
Except when it comes to that person being a man, because now she's a woman apparently, but you can never imagine her as anything other than a man.
--- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 3:23:32 PM #37: |
UrCa1988 posted...
Except when it comes to that person being a man, because now she's a woman apparently, but you can never imagine her as anything other than a man. She is still a women, she has a vagina. She just looks like a man. She wants to be referred to as a man, so be it. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 05/07/17 3:23:51 PM #38: |
Alright, stay ignorant then.
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Bok_Choi 05/07/17 3:26:35 PM #39: |
TBH you have to pay attention to how people are presenting not as what they are passing as
Does that make sense? If they are dressed like a woman just assume they want to be called a she or her. If they're dressed like a dude be safe and use a neutral pronoun (They) --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gossipgirl 05/07/17 3:28:41 PM #40: |
I pretty much call it how I see it until I'm corrected or otherwise.
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Medussa 05/07/17 3:32:39 PM #41: |
rule number 1 -- Don't be a dick.
that is all. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/07/17 3:33:50 PM #42: |
Medussa posted...
rule number 1 -- Don't be a dick. I agree with that actually... It's why I simply call people by whatever gender they chose to be called regardless of what they actually are. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prettyprincess 05/07/17 3:35:35 PM #43: |
nella larsen weeps
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