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TheVipaGTS 07/09/17 4:03:43 PM #53: |
hockeybub89 posted...
And that makes them left-wing Socialist, how? In Mal's simple minded world, Nazi=Bad, Left=Bad, Socialism=Bad, therefore Nazi's must be Leftists Socialists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ManSpread 07/09/17 4:08:30 PM #54: |
CrimsonRage posted...
Who gets angry when Nazis get punched? It ain't the left. :> punching non violent citizens is dumb regardless of their beliefs spencer is a shit tier human, but punching people unprovoked just makes you look like an asshole --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 07/09/17 4:11:17 PM #55: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...hockeybub89 posted...What about the Nazis was Socialist?
https://www.mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/09/17 4:14:43 PM #56: |
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Mal_Fet posted...hockeybub89 posted...What about the Nazis was Socialist? Well if ancaps say so then it must be so. I am still not seeing the "not capitalist = left wing burning example of socialism" logical leap. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 07/09/17 4:19:03 PM #58: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Well if ancaps say so then it must be so. If you don't understand why taking the means of production away from private business owners and having the state control what products are made at what prices is socialism, then you have no fucking clue and socialism is. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnragedSlith 07/09/17 4:19:10 PM #59: |
Mal_fet is proof of chasing your narrative in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It isn't a fight you can win. Maybe you should try basing your views around evidence rather than searching for evidence to support your views
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Mal_Fet 07/09/17 4:20:54 PM #60: |
EnragedSlith posted...
Mal_fet is proof of chasing your narrative in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. He says, about the only guy who's provided any sort of evidence in this topic XD --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 07/09/17 4:23:28 PM #62: |
ManSpread posted...
CrimsonRage posted...Who gets angry when Nazis get punched? It ain't the left. :> There's no such thing as a nonviolent Nazi --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/09/17 4:30:07 PM #63: |
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Well if ancaps say so then it must be so. That is what I am saying. Nazi Germany was not a left-wing socialist society. You need more than "the state took over things" to prove that. Is North Korea left-wing socialism then? Nazi Germany did a lot of things that were the antithesis of socialism or leftism. This is where you mention that SJWs act like Hitler so Hitler is a liberal or some other stupid logic. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 07/09/17 5:05:20 PM #64: |
hockeybub89 posted...
That is what I am saying. Nazi Germany was not a left-wing socialist society. You need more than "the state took over things" to prove that. Is North Korea left-wing socialism then? Okay, you actually don't know what socialism even means. Please go ahead and Google the definition. It'll help you out a lot. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 07/09/17 5:07:49 PM #65: |
Mal_Fet posted...
JE19426 posted...How can you be a leftist facist? Hitler leftist? Lol. Lol LOL. Nothing about the Nazi were leftist. I give you the communists though. You should have stopped before Hitler. --- when you stub your toes it's the SJWs fualt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/09/17 5:14:18 PM #66: |
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...That is what I am saying. Nazi Germany was not a left-wing socialist society. You need more than "the state took over things" to prove that. Is North Korea left-wing socialism then? Pot, kettle. I am not denying that state controlled means of production isn't an element of socialism. I am arguing that it is an incredibly simplistic view on socialism and does little to prove Nazi Germany was a left-wing socialist society and that left-wing and/or socialist policies are inherently evil. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AcFan87 07/09/17 5:16:53 PM #67: |
I'm not the least bit surprised that they are a leftist group. I expect that kind of barbaric behavior from them.
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Full Throttle 07/09/17 5:17:13 PM #68: |
i'm sorry but if the Nazi's were "left-wing socialists" why exactly are the KKK and Nazi sympathizers supportive of right-wing parties today?
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Mal_Fet 07/09/17 5:50:14 PM #69: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Pot, kettle. I am not denying that state controlled means of production isn't an element of socialism. It is the primary element of socialism. Seriously, go read up on the definition. hockeybub89 posted... and that left-wing and/or socialist policies are inherently evil. Left-wing socialist policies constantly create tyrannical governments that oppress their people. Seems pretty inherently evil. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 07/09/17 10:34:05 PM #71: |
![]() --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/09/17 10:41:34 PM #72: |
Mal_Fet posted...
A group of ignorant extremists on the left unwittingly cheered Hitler quotes, therefore Hitler was a left-wing socialist. How do you explain people on the right-wing that support Nazi beliefs? Is Richard Spencer left-wing and just too stupid to know it? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 07/09/17 10:53:07 PM #73: |
Mal_Fet posted...
It is the primary element of socialism. "Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterized by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production" What part of Hitler's government exhibits a democratic control of production? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 07/09/17 11:16:06 PM #74: |
hockeybub89 posted...
A group of ignorant extremists on the left unwittingly cheered Hitler quotes, therefore Hitler was a left-wing socialist. Hitler was a left-wing socialist because he meets the definition of a left-wing socialist. Anteaterking posted... "Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterized by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production" Government ownership = public ownership ("social" ownership). There must be a central organizing body to coordinate the means of production even when it's owned by "the people", and that's what the government is. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/10/17 3:35:21 AM #75: |
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...A group of ignorant extremists on the left unwittingly cheered Hitler quotes, therefore Hitler was a left-wing socialist. He asked where the democratic control was and you completely ignored that part of the definition. Your boy Trump really trained you in the art of the swerve. When did government control become uniquely left-wing and socialist. You also still haven't told me if North Korea and neo-Nazis are left-wing socialists either. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 07/10/17 12:07:40 PM #76: |
hockeybub89 posted...
He asked where the democratic control was and you completely ignored that part of the definition. The Nazi government was a democracy. They voted Hitler in. The fact that a government existed to organize publicly-owned property does not disqualify it from being socialism. Your boy Trump really trained you in the art of the swerve. When did government control become uniquely left-wing and socialist. Because that's literally the definition of left-wing. A big central government that takes care of more of the individual's life is the essence of left-wing politics. You also still haven't told me if North Korea and neo-Nazis are left-wing socialists either. North Korea is leftist. Neo-Nazis are just racists who largely don't know or care about how the Nazi party was actually run. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FursonaNonGrata 07/10/17 12:21:16 PM #77: |
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Mal_Fet 07/10/17 12:30:48 PM #78: |
FursonaNonGrata posted...
Lol, I edited my post to respond to the rest before I posted this. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 07/10/17 3:10:37 PM #79: |
Mal_Fet posted...
The Nazi government was a democracy. No they weren’t. They voted Hitler in. They voted him into a coalition government. The Nazis they then arrested almost all the other members of the government who disagreed with them. If that's you definition of "democracy" then it's pretty ridiculous. Because that's literally the definition of left-wing. No it's not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 07/10/17 5:13:25 PM #80: |
JE19426 posted...
They voted him into a coalition government. The Nazis they then arrested almost all the other members of the government who disagreed with them. If that's you definition of "democracy" then it's pretty ridiculous. "They were corrupt, therefore they weren't socialists" Do you even hear yourself right now? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 07/10/17 5:28:02 PM #81: |
Mal_Fet posted...
"They were corrupt, therefore they weren't socialists" Where on Earth did I claim this? Do you even hear yourself right now? Yes I can. Can you hear yourself? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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