Current Events > The new Crackdown looks like garbage

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvSz9AcQH1A

It looks the same as the original Crackdown 10 years ago.
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ok
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Darmik posted...

It looks the same as the original Crackdown 10 years ago.

So it's the second one all over again

Darmik posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvSz9AcQH1A

It looks the same as the original Crackdown 10 years ago.

That's all I want.
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arent you one of the guys who was praising all of the dark souls clones on ps4? as well as crash and shadow of the colossus remakes?
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Axiom posted...

Darmik posted...

It looks the same as the original Crackdown 10 years ago.

So it's the second one all over again

That was was a low budget and quick rush job on the same platform.

This is the next gen sequel that has been in development for years. What a disappointment.
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True. Did they at least keep the completely destructible environments or am I thinking of a different game. Didn't watch the vid since I can't right now

Swagnificent119 posted...

arent you one of the guys who was praising all of the dark souls clones on ps4? as well as crash and shadow of the colossus remakes?

I don't even play Dark Souls.

This game isn't a Crackdown remake. It's the third game in the series. In a genre that has evolved significantly over the last decade with a shitload of competition.
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Axiom posted...

True. Did they at least keep the completely destructible environments or am I thinking of a different game

Multiplayer only as far as I know. I don't think they have shown it yet. Multi is its own mode now or something and isn't the same thing.
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Darmik posted...

This game isn't a Crackdown remake. It's the third game in the series. In a genre that has evolved significantly over the last decade with a s***load of competition.

so it's okay as long as it's labeled a remake and is on ps4, then?
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Swagnificent119 posted...

Darmik posted...

This game isn't a Crackdown remake. It's the third game in the series. In a genre that has evolved significantly over the last decade with a s***load of competition.

so it's okay as long as it's labeled a remake and is on ps4, then?

What are you on about?
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Darmik posted...

Swagnificent119 posted...

Darmik posted...

This game isn't a Crackdown remake. It's the third game in the series. In a genre that has evolved significantly over the last decade with a s***load of competition.

so it's okay as long as it's labeled a remake and is on ps4, then?

What are you on about?

i just want to know when exactly it's okay for a game to be same old garbage, in your view.

remakes are okay, by the book sequels bad. apparently.

or is it just because it's on xbox?

just trying to figure out how your mind works on this one.
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Swagnificent119 posted...

Darmik posted...

Swagnificent119 posted...

Darmik posted...

This game isn't a Crackdown remake. It's the third game in the series. In a genre that has evolved significantly over the last decade with a s***load of competition.

so it's okay as long as it's labeled a remake and is on ps4, then?

What are you on about?

i just want to know when exactly it's okay for a game to be same old garbage, in your view.

remakes are okay, by the book sequels bad. apparently.

or is it just because it's on xbox?

just trying to figure out how your mind works on this one.

Well considering I bought Gears of War Remastered it's not a PS4 bias. A remake takes no where near the amount of resources as a sequel. If this was a Crackdown remake my expectations would be different.

A by the books sequel is bad for a game that came out a decade ago yes. This game looks extremely dated. They could do so much more with the Crackdown concept with the new system.

I think I've been called a fanboy for every company now lol.
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Well there goes any interest in the game. I rented the second one because I liked the first and hated it. The 3rd really only had the environmental destruction going for it but if it's MP only then my curiosity is officially gone

come on now, darmik. everyone knows youve always had a sony bias and take every chance to shit on microsoft you can. but its good that you bought the gears of war remaster i guess. sorry that everyone apparently says youre a fanboy to everything, too.
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Swagnificent119 posted...

come on now, darmik. everyone knows youve always had a sony bias and take every chance to shit on microsoft you can. but its good that you bought the gears of war remaster i guess. sorry that everyone apparently says youre a fanboy to everything, too.

Hahahahaha. I've trashed on Sony plenty of times. Get a grip.

There's plenty to criticize with Microsoft in the last few years. Sorry if that offends you.
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>Xbox exclusive
>looks like shit

well whaddya know
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I think Darmik has always been pretty fair towards all the systems which is probably why other fanboys have called him a fanboy of specific systems

It's really not his fault that Xbox has been taking Ls left and right this generation. The few games that could be called must haves seem to get cancelled before they even see the light of day

Darmik posted...

There's plenty to criticize with Microsoft in the last few years. Sorry if that offends you.

It doesnt. i think both companies are shit.

i just find it funny how upset you get when you get called out on your bias and the weird reasoning you have that all these remakes and shitty remasters are okay compared to shitty sequels.
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Axiom posted...

I think Darmik has always been pretty fair towards all the systems which is probably why other fanboys have called him a fanboy of specific systems

It's really not his fault that Xbox has been taking Ls left and right this generation. The few games that could be called must haves seem to get cancelled before they even see the light of day

I was really excited for Scalebound. Still salty over that one.
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This makes Agents of Mayhem look good
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I honestly don't understand how Crackdown has any fans.

The first one was like okay at best, the second one was complete shit. This looks to be more of the same really.

I just don't understand how anyone likes this series tbqh
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Swagnificent119 posted...

i just find it funny how upset you get when you get called out on your bias and the weird reasoning you have that all these remakes and s***ty remasters are okay compared to s***ty sequels.

What bias exactly? I explained why I treat remakes/remasters and sequels differently.

I also explained why Crackdown is specifically a poor looking sequel.

You're not even rebutting it. You're just crying I'm too mean to Microsoft and overlooking Sony. Even though I've been incredibly harsh on a chunk of Sony's input this generation too. Hell I consider Infamous Second Son a big disappointment too for similar reasons and that was a launch window game several years ago!
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the city is meant to be fully destructible (in an impressive sort of way, not just crumbling buildings that despawn) right? haven't seen many example of it. if they cut that then the game just looks dated as shit for nothing.

Swagnificent119 posted...

Darmik posted...

There's plenty to criticize with Microsoft in the last few years. Sorry if that offends you.

It doesnt. i think both companies are shit.

i just find it funny how upset you get when you get called out on your bias and the weird reasoning you have that all these remakes and shitty remasters are okay compared to shitty sequels.

His logic seems sound.

Also, how is something like N-Sane Trilogy not more impressive than a dated sequel? That game was rebuilt by eyeballing videos and perusing gaming websites. Crackdown 3 is a new sequel that has seemingly not developed at all from its 10 year old original.
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MrStabbath posted...

the city is meant to be fully destructible (in an impressive sort of way, not just crumbling buildings that despawn) right? haven't seen many example of it. if they cut that then the game just looks dated as shit for nothing.

It has indeed been cut for single player.

It's apparently in the multiplayer but that doesn't use the same sandbox or something. They're being vague as shit about it.
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Darmik posted...

Swagnificent119 posted...

i just find it funny how upset you get when you get called out on your bias and the weird reasoning you have that all these remakes and s***ty remasters are okay compared to s***ty sequels.

What bias exactly? I explained why I treat remakes/remasters and sequels differently.

I also explained why Crackdown is specifically a poor looking sequel.

You're not even rebutting it. You're just crying I'm too mean to Microsoft and overlooking Sony. Even though I've been incredibly harsh on a chunk of Sony's input this generation too. Hell I consider Infamous Second Son a big disappointment too for similar reasons and that was a launch window game several years ago!

At least inFamous looked a lot nicer, but yeah it didn't really build on the foundation.
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that looks really bland
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The thing is as well is that games like the Crash trilogy exist so people can revisit the originals and to see if there is interest in the series. It's a low risk scenario. If it flops that's not a big deal overall. They'll move on. People who played the original don't need to even buy it since they've played it too.

Sequels take way more resources. If it flops that's it.

Crackdown 1 came out in 2007. Before fucking GTAIV. That's how old it is. And yet this game barely looks like it has changed anything. Nothing impressive with the abilities/platforming. No cool new transforming sequels that really add anything. The way the gang members shoot and react to you looks the same. The melee looks the same. The city and artstyle looks the same. It looks the same as a game that came out a decade ago. Why would I buy this when open world games have raised the bar so much in the last 10 years?

This isn't even a Crash or Shadow of the Colossus scenario either. Crash is part of an overall dead genre. SOTC is a completely unique game. Crackdown is neither of these and again, it's a sequel.

But I'm just a PlayStation fanboy I guess. Even though I loved Crackdown back in the day.
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Darmik posted...

What bias exactly? I explained why I treat remakes/remasters and sequels differently.

yeah but it's a really shitty reasoning for why they *arent* bad.

the fact that they don't take many resources but people like you just shrug and buy them is exactly why this has been a shitty generation of remakes and remasters.

why work on anything worth a damn if publishers/developers can just throw together a remake that people will buy?
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Darmik posted...

But I'm just a PlayStation fanboy I guess. Even though I loved Crackdown back in the day.

you keep doing this thing where you bring up that you used to like something, so thus you can't be a fanboy.

it isn't even about fanboyism anymore. it's just clear that you have really fucked up priorities when it comes to what is acceptable or not.
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Meh, I hate remakes too but like the Crash remakes are whatever.

I find SOTC more insulting since that's already been re-released like two times now and people still keep creaming their pants over it.
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Swagnificent119 posted...

the fact that they don't take many resources but people like you just shrug and buy them is exactly why this has been a s***ty generation of remakes and remasters.

You really think the only thing to play this generation is a bunch of remakes and remasters? I feel sorry for you.

Swagnificent119 posted...

it isn't even about fanboyism anymore. it's just clear that you have really f***ed up priorities when it comes to what is acceptable or not.

Even if you find remakes/remasters so offensive (even though Microsoft does plenty of them anyway) I have no idea why this is a defense for Crackdown 3. Just seems like a poor effort to throw shade at Sony for some reason. Crackdown 3 looking poor doesn't have anything to do with Sony or remasters/remakes.
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it's not really a defense of crackdown, it's more just showing your and CE's apparent goofy fucking standards when it comes to games.

crackdown 3 is bad because it's the same old shit

crash and sotc are okay because it's the same old shit with a new coat of paint
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And I've already explained those concepts for you.

Games don't exist in some little bubble. You're talking about completely different games in completely different genres with completely different price points from completely different generations and completely different style of releases.

Remakes/remasters don't have the same value to me. I bought Crash Trilogy because it was $20 if I traded in 2 games and it was a collection of 3 games. I bought Gears Remastered because it included the entire saga up until that point for free. I bought Rare Replay because it included an entire collection of games.

By the looks of it I'm not gonna buy Crackdown 3 because it looks like a game that should have been released last decade with a full price tag. I have no desire to play Crackdown 1 on top of that because the bar for open world games have improved so much. So why would I want to buy a sequel that looks like a barely improved Crackdown 1?
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Game looks awesome to me. The destruction shown in multiplayer is worth it alone.

This whole console fanboy war comes from nerds having deep seated inferioroty complexes.
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Darmik posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvSz9AcQH1A

It looks the same as the original Crackdown 10 years ago.

You say it like if it's a bad thing.
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The only thing that was interesting was the destruction

And it's not even in SP? What a joke
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I can only watch a minute or two cos I'm at work but my immediate impressions are that it looks a lot more fluid than the previous games, and a lot more colourful too. I just wanna blow dudes up and piss about in an open world with fun gadgets.
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Darmik posted...

MrStabbath posted...

the city is meant to be fully destructible (in an impressive sort of way, not just crumbling buildings that despawn) right? haven't seen many example of it. if they cut that then the game just looks dated as shit for nothing.

It has indeed been cut for single player.

It's apparently in the multiplayer but that doesn't use the same sandbox or something. They're being vague as shit about it.

I remember them demoing it a couple of years ago and they were going into detail about how the destruction engine worked, and how it used cloud computing to process the damage done to the city. They were specifically showing off how more CPUs were being used by the cloud as they tore apart a building to pieces.

Basically, I don't think that level of destruction was ever going to come to single player. Not fully offline at least.
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Twinmold posted...

Game looks awesome to me. The destruction shown in multiplayer is worth it alone.

You mean the stuff they showed off years ago? When they were still talking about the power of the cloud?

l Dudeboy l posted...

Darmik posted...

MrStabbath posted...

the city is meant to be fully destructible (in an impressive sort of way, not just crumbling buildings that despawn) right? haven't seen many example of it. if they cut that then the game just looks dated as shit for nothing.

It has indeed been cut for single player.

It's apparently in the multiplayer but that doesn't use the same sandbox or something. They're being vague as shit about it.

I remember them demoing it a couple of years ago and they were going into detail about how the destruction engine worked, and how it used cloud computing to process the damage done to the city. They were specifically showing off how more CPUs were being used by the cloud as they tore apart a building to pieces.

Basically, I don't think that level of destruction was ever going to come to single player. Not fully offline at least.

I don't think that stuff panned out at all. That's likely why the game went away for a long time.
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How can people not understand this?

Remake =/= Sequel

You hold these two different things to very different standards. A remake is supposed to be the same game with a little twist (better graphics, better lighting, better gameplay, whatever)

A sequel is meant to pick up where the last game left off in terms of gameplay, powers, graphics, story, mechanics and bring a completely new game which improves all of the above points. Look at Assassin's Creed 1 to 2. The sequel literally improved everything from the first game, that's why it's so loved.

A remake is, by definition, a rehash.
A sequel can never be a rehash, it has to be something new. Which this game doesn't seem to be. Instead of calling it a Crackdown remake, they're calling it Crackdown 3, even though it seems to fail to improve on anything established in the last games.
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This site should be named SonyFAQs.
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faizan_faizan posted...

This site should be named SonyFAQs.

Excuse me, it's NintenFAQs like everyone moans whenever there's a poll that includes them.
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l Dudeboy l posted...

faizan_faizan posted...

This site should be named SonyFAQs.

Excuse me, it's NintenFAQs like everyone moans whenever there's a poll that includes them.

Nah, it's SonyFAQs. Pretty much every system board is a waste of time now. Sony fanboys infest every topic on the Xbox and Nintendo boards, while the PlayStation 4 board is filled with weebs and alt-right weirdos.
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billcom6 posted...

Darmik posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvSz9AcQH1A

It looks the same as the original Crackdown 10 years ago.

That's all I want.

This crackdown was amazing
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Darmik posted...

This game isn't a Crackdown remake. It's the third game in the series. In a genre that has evolved significantly over the last decade with a shitload of competition.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

let's not pretend like gaming has changed in the last ten years, we are still playing the same fucking games in the same fucking genres and the only innovation this gen is that now some devs clone dark souls. the only thing that's changes is the monetization models, so now we have more DLC and loot crates and shit
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I'm not talking about innovation. I'm talking about how much the open world genre has improved over the last 10 years.

People barely gave a crap about Crackdown 2 because that was pretty much the same game. At that point games like Red Dead Redemption had come out and blown people away so of course they moved on. That was 7 years ago.

Crackdown 3 is releasing in a year that has;
- Zelda Breath of the Wild
- Horizon: Zero Dawn
- Ghost Recon: Wildlands
- Agents of Mayhem
- Assassin's Creed: Origins
and a whole bunch of those open world survival games that are massively popular like Battlegrounds.

So yeah good luck releasing a game that looks lifted right from 2007.
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So what was the problem with crackdown 2? Because i thought people complained about it being the same game with new paint? I could be totally wrong, though.
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giantblimpN7 posted...

So what was the problem with crackdown 2? Because i thought people complained about it being the same game with new paint? I could be totally wrong, though.

It was the same game with zombie mutants yeah. It wasn't received well.

Which makes the defense force for Crackdown 3 even more confusing heh.
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